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Topic: Parc Trostre Railway Station
Posted By: minded
Subject: Parc Trostre Railway Station
Date Posted: 07 February 2018 at 12:45pm
Something I'd thought about it the past but someone has created a petition to get a Parc Trostre railway station built underneath the Piano Bridge on Lower Trostre Road:-
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I'm sure this would help many people on match days, and maybe the shuttle buses could run only to and from there meaning more buses?


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Posted By: Dai38
Date Posted: 07 February 2018 at 12:50pm
Great idea, but where will the £3-5 million come from to build it and the work on the lines, very doubtful, especially as the main train station is only yards away really.

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Posted By: joni_bach
Date Posted: 07 February 2018 at 1:07pm
Last week, it was announced that Scottish MSPs are being lobbied to trial pop-up stations to test demand. One pop-up station cost £300,000 in Cumbria during the flooding there. I reckon it's worth a trial. 

https://www.scotsman.com/news/transport/pop-up-railway-stations-could-test-passenger-demand-say-greens-1-4681566


Posted By: minded
Date Posted: 07 February 2018 at 2:13pm
Originally posted by Dai38 Dai38 wrote:

Great idea, but where will the £3-5 million come from to build it and the work on the lines, very doubtful, especially as the main train station is only yards away really.
Didn't realise it cost that much to build a new station, probably a non-starter in which case.


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Posted By: SA14
Date Posted: 07 February 2018 at 2:43pm
I reckon you’d save less than 5 minutes drive.


Posted By: minded
Date Posted: 07 February 2018 at 4:59pm
Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

I reckon you’d save less than 5 minutes drive.
What's driving time got to do with train stations? People heading from Carmarthen and beyond may be more inclined not to drive to the game if there was a station in walking distance. 


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Posted By: ladram
Date Posted: 07 February 2018 at 5:20pm
jeez they can't fill in the chuffin pot holes in the roads leave alone create a new railway station for scarlet fans and shopaholics.


Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 07 February 2018 at 7:46pm
It’d be a great idea if the money, at a reasonable cost, and willpower can be found.

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Posted By: roy munster
Date Posted: 07 February 2018 at 7:50pm
Marvellous idea. Im all for it. Keeps traffic and pollution down all of which is good for the environment and local economy. Its the kind of idea what should be trialled throughout the whole world. IF we are actually serious about tackling pollution from cars. I suspect its way too revolutionary and proactive for the tepid toothless dare I say spineless WAG

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Posted By: The Brain
Date Posted: 07 February 2018 at 7:53pm
Great idea but a non-starter really.

You have to ask yourself WHY would Network Rail spend money on something that would have very little benefit to them?

All timetables and calculations to/from the East would need to be changed.

To build platforms, bridges, signals etc. etc. would not only cost a small fortune but would also cause massive long term delays in rail travel as it's not that simple to work adjacent a live line.

And how could anyone justify the expense when most NR money is committed to the electrification programme and one of the main players in rail work went bust a few weeks ago so NR have a backlog of work that can't be completed in the time they'd budgeted for?

It'd be much cheaper and easier to build a proper footpath from the existing station through Penyfan and Parc Trostre to PYS.

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 07 February 2018 at 8:29pm
I’ve thought that was a better spot for the station for a while. It could be made a transport hub with regular buses and a link to the cycle path (loads of people use the trains for cycling trips and Llanelli is a destination with the miles of path around the town). The main argument has to be Trostre. There are strong local economic reasons to locate the station there (a free shuttle service to/from the centre would be nice). Don’t forget the HoW links us to Ammanford, Llandeilo and Llandovery. A shopping trip to Trostre is not such a bad idea with a good rail link. I wonder if other sources of funding could be brought to bear in such a development. I’d love to see more footpaths and cyclepaths around Trostre as part of any development. There are plenty of us who’d rather leave the old metal box at home whenever possible


Posted By: roy munster
Date Posted: 07 February 2018 at 9:46pm
Originally posted by totallybiasedscarlet totallybiasedscarlet wrote:

I’ve thought that was a better spot for the station for a while. It could be made a transport hub with regular buses and a link to the cycle path (loads of people use the trains for cycling trips and Llanelli is a destination with the miles of path around the town). The main argument has to be Trostre. There are strong local economic reasons to locate the station there (a free shuttle service to/from the centre would be nice). Don’t forget the HoW links us to Ammanford, Llandeilo and Llandovery. A shopping trip to Trostre is not such a bad idea with a good rail link. I wonder if other sources of funding could be brought to bear in such a development. I’d love to see more footpaths and cyclepaths around Trostre as part of any development. There are plenty of us who’d rather leave the old metal box at home whenever possible


Theyve failed to develop the walkways , pedestrian bridges etc down Just that 1 road past penclacwydd to morfa has helped a bit....But Trostre as its double/trebled in size. 
I dont have the visitor numbers but Im told its one of the busiest retail parks in Wales. 
Pemberton parc has grown rapidly too , you have the Scarlets sheer number of events and crowds growing, several new Hotels, coffee shop chains, the new Primark employed 190 staff recently, Gate Inn a pretty huge development, nearly all the councils lettings are maxed out, So congestion has worsened considerably. 

