Wales Team to face Argentina |
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I agree with GPR that Warburton should be considered as a 6... we need a ball player at 7 if the more expansive version we saw on Saturday is to continue. For the same reason, GPR is also right that Patchell is - or ought to be - Wales's first choice at 10 between now and the RWC. We'll never score many tries with Biggar at 10, and Anscombe has never quite looked the part.
The commentators said about Patch on Saturday that he'd stepped up a lot from the 6N, thanks to the experience he'd gained... he can only get better if Wales go on picking him.
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I think it's easy to underestimate Sam Warburton but when he's playing internationals he is often emmense physically. He was the player we missed most against Ireland in the Six Nations
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It'll be interesting to see what Gatland does now as he has stated that all players will have the opportunity to shine this tour, so will he make changes or stick largely with the same XV with one or 2 changes? For me I would possibly bring in Williams at 9 & bring Jenkins in for Seb Davies. |
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I think he has to (& will) stick with what he said he would do, even where that means making the team weaker (e.g. Anscombe at 10). He doesn't (at least in his mind and I can see why) get many chances to try players out so he has to grasp it. |
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Williams played well v SA... if Gats is picking a team to win, he'll stick with Cawdor for his experience, plus the fact that he plays with Patch all the time... but Williams deserves a chance to show what he can do, so no complaints from me if he starts. Anscombe is different - he's had many opportunities, and has rarely shown much (IMO) - Patch is the 10 who needs more time to develop. I wouldn't drop him. Jenkins for Seb makes sense - with Cubby and Jenkins, Argentina will find it even harder at the breakdown unless they come with a very different game plan.
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Jury heavily out for me on Seb Davies. Certainly has age on his side but with stats of 0 tackles and 0 carries...what was the point of him on the pitch v Argentina? Wales did that to Argentina with 14 men. |
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Am I right in assuming that if last weekends results are repeated, we will move above England in the rankings?
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From what I can see, Seb made 12 tackles not 0. But his other stats weren't great.
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He's also playing 6 which is proving he isnt
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No idea how the sums work, but we're pretty close ... 85.13 to 85.19.
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I'd play Williams at 9, put Jenkins in at 6 and give Seb Davies a game in the second row.
Also would be nice to see ryan get a start in the number 2 jersey |
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Right, from what I can see.... If Wales win by 1-15 points we move onto 85.67 If Wales win by 15+ points we move onto 85.94 If SA win by 1-15 points they will move onto 84.65 & England drop to 84.35 If SA win by 15+ points they will move onto 85.07 & England drop to 83.93
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I agree with this, I'd like to see Ryan start & I would think he will given Gat's comments of giving everyone a chance.
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Think we will see Ryan & Samson start if fit otherwise Francis to start. I would also like to see Seb given a chance in the row with Bradley and Beard on the bench. Ellis at 6 with Cubby at 7. Behind I would like to see Tomos given a start at 9 but I think we may see Aled given his chance to start.
Gatland is in an enviable position that the tour is already a success; hats off to him for giving players their chances and trusting his tour selections and following his tour goals namely to give all a chance. This attitude compares very favourably with Eddie Jones' behaviour. He picks Hill & Isiekwe as back up 2nd rows but plays Shields out of position for 45 minutes in the 1st test. He was saved from picking Shields to start at 2nd row by the return to fitness of Launchbury. What sort of message does this send to Hill & Isiekwe? Eddie's ongoing demeanour and behaviour suggest a man who has lost the plot & I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't make it to Japan.
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Well I really can't see England winning. All the guff about needing to give away less penalties - they did so due to the pressure they were under + I doubt SA will give them such an easy head-start this week. My only fear if I was South African is that at 0-0 the side will play very conservatively like the Boks normally do. The big England lead forced them to attack in the great way they did. As soon as they got a good lead they became more cautious and allowed the momentum to shift back to England. |
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