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Topic: Scarlets under 23 squad..
Posted By: 157cb
Subject: Scarlets under 23 squad..
Date Posted: 12 July 2018 at 5:26pm

Anyone know the make up of the Scarlets under 23s squad ??



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Posted By: Once a monkey
Date Posted: 13 July 2018 at 8:57am
It will be mostly contracted players and academy bois Mark. It looks like they won't be bringing guys in from the feeder clubs. Did I read somewhere on Twitter from last night's CRYS meeting that there will be a core group of 50 plus the academy feeding both the first team and U23s. The only way to maintain and improve standards, and overcomes the issues faced by regional select teams

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Posted By: turkishrebel
Date Posted: 13 July 2018 at 9:15am
yes OAM, fair dues Chris on twitter said that, lot of good info came from the meeting.

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Posted By: ScarletBear
Date Posted: 13 July 2018 at 4:42pm
Will any info be shared. I know an amount of it is somewhat confidential.

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Posted By: PE SA
Date Posted: 18 July 2018 at 9:29am
any ideas on who the coaches will be for this as if what I read is correct, the tournaments starts in September and ending in October (more games to follow in April).
 
Do we have a coaching structure for it? Will it be Emyr Phillips and Dai Flanagan (is he still with us?)?


Posted By: Fscarlet
Date Posted: 23 August 2018 at 2:51pm
The first round, of the Celtic Cup, kicks off on September 7 but WalesOnline understands that the Scarlets and Cardiff Blues will face each other this weekend to prepare for the competition.

The starting teams, that are a mix of youth and experience, are believed to be as follows...

Cardiff Blues development: Dan Fish; Morgan Griffiths, Cameron Lewis, Harri Millard, Tom James; Ben Jones, Dane Blacker; Rhys Carre, Liam Belcher, Kieron Assirratti, James Down, Callum Bradbury, Cai Devine, Macauley Cook, Alun Lawrence (c).

Scarlets development: Morgan Williams; Tomi Lewis, Corey Baldwin, Ioan Nicholas, Ryan Conbeer; E Davies, Declan Smith; Rhys Fawcett, Taylor Davies, Javan Sebastian, Tom Price, Josh Helps, S Davies, Tom Phillips, Dan Davies.



Posted By: supertaf
Date Posted: 23 August 2018 at 3:42pm
Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

The first round, of the Celtic Cup, kicks off on September 7 but WalesOnline understands that the Scarlets and Cardiff Blues will face each other this weekend to prepare for the competition.

The starting teams, that are a mix of youth and experience, are believed to be as follows...

Cardiff Blues development: Dan Fish; Morgan Griffiths, Cameron Lewis, Harri Millard, Tom James; Ben Jones, Dane Blacker; Rhys Carre, Liam Belcher, Kieron Assirratti, James Down, Callum Bradbury, Cai Devine, Macauley Cook, Alun Lawrence (c).

Scarlets development: Morgan Williams; Tomi Lewis, Corey Baldwin, Ioan Nicholas, Ryan Conbeer; E Davies, Declan Smith; Rhys Fawcett, Taylor Davies, Javan Sebastian, Tom Price, Josh Helps, S Davies, Tom Phillips, Dan Davies.

 
Looks a cracking side.


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Posted By: Mr Ian
Date Posted: 23 August 2018 at 4:08pm
Really good team,nice to see Tom Phillips.
Who is flyhalf Davies?


Posted By: 157cb
Date Posted: 23 August 2018 at 4:31pm
Any ideas on E.Davies and S.Davies ??


Posted By: townboy
Date Posted: 23 August 2018 at 8:15pm
Originally posted by 157cb 157cb wrote:

Any ideas on E.Davies and S.Davies ??


It's Ethan Davies from Cross Keys,what i can gather he's helping out for a few weeks as Angus broke his hand..Think S.Davies shouls be Shaun Evans but not sure,hopr that helps


Posted By: 157cb
Date Posted: 23 August 2018 at 8:29pm

Thanks townboy I thought it was Shaun too


Posted By: Legendinmybathroom
Date Posted: 24 August 2018 at 5:41pm
Great looking squad for the U23’s competition. However I am a little concerned about the state of the premiership and in particular Llanelli RFC in this coming season as this U23’s competition will surely hit the RFC squad badly, alongside call ups to the region during the international period.