On the flipside I stumbled across 1 bit of good news for the town centre in my recent google searches, Llanelli library is the busiest Library in Wales, thats a pretty darn cool statTongue




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Posted By: mammamammon
Date Posted: 07 February 2018 at 9:58pm
Great idea

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 07 February 2018 at 10:17pm
Originally posted by roy munster roy munster wrote:

Originally posted by totallybiasedscarlet totallybiasedscarlet wrote:

I’ve thought that was a better spot for the station for a while. It could be made a transport hub with regular buses and a link to the cycle path (loads of people use the trains for cycling trips and Llanelli is a destination with the miles of path around the town). The main argument has to be Trostre. There are strong local economic reasons to locate the station there (a free shuttle service to/from the centre would be nice). Don’t forget the HoW links us to Ammanford, Llandeilo and Llandovery. A shopping trip to Trostre is not such a bad idea with a good rail link. I wonder if other sources of funding could be brought to bear in such a development. I’d love to see more footpaths and cyclepaths around Trostre as part of any development. There are plenty of us who’d rather leave the old metal box at home whenever possible



Theyve failed to develop the walkways , pedestrian bridges etc down Just that 1 road past penclacwydd to morfa has helped a bit....But Trostre as its double/trebled in size. 
I dont have the visitor numbers but Im told its one of the busiest retail parks in Wales. 
Pemberton parc has grown rapidly too , you have the Scarlets sheer number of events and crowds growing, several new Hotels, coffee shop chains, the new Primark employed 190 staff recently, Gate Inn a pretty huge development, nearly all the councils lettings are maxed out, So congestion has worsened considerably. 

On the flipside I stumbled across 1 bit of good news for the town centre in my recent google searches, Llanelli library is the busiest Library in Wales, thats a pretty darn cool statTongue




True. It’s a classic car centered design. Not that I want to stop cars going there, but surely if those who’d rather walk/cycle/bus/train in can do so, then those who want/need to take the car will have less traffic to contend with and an easier time finding parking spaces. Win win

Yes, nice stat that on the Library. Fair play, it’s a cracking resource and really nice staff too.


Posted By: SA14
Date Posted: 08 February 2018 at 1:18pm
Originally posted by minded minded wrote:

Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

I reckon you’d save less than 5 minutes drive.

What's driving time got to do with train stations? People heading from Carmarthen and beyond may be more inclined not to drive to the game if there was a station in walking distance. 



I very much doubt it. Firstly where’s the money coming from and secondly what’s wrong with the shuttle bus? How many games are there per year to justify spending millions on a train station minutes away from the existing one that they’re spending money on modernising?


Posted By: The Brain
Date Posted: 08 February 2018 at 1:44pm
Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

Originally posted by minded minded wrote:

Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

I reckon you’d save less than 5 minutes drive.

What's driving time got to do with train stations? People heading from Carmarthen and beyond may be more inclined not to drive to the game if there was a station in walking distance. 



I very much doubt it. Firstly where’s the money coming from and secondly what’s wrong with the shuttle bus? How many games are there per year to justify spending millions on a train station minutes away from the existing one that they’re spending money on modernising?
 
Exactly this.
 
How long would it take to walk from the current station along a dedicated footpath skirting alongside the line, ending up in Parc Trostre and then PYS?
 
New station is never going to happen


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Posted By: SA14
Date Posted: 08 February 2018 at 2:30pm
I think easing congestion down Pwll would get more signatures mind.


Posted By: Ffidel Bennett
Date Posted: 08 February 2018 at 4:13pm
Perhaps we could persuade the Senedd to extend it's Metro plans a little further west. I'm sure it would earn the support of our completely unselfish media  who could live in Cardiff and commute seamlessly to Llanelli and Carmarthen. I mean it's only one extra station and 20 miles from Porthcawl and it's near enough to the costal path for tourists and who will also want to see the home of  the Champions@ Cup Holders.
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Posted By: LLANDRE
Date Posted: 10 February 2018 at 7:14pm
Great idea.

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Posted By: Mrfwon
Date Posted: 14 February 2018 at 10:27am
Wouldn't need to be a full blown state of the art station, a platform would suffice.

