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Originally posted by CTMassive CTMassive wrote:

I think everone's gripe with the BBC is their leftist liberal policies and take on everything on all media, not least of all radio, website as well as TV platfrom. Sky are the ones usually accused of right wing bias. Not having a pop Aber, just an observation

 
As observations go, my advice to you is: "Should have gone to Specsavers"!
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Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

I thought Marr was very pro Labour.

At times, it’s a battle as to who runs the country - Parliament or the media?

You could not be more wrong - he may have been, back in his student days, but by now he has drifted - or rushed - to the right. Just look at two things:

1. The 'balance' on the newspaper review - as I pointed out before, week after week there is a bias to the right. Once in a blue moon someone like Owen Jones is allowed on.

2. The softball questioning of even the most obnoxious right-wing idiots... 

I can't bear to watch it any more - I was a regular until 2-3 years ago.
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Originally posted by aber-fan aber-fan wrote:

Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

I thought Marr was very pro Labour.

At times, it’s a battle as to who runs the country - Parliament or the media?

You could not be more wrong - he may have been, back in his student days, but by now he has drifted - or rushed - to the right. Just look at two things:

1. The 'balance' on the newspaper review - as I pointed out before, week after week there is a bias to the right. Once in a blue moon someone like Owen Jones is allowed on.

2. The softball questioning of even the most obnoxious right-wing idiots... 

I can't bear to watch it any more - I was a regular until 2-3 years ago.

They softball the mega rich every time I agree
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Originally posted by aber-fan aber-fan wrote:

Originally posted by CTMassive CTMassive wrote:

I think everone's gripe with the BBC is their leftist liberal policies and take on everything on all media, not least of all radio, website as well as TV platfrom. Sky are the ones usually accused of right wing bias. Not having a pop Aber, just an observation

 
As observations go, my advice to you is: "Should have gone to Specsavers"!


If you aren't bothered to read, here's their summary
" The BBC should ask itself is it prepared to admit the possibility of the existence of an institutionally left-of-centre bias? ....."

I guess the Centre for Policy Study need to go to SpecSaverts too? TongueLOL
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To be fair aber, I think you're confusing the views(/bias) of the BBC's  political commentators e.g Vine, Soppel etc which of course can be right biased on occassion with their policies on WHO gets the new jobs and WHAT their agendas should be, this is patently clear, as in the report; the two CAN be mutually exclusive.
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Originally posted by CTMassive CTMassive wrote:

I think everone's gripe with the BBC is their leftist liberal policies and take on everything on all media, not least of all radio, website as well as TV platfrom. Sky are the ones usually accused of right wing bias. Not having a pop Aber, just an observation

Half-right here CT but it's not leftist-liberal but neo-liberal, the liberal aspect being in the economy where anything goes in the pursuit of profit and the accumulation of capital which benefits only the 1%. If you thought Blair was left wing then you probably think that the BBC is left wing. But Blair was also Bush's poodle as he tried to reassert the USA's role as dominant world power under the excuse of war on terror. The BBC lapped up Bush and Blair's lies on weapons of mass destruction which cost over a million Iraqi lives and the count is still increasing.  However Trump goes a little too far for the BBC as he's much too crude to cover with a thin veneer of respectability. They'd have much preferred to have that other lying war criminal Hilary Clinton in charge. Ignorant though most of the "despicables" are  they still knew enough to reject her. But what a choice they had - between 2 representatives of the 1%.
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The Centre for Policy Studies (CPS) is a free-market British policy think tank whose goal is to promote coherent and practical public policy, to "roll back the state," reform public services, 
Founders‎: ‎Keith Joseph‎; ‎Margaret Thatcher
Location‎: ‎London‎, United Kingdom
Director‎: ‎Tim Knox

So a totally neutral body there CT?
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More sound than "Specsavers" tho?

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Theres a school of thought that thinks political correctness was the invention of the elite 0.001% controllers of the biggets corporations who wanted easy access open borders to all nations to enable them to push down wages and have the option to move across borders to avoid red tape rules regulations tax and vat. Hence you end up with a firm like Uber who are not regulated are not actually taxi firms, who pay nothing to local government are not criminally checked drivers no need for taxi knowledge either...All invented in silicone valley, get given a dutch name Uber because they are registered in holland to avoid all VAT too...60 billion turnover and no vat lol you couldnt make it up. Then of course the corporations pay politicians like clinton $250,000 a speech? They then use paid politicans as their mouth pieces....to stick to the script which is simply this, anyone who questions the global takeover and open border policy gets labelled a racist and is destroyed. 

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Originally posted by Ffidel Bennett Ffidel Bennett wrote:

CT 

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This one made me laugh:
"“It’s a bit like walking into a Sunday meeting of the Flat Earth Society. As they discuss great issues of the day, they discuss them from the point of view that the earth is flat.
“If someone says, ‘No, no, no, the earth is round!’, they think this person is an extremist. That’s what it’s like for someone with my right-of-centre views working inside the BBC.”