Posted By: reesytheexile
Date Posted: 24 August 2018 at 7:02pm
Originally posted by Legendinmybathroom Legendinmybathroom wrote:

Great looking squad for the U23’s competition. However I am a little concerned about the state of the premiership and in particular Llanelli RFC in this coming season as this U23’s competition will surely hit the RFC squad badly, alongside call ups to the region during the international period.


Other Premiership clubs have been spending probably what they cannot afford to try and stave off relegation. Llanelli is owned by the Region and unless the Region sees merit in having a feeder club it controls in Llanelli , then is is obviously going to be a very tough season for the youngsters at the RFC . The team and coaches will do all they can but the backing of the Region is obviously essentiall this season more than ever to ward off some of the challenges of the season. I am optimistic on this support as the idea of no Llanelli is a dreadful prospect.


Posted By: greypower1
Date Posted: 24 August 2018 at 7:02pm
Quite a few over 23's in the Blues squad. Is that allowed? or are we doing the same?

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Posted By: SospanMawr
Date Posted: 24 August 2018 at 7:04pm
Originally posted by greypower1 greypower1 wrote:

Quite a few over 23's in the Blues squad. Is that allowed? or are we doing the same?
They are not u23 teams any more. They’re fully blown A teams now.


Posted By: ScarletBear
Date Posted: 24 August 2018 at 7:47pm
Originally posted by SospanMawr SospanMawr wrote:

Originally posted by greypower1 greypower1 wrote:

Quite a few over 23's in the Blues squad. Is that allowed? or are we doing the same?
They are not u23 teams any more. They’re fully blown A teams now.

Officially?


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Posted By: scarletsbeno1
Date Posted: 25 August 2018 at 4:10pm
Scarlets Winning 29-18 with two mins left


Posted By: PE SA
Date Posted: 25 August 2018 at 4:15pm
24-29 full time to Scarlets A.

Tom Price, captain, had a good game by all acounts.

Any ideas on coaching staff of the A set up?


Posted By: scarletsbeno1
Date Posted: 25 August 2018 at 4:21pm
Think I saw Richard Kelly in a twitter picture with the squad


Posted By: reesytheexile
Date Posted: 25 August 2018 at 4:56pm
Originally posted by PE SA PE SA wrote:

24-29 full time to Scarlets A.

Tom Price, captain, had a good game by all acounts.

Any ideas on coaching staff of the A set up?
Rich Kelly ? Perhaps Aled Thomas? Good to have a win 👍


Posted By: hoppy
Date Posted: 25 August 2018 at 5:55pm
Some familiar faces in the coaching teams

Former Wales scrum-half Richie Rees is heading up a Blues coaching team that includes Wales’ most capped player Gethin Jenkins.

Richard Kelly is in charge of the Scarlets, assisted by Dai Flanagan.


Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 25 August 2018 at 6:52pm
Originally posted by hoppy hoppy wrote:

Some familiar faces in the coaching teams

Former Wales scrum-half Richie Rees is heading up a Blues coaching team that includes Wales’ most capped player Gethin Jenkins.

Richard Kelly is in charge of the Scarlets, assisted by Dai Flanagan.

Thanks Hoppy.

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Posted By: LLANDRE
Date Posted: 25 August 2018 at 6:57pm
This game was poorly advertised.

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Posted By: reesytheexile
Date Posted: 25 August 2018 at 8:39pm
Originally posted by LLANDRE LLANDRE wrote:

This game was poorly advertised.

Agreed Probably short notice job. Seems a better job than the big boys with a nice W 👍


Posted By: PE SA
Date Posted: 26 August 2018 at 12:40pm
Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:

Originally posted by PE SA PE SA wrote:

24-29 full time to Scarlets A.

