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aber-fan
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Thanks for your volunteer work on this - the survey was easy to fill in, with clear questions - unlike many I've seen (not speaking rugby here) in the past.
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“You cannot reason a man out of what he never reasoned himself into.” (Jonathan Swift)
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dyniol53
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No worries. (I spend most of my job running surveys at the minute)
Also, I saw recent meeting with JSG & WRU mentioned Attendances will be a focus in future. “There was a detailed discussion in respect of the supporter experience and ticketing. MK said that the research seemed to suggest that the price of season tickets were too low but that the overall price point on match tickets was about right. One of the key requirements for all regions was to drive attendances up. There was agreement from all that regions could and should do better – but under resourced in commercial departments.” |
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dyniol53
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So if anyone reading this hasn't filled out the survey yet - please do!
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LLANDRE
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Yma o hyd is a song about Wales and how the Welsh language has survived despite the tribulations and difficulties over the years.
Edited by LLANDRE - 15 May 2019 at 3:55pm |
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West is Best (Fin gwybod)
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Speedy
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Yes, quite. I dont want mere survival for this rugby club tho. I want progression innovation and domination. Ymlaen.
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Speedy
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Yma O Hyd was only relevant twice to this rugby club once when Robyn Mcbryde chose it when we faced bakrupcy from the Mel Davies saga, and again during the threat of the mergers with Moffet. Other than those two occasions its had little relevance to us.
As a motto, and as a song. Ymlaen was always our motto, and Sospan Fach our anthem. Quite why this weak minded image and thought process replaced the stronger one I really cant tell you.
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Wasp
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I always thought it was more of a "[beep] You" message than anything meek.
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We're still still here, but I wish we were in an Anglo-Welsh
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aber-fan
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Haha! Yes, I think that 'Yma o hyd' is definitely intended as a two-finger salute to our detractors! But Speedy forgets one significant occasion when the song really mattered - when Dafydd Iwan sang it in Stradey, before we stuffed Leicester Tigers thanks to a superb forward effort, and (I think) 18 points from Stevo's boot. I do sort of agree with Speedy, though - obviously, Sospan Fach is, and was, the anthem of Llanelli rugby, and should remain so.
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Speedy
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In context to the motto it replaced it is neutral, happy to be "still here". very low expectations. Rather than striving forward to acheive anything. Celebrating mediocrity. Having "punched above our weight", when each year we get lighter and lighter.
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Speedy
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I dont mind Yma o Hyd being one of our songs. At Welford rd it was sung this season and it really resonated, even Leicester fans around us were in awe of it, despite not knowing its meaning. The point is highlighted perfectly in your recollection of that so called triumph tho.... "when Dafydd Iwan sang it in Stradey, before we stuffed Leicester Tigers thanks to a superb forward effort, and (I think) 18 points from Stevo's boot." Never mind that they went on to win the trophy and we went out tho....can you see my point? Mediocrity held up as some sort of triumph. All those losing semi finals have become some twisted badge of honour, and our post 2003 tacky branding promotes it. Our marketing, branding and ethos really does need a rethink. Dare I say it a refresh.
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Rob o'r Bont
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There's nothing weak minded about 'Yma o Hyd', in fact it's quite the opposite. It is a statement of intent that 'Mi fyddwn yma tan Ddydd y Farn' - 'we will be here until judgement day (no not that one).
It's powerful, drawing on history to show resilience and it is relevant to us every day of the week and twice on game day. |
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LLANDRE
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Yn gwmws Rob . When we sang Yma o hyd before the La Rochelle game it was one of the best moments of my time as a supporter
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Fscarlet
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Agreed, the stadium was well & truly rocking that day!
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GPR - Rochester
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Exactly Rob/Llandre. There is nothing wrong with being a good underdog. Yma o hyd epitomises the fight us ethnic minorities have had throughout history - even if I say that rather tongue in cheek there is nothing which can get a team/supporters more enthused than feeling you are not given the right respect before a contest. I remember a rendition being given on an away trip to Toulon when they were the best team in Europe. We had just scored to get within touching distance and a staunch Toulon fan next to me said we are going to lose this game - he had no idea what the song meant but he was very moved.
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Eastern outpost
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In a world where you can be anything – Be Kind.
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Speedy
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The very attitude that sees us annually as also rans. |
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