Jeff Randall (ex Business Editor in BBC 2001-05 & Sky 2007-14)

But hey, what does he know Confused Bloody Tory LOL
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Originally posted by CTMassive CTMassive wrote:

This one made me laugh:
"“It’s a bit like walking into a Sunday meeting of the Flat Earth Society. As they discuss great issues of the day, they discuss them from the point of view that the earth is flat.
“If someone says, ‘No, no, no, the earth is round!’, they think this person is an extremist. That’s what it’s like for someone with my right-of-centre views working inside the BBC.”

Jeff Randall (ex Business Editor in BBC 2001-05 & Sky 2007-14)

But hey, what does he know Confused Bloody Tory LOL

bbc is an extremely stupid place but that would be forgivable if they werent producing endless bile
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The BBC forces people like Sky to raise their game.

And trains almost every behind-the-screen (and a lot of in front of screen) talent in the country.

It is about as left-wing as New Labour, at most, and gets a lot of complaints that it ducks up to the right-wing establishment.

You should listen to the News Quiz from last week. The BBC regulars are doing what satire should (scrutinising those in power) just like they did under a Labour government. Meanwhile the Daily Mail journalist toes the Tory party line so hard it hurts.

That’s the standard of journalism an independent BBC protects us from having. Just look abroad and compare.
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Originally posted by CTMassive CTMassive wrote:

Originally posted by aber-fan aber-fan wrote:

Originally posted by CTMassive CTMassive wrote:

I think everone's gripe with the BBC is their leftist liberal policies and take on everything on all media, not least of all radio, website as well as TV platfrom. Sky are the ones usually accused of right wing bias. Not having a pop Aber, just an observation

 
As observations go, my advice to you is: "Should have gone to Specsavers"!


If you aren't bothered to read, here's their summary
" The BBC should ask itself is it prepared to admit the possibility of the existence of an institutionally left-of-centre bias? ....."

I guess the Centre for Policy Study need to go to SpecSaverts too? TongueLOL

So you think the CPS is a non-biased institution, do you?

You should have done your research - you need go no further than Wikipedia:

The Centre for Policy Studies (CPS) is a free-market British policy think tank whose goal is to promote coherent and practical public policy, to "roll back the state," reform public services, support communities, and challenge threats to Britain’s independence.[1] Although identified as non-partisan, the Centre has strong historical links to the Conservative Party.

It was co-founded by Conservatives Sir Keith JosephAlfred Sherman and Margaret Thatcher[2] in 1974 to champion economic liberalism in Britain[1] and has since played a global role in the dissemination of free market economics along monetarist and neoliberal lines. Its policy proposals are claimed to be based on the principles of individual choice and responsibility. It also asserts that it prioritises the concepts of duty, family, liberty, and the rule of law. The CPS states that it has a goal of serving as "the champion of the small state."[1]


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Having the occasional comedian on the News Quiz hardly makes up for the stream of establishment bias broadcast endlessly on so called serious programmes and the News Quiz is one of the few programmes I still make an effort to listen to particularly when I know Jeremy Hardy, Lloyd Langford or Mark Steel are on it.
The most dangerous aspect of BBC coverage is the relentless demonization of Russia and Vladimir Putin, which can only be a prelude to military conflict. When was the last time you heard anything positive about Russia, Syria, Cuba, Venezuela. Iran and recently China ?(as Russia and China became closer to protect themselves from the real danger from the USA and NATO)  
If you like satire  then have a look at James Corbett's 9/11  video  where he examines some of the many contradictions of 9/11, something the any investigative journalist worth his salt would have been looking into in detail. It's less than 5minutes and can be found on -                

https://www.youtube.com/watch ?v=zbsZjW-m0x8
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Originally posted by CTMassive CTMassive wrote:

To be fair aber, I think you're confusing the views(/bias) of the BBC's  political commentators e.g Vine, Soppel etc which of course can be right biased on occassion with their policies on WHO gets the new jobs and WHAT their agendas should be, this is patently clear, as in the report; the two CAN be mutually exclusive.

I'm sure you're right.

The current chair of the BBC Board is: 

Sir David Cecil Clementi (born 25 February 1949) is an English business executive and a former Deputy Governor of the Bank of England. He is currently Chairman of the BBC.

Clementi holds a number of board positions including Chairman of International Payments business World First and Vice Chairman of Investment Manager Ruffer Group. He has held numerous other positions including Chairman of Prudential plc, one of Britain's largest insurance companies, non-executive director on the board of governors of the Rio Tinto Group and until June 2015 was Chairman of Virgin Money, seeing the business through its IPO. In March 2008, he was announced as Warden of Winchester Collegeand was Master of the Mercers Company.


I'm sure you will be able to point out to me how this CV makes Clementi a dyed in the wool leftie.


He was preceded by Rona Fairhead (last chair of the BBC Trust):

Fairhead moved to the Financial Times Group (a subsidiary of Pearson) in 2006 as chief executive.[1][6]She oversaw the sale of several of the group's other titles during her tenure.[4] She has also served as a non-executive director on the boards of several large corporations, including PepsiCo, and is a former Director of HSBC Holdings and former "business ambassador" for UK Trade & Investment.


Clearly, another closet commie.


And so on...








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