Tom Price, captain, had a good game by all acounts.

Any ideas on coaching staff of the A set up?
Rich Kelly ? Perhaps Aled Thomas? Good to have a win 👍
cheers.

Thought Rich Kelly was now helping out here and there coaching wise thought I read when Emyr took over the reins at Quins? Emyr Phillips involved at all?


Posted By: PE SA
Date Posted: 26 August 2018 at 12:40pm
Originally posted by hoppy hoppy wrote:

Some familiar faces in the coaching teams

Former Wales scrum-half Richie Rees is heading up a Blues coaching team that includes Wales’ most capped player Gethin Jenkins.

Richard Kelly is in charge of the Scarlets, assisted by Dai Flanagan.

Diolch


Posted By: PE SA
Date Posted: 26 August 2018 at 12:41pm
Scarlets A take on Ospreys A in Bridgend Sept 7.


Posted By: 157cb
Date Posted: 26 August 2018 at 12:57pm
Originally posted by PE SA PE SA wrote:

Scarlets A take on Ospreys A in Bridgend Sept 7.

  I will head up for that game .


Posted By: ScarletBear
Date Posted: 26 August 2018 at 1:44pm
Originally posted by 157cb 157cb wrote:

Originally posted by PE SA PE SA wrote:

Scarlets A take on Ospreys A in Bridgend Sept 7.


  I 9will head up for that game .


So it's officially A teams and not U23 teams now?

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Posted By: scarletnut
Date Posted: 26 August 2018 at 1:57pm
Originally posted by ScarletBear ScarletBear wrote:

Originally posted by 157cb 157cb wrote:

Originally posted by PE SA PE SA wrote:

Scarlets A take on Ospreys A in Bridgend Sept 7.


  I 9will head up for that game .


So it's officially A teams and not U23 teams now?
Yes

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Posted By: Wasp
Date Posted: 26 August 2018 at 2:37pm
Originally posted by scarletnut scarletnut wrote:

Originally posted by ScarletBear ScarletBear wrote:

Originally posted by 157cb 157cb wrote:

Originally posted by PE SA PE SA wrote:

Scarlets A take on Ospreys A in Bridgend Sept 7.


  I 9will head up for that game .


So it's officially A teams and not U23 teams now?
Yes
Unless you're Geraint John, who calls them "Development sides"


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Posted By: kcreg
Date Posted: 26 August 2018 at 4:53pm
such a shame,that fans are being charged to watch the u23's. nobody will be turning up to watch these games,unfortunately.

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Posted By: LLANDRE
Date Posted: 26 August 2018 at 9:46pm
I disagree Martin

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Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 27 August 2018 at 8:51am
Originally posted by kcreg kcreg wrote:

such a shame,that fans are being charged to watch the u23's. nobody will be turning up to watch these games,unfortunately.

Why shouldn't you be charged? You pay to watch the under 20's.


Posted By: 157cb
Date Posted: 27 August 2018 at 8:52am

Why is it as fans some of people except to watch games for free,our season tickets are a bargain as it is roll on Ospreys away .

The Scarlets age grade games are all to pay and are great vaue .


Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 27 August 2018 at 9:15am
I think it's because some or all of the other regions are offering the 'A' games as free entry right?


Posted By: Speedy
Date Posted: 27 August 2018 at 10:32am
Originally posted by 157cb 157cb wrote:


Why is it as fans some of people except to watch games for free,our season tickets are a bargain as it is roll on Ospreys away .

The Scarlets age grade games are all to pay and are great vaue .

They are not age grade tho, they are A games. Which really speaking should be available to season ticket holders.


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Posted By: salmidach
Date Posted: 27 August 2018 at 11:31am
The A games should be free IMO to season ticket holders.

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Posted By: Dai38
Date Posted: 27 August 2018 at 12:46pm
Following other sports such as cricket & soccer, (but not all of them I must admit) 2nd team games are normally free.

I see no harm in them being free, someone will need to, prepare cash floats, count & bank the money, pay extra for the people on the gate, (more responsibility) and probably the cost will be nearly as much as the anticipated profit from these games.