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Posted By: ladram
Date Posted: 14 February 2018 at 10:59am
Originally posted by Mrfwon Mrfwon wrote:

Wouldn't need to be a full blown state of the art station, a platform would suffice.
and of course GWR would lay on special trains to suit our disjointed kick off times.


Posted By: SA14
Date Posted: 14 February 2018 at 12:13pm
Is this thread still going?


Posted By: Dai38
Date Posted: 14 February 2018 at 12:19pm
Totally agree SA14


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Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 14 February 2018 at 8:21pm
Humbug, SA14 & Dai38 😉

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 14 February 2018 at 9:54pm


Dai38 & SA14 Wink

LOL


Posted By: Dai38
Date Posted: 14 February 2018 at 10:52pm
Have we met ???😠😠😡


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Posted By: SA14
Date Posted: 15 February 2018 at 10:32am
🤪😂seriously though. It’s not even a good idea. It’s a train not a bus. Have you seen how close the stops would be? The cases against far outweigh the cases for.

By the way, would this just be in to Llanelli or out too?


Posted By: minded
Date Posted: 15 February 2018 at 11:21am
Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

🤪😂seriously though. It’s not even a good idea. It’s a train not a bus. Have you seen how close the stops would be? The cases against far outweigh the cases for.

By the way, would this just be in to Llanelli or out too?
The construction costs clearly outweigh the necessity of the idea, i didn't realise how much it costs just to create a basic station when i started the thread so the whole thing is a non-starter. 

I don't see though what the distance has to do with it, it would be 1200m apart, on some of the Cardiff lines there are 3 stops within that distance:  http://imgur.com/c78Y8rU" rel="nofollow - https://imgur.com/c78Y8rU


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Posted By: Speedy
Date Posted: 18 March 2018 at 9:35am
Oh the Irony.


The railway station was part of the original proposals for the move. I remember Stuart and Huw showing them to us.

Along with the pitchside Cafeteria in the east corner. 


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Posted By: roy munster
Date Posted: 18 March 2018 at 3:26pm
I think its a great idea. This is one of the busiest retail parks In the country and its getting bigger. The line goes straight through Trostre to gowerton why not price up how much this would cost. Youd be looking at tens of thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands of visitors every year. It could help reduce traffic massively and pollution and bring more people to the town too. All of which helps businesses galore. Look at the amount of attractions and thousands of jobs down there, Trostre parc, pemberton park, all the industrial units are rented out to the max, Trostre steelworks, scarlets, hotels , pubs, the Gateway holiday park is huge and growing into a theme park. Penclacwydd and Machynys golf nearby, Hotel coming to the golf course too soon etc Theres thousands employed down there....Primark alone has 190 staff. 

Something has to give here, the endless traffic now is absurd ....The massive housing sites at at stradey, dafen, bryn, llwynhendy, llangennech etc The new schools in Stradey and seaside...The umpteen roads that have become one way recently (george st, high street, caersalem terrace, Glanmore road, gilbert cresent, prospect place etc The new lights denham ave, sandy road , gelli onn etc Added to the endless roadworks and last but not least the massive rain experiement going on here for years? The main road by the station (great western crescent has been closed for over a year?)

Trostre has virtually no bus stops and no taxi ranks , which is just mindless and no footbridges anywhere in the town centre or in trostre, this all exacerbates the problem 
The town needs major help. Millions was spent reinforcing trostre railway bridge now we need to get serious about this idea. Theres one hell of a lot more people visiting Trostre than Gowerton or most other places on any train route down west


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Posted By: philtheturk56
Date Posted: 18 March 2018 at 4:10pm
Lets not forget, the council had put a quantity of land for sale as development for the area, adding to what is already there.

land on Trostre roundabout, land by the Landfill, and by the council offices behind KFC are all up for development... ND Stars did have plans to sell there field and relocate behind the tyre company, 

so lots of room for thought here


Posted By: roy munster
Date Posted: 18 March 2018 at 4:27pm
Felinfoel library is for sale...the crown buildings are being demolished (the huge social security building though not sure? Is that for sale?) Theres several council buildings empty and the council are taking up a load of units in eastgate and town centre instead? all of which is hitting the footfall in the town and taking away all the rates theyd get from privately run businesses. All in all a right mess.

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Posted By: solihullscarlet
Date Posted: 13 April 2018 at 11:57am
I think it's a great idea. Ok it might cost a lot in a headline figure but it would employ local people who would pay taxes, it would make the town easily accessible from Trostre and encourage footfall both ways. When you consider the enormous investment that goes into the south East of England and the mini UK tactics of the Welsh government by putting most investment in Cardiff, why shouldn't we invest in the West.

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Posted By: roy munster
Date Posted: 13 April 2018 at 12:20pm
good for traffic, pollution and the environment too

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