So on a cost value analysis I would back free games.




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Posted By: reesytheexile
Date Posted: 27 August 2018 at 1:29pm
Some of the significant costs of running a stadium complex are the security overheads and personally I see no reason not to charge something  modest to watch A rugby with free admission to children. 


Posted By: Speedy
Date Posted: 27 August 2018 at 4:30pm
Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:

Some of the significant costs of running a stadium complex are the security overheads and personally I see no reason not to charge something  modest to watch A rugby with free admission to children. 
Its a drop off tho, charging will significantly reduce the gate, where as st holders would come in greater numbers and spend more at the ground, probably making more than charging a fee to a much smaller crowd.

I think they should test the water and see if good numbers attend either way and review it maybe.


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Posted By: CRYS16
Date Posted: 27 August 2018 at 4:44pm
Originally posted by Speedy Speedy wrote:

Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:

Some of the significant costs of running a stadium complex are the security overheads and personally I see no reason not to charge something  modest to watch A rugby with free admission to children. 
Its a drop off tho, charging will significantly reduce the gate, where as st holders would come in greater numbers and spend more at the ground, probably making more than charging a fee to a much smaller crowd.

I think they should test the water and see if good numbers attend either way and review it maybe.

Thanks for the suggestion. CRYS16 are meeting with the Scarlets in a few weeks and we will add this to the agenda. 


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Posted By: ScarletBear
Date Posted: 27 August 2018 at 6:16pm
Originally posted by CRYS16 CRYS16 wrote:

Originally posted by Speedy Speedy wrote:

Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:

Some of the significant costs of running a stadium complex are the security overheads and personally I see no reason not to charge something  modest to watch A rugby with free admission to children. 
Its a drop off tho, charging will significantly reduce the gate, where as st holders would come in greater numbers and spend more at the ground, probably making more than charging a fee to a much smaller crowd.

I think they should test the water and see if good numbers attend either way and review it maybe.

Thanks for the suggestion. CRYS16 are meeting with the Scarlets in a few weeks and we will add this to the agenda. 

To reduce costs on security/admin etc., can they just open one stand? I would epxect a good gate to be in the hundreds, no?


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Posted By: randelan
Date Posted: 28 August 2018 at 8:58am
I think we should pay.

SATURDAY was free for some reason and crowd was crap.


Posted By: salmidach
Date Posted: 28 August 2018 at 9:09am
with the loss of the LV cup and 3 fixtures for the season ticket, then surely these could be replaced by the A games?

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Posted By: supertaf
Date Posted: 28 August 2018 at 9:09am
The trouble started when ST holders got free entry to RFC games. Then they started charging (£5 for ST holders) and people rebelled. Frankly it should never have been part of the ST or maybe to Premier and above only for example? Does the A league in England charge out of interest? They get some pretty good crowds as people realise that basically they are watching the guys that play for the firsts occasionally not just some unknowns. Here to be shot down but as a region, we have always had issues following anything but the `firsts` for some reason. Many don't even do to the AW games. Cant quite get my head around that, it's the Scarlet dragon on the shirt so what difference does it make? Always makes me chuckle at games when I hear people asking 'who's that on the wing? Who's the boy playing 7?' etc as they take no interest in the clubs, academy, colleges. Not sure what the region can do to change that.

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Posted By: PE SA
Date Posted: 28 August 2018 at 12:07pm
Originally posted by CRYS16 CRYS16 wrote:

Originally posted by Speedy Speedy wrote:

Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:

Some of the significant costs of running a stadium complex are the security overheads and personally I see no reason not to charge something  modest to watch A rugby with free admission to children. 
Its a drop off tho, charging will significantly reduce the gate, where as st holders would come in greater numbers and spend more at the ground, probably making more than charging a fee to a much smaller crowd.

I think they should test the water and see if good numbers attend either way and review it maybe.

Thanks for the suggestion. CRYS16 are meeting with the Scarlets in a few weeks and we will add this to the agenda. 

Would it?
Wasnt the case when the semi pros was free to ST holders. Even when they had a decent side playing good stuff too. Few hundred maximum would turn up. Dont think theres been a significant drop.

How much are they looking to charge?

Plus the home A fixtures now will be shared amongs PYS, Llandovery and Carmarthen. A way for Llandovery and Carmarthen to attempt to get in a crowd and cash in. I think theres only 1 maybe 2 fixtures for A team announced for PYS.


Posted By: ScarletBear
Date Posted: 28 August 2018 at 2:37pm
Originally posted by supertaf supertaf wrote:

The trouble started when ST holders got free entry to RFC games. Then they started charging (£5 for ST holders) and people rebelled. Frankly it should never have been part of the ST or maybe to Premier and above only for example? Does the A league in England charge out of interest? They get some pretty good crowds as people realise that basically they are watching the guys that play for the firsts occasionally not just some unknowns. Here to be shot down but as a region, we have always had issues following anything but the `firsts` for some reason. Many don't even do to the AW games. Cant quite get my head around that, it's the Scarlet dragon on the shirt so what difference does it make? Always makes me chuckle at games when I hear people asking 'who's that on the wing? Who's the boy playing 7?' etc as they take no interest in the clubs, academy, colleges. Not sure what the region can do to change that.

But to be fair, people have every right to follow the Scarets how they want. Not everyone is into rugby that much. Those that are may have limited time - long commute, hard hours, 3 kids, little spare money, another hobby as well, so their time can only focus on the main squad. Generally though, I don't think the people of Llanelli know how lucky they are to have the Scarlets. A top class team in a town of 50,000 people. But when you see the crowd number per population, they match up pretty well to other places.


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Posted By: Rich (Bris)
Date Posted: 28 August 2018 at 3:50pm
Yes many clubs don't charge for A team matches BUT (a) that is clear to their supporters at the time STs are bought and (b) many/most/all of those clubs are charging a lot more for their STs than we are and in all cases the entertainment won't be as good!

No way should A games be free for our ST holders in my opinion. But A team admission prices should be low OR next season when you buy your ST there should be an option to pay a little bit more and also have free entry to all A team matches


Posted By: supertaf
Date Posted: 29 August 2018 at 9:52am
Originally posted by ScarletBear ScarletBear wrote:

Originally posted by supertaf supertaf wrote:

The trouble started when ST holders got free entry to RFC games. Then they started charging (£5 for ST holders) and people rebelled. Frankly it should never have been part of the ST or maybe to Premier and above only for example? Does the A league in England charge out of interest? They get some pretty good crowds as people realise that basically they are watching the guys that play for the firsts occasionally not just some unknowns. Here to be shot down but as a region, we have always had issues following anything but the `firsts` for some reason. Many don't even do to the AW games. Cant quite get my head around that, it's the Scarlet dragon on the shirt so what difference does it make? Always makes me chuckle at games when I hear people asking 'who's that on the wing? Who's the boy playing 7?' etc as they take no interest in the clubs, academy, colleges. Not sure what the region can do to change that.

But to be fair, people have every right to follow the Scarets how they want. Not everyone is into rugby that much. Those that are may have limited time - long commute, hard hours, 3 kids, little spare money, another hobby as well, so their time can only focus on the main squad. Generally though, I don't think the people of Llanelli know how lucky they are to have the Scarlets. A top class team in a town of 50,000 people. But when you see the crowd number per population, they match up pretty well to other places.
Oh totally agree with all that and I can subscribe to a few of those (4 hour commute for example). It's a shame that the crowds are poor as these are top class players many of whom we see week in week out playing for the firsts. Good entertaining rugby and it opens the door to the next big thing.


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Posted By: Sosban bach
Date Posted: 29 August 2018 at 10:01am
No more aw so needn't worry about that anymore. Tbf those games have produced some hugely mismatched teams to the point where you know how the score will end. I can't blame people for not turning up if it meant a 4 hour commute for a hammering. Although one home game produced a great second half come back against bath which was really refreshing and not that long ago!



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