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Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

let's be honest he isn't good enough or rather he isn't playing well enough at the moment to get on the bench let alone start
 
he must be on over £100k a year and we can't sustain 4th choice players on that wage let alone taking up an nwq slot
 
I did say at the start of the season hardy would jump above him in the pecking order
 
west wales produces loads of good 9's most of the imports we have brought in to that position have flopped, a lesson we should learn
remember the little fat one?ricky tipuna?Confused
 
stuart smith was a shocker to  was cattle welsh?
 
all 3 were dross tbh
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Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

let's be honest he isn't good enough or rather he isn't playing well enough at the moment to get on the bench let alone start
 
he must be on over £100k a year and we can't sustain 4th choice players on that wage let alone taking up an nwq slot
 
I did say at the start of the season hardy would jump above him in the pecking order
 
west wales produces loads of good 9's most of the imports we have brought in to that position have flopped, a lesson we should learn
remember the little fat one?ricky tipuna?Confused
 

Tipuna was a New Zealand 7's and Moari's international and went on to represent Bristol and Newcastle over 100 times in the Aviva after leaving us.
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Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

let's be honest he isn't good enough or rather he isn't playing well enough at the moment to get on the bench let alone start
 
he must be on over £100k a year and we can't sustain 4th choice players on that wage let alone taking up an nwq slot
 
I did say at the start of the season hardy would jump above him in the pecking order
 
west wales produces loads of good 9's most of the imports we have brought in to that position have flopped, a lesson we should learn

Really? I don't know the average salary of Welsh rugby players but sounds like poor business if true.
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Originally posted by diego6754 diego6754 wrote:

Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

let's be honest he isn't good enough or rather he isn't playing well enough at the moment to get on the bench let alone start
 
he must be on over £100k a year and we can't sustain 4th choice players on that wage let alone taking up an nwq slot
 
I did say at the start of the season hardy would jump above him in the pecking order
 
west wales produces loads of good 9's most of the imports we have brought in to that position have flopped, a lesson we should learn
remember the little fat one?ricky tipuna?Confused
 

Tipuna was a New Zealand 7's and Moari's international and went on to represent Bristol and Newcastle over 100 times in the Aviva after leaving us.
 
 
regardless he was dross when he us with us so was maling and he was a full all black cap
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Originally posted by dr_martinov dr_martinov wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

let's be honest he isn't good enough or rather he isn't playing well enough at the moment to get on the bench let alone start
 
he must be on over £100k a year and we can't sustain 4th choice players on that wage let alone taking up an nwq slot
 
I did say at the start of the season hardy would jump above him in the pecking order
 
west wales produces loads of good 9's most of the imports we have brought in to that position have flopped, a lesson we should learn

Really? I don't know the average salary of Welsh rugby players but sounds like poor business if true.
 
multi cap Scottish test player , your looking at that mark I'd guess
 
 
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Originally posted by diego6754 diego6754 wrote:

Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

let's be honest he isn't good enough or rather he isn't playing well enough at the moment to get on the bench let alone start
 
he must be on over £100k a year and we can't sustain 4th choice players on that wage let alone taking up an nwq slot
 
I did say at the start of the season hardy would jump above him in the pecking order
 
west wales produces loads of good 9's most of the imports we have brought in to that position have flopped, a lesson we should learn
remember the little fat one?ricky tipuna?Confused
 

Tipuna was a New Zealand 7's and Moari's international and went on to represent Bristol and Newcastle over 100 times in the Aviva after leaving us.
doesn't mean to say he wasn't rubbish for us,
30th june 1986- 30th june 2011.25 years roofing,i wouldn't call that dodgy.
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Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

Originally posted by diego6754 diego6754 wrote:

Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

let's be honest he isn't good enough or rather he isn't playing well enough at the moment to get on the bench let alone start
 
he must be on over £100k a year and we can't sustain 4th choice players on that wage let alone taking up an nwq slot
 
I did say at the start of the season hardy would jump above him in the pecking order
 
west wales produces loads of good 9's most of the imports we have brought in to that position have flopped, a lesson we should learn
remember the little fat one?ricky tipuna?Confused
 

Tipuna was a New Zealand 7's and Moari's international and went on to represent Bristol and Newcastle over 100 times in the Aviva after leaving us.
doesn't mean to say he wasn't rubbish for us,
 

Was not trying to say that at all. I was just providing a point of interest.
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He wasn’t in the best of shape when he came to us. Went on to find form and fitness.
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So we only have Cawdor and Hardy then as Jon Evans is out for rest of season isn't he? Bit of a risk?
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This is the post I posted on the Tom Price heading.

One point on loan players, normally a clause in the loan agreement that if the parent club (Scarlets) have an emergency then they can recall the player, so I assume that we are covered.
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Ive noticed a trend that players who play 9 as one of their positions dont tend to be top 9s. Of course there are exceptions. But like hooker and tight head, its a specialist position. I think SHC has suffered from being used across the backline in his career.
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Think he is pundit for sky on Scotland u20s v England u20s game
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Originally posted by Speedy Speedy wrote:

Ive noticed a trend that players who play 9 as one of their positions dont tend to be top 9s. Of course there are exceptions. But like hooker and tight head, its a specialist position. I think SHC has suffered from being used across the backline in his career.

Flanker Mike Phillips did alright at it. Wink And we played him at 12 occasionally as well.

You're right though it's specialist. The french did have a few players able to alternate between 9 and 10, e.g. Michalak, but generally very rare they're top level at 9.
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Originally posted by supertaf supertaf wrote:

So we only have Cawdor and Hardy then as Jon Evans is out for rest of season isn't he? Bit of a risk?
and Declan Smith.
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Originally posted by dr_martinov dr_martinov wrote:

Originally posted by Speedy Speedy wrote:

Ive noticed a trend that players who play 9 as one of their positions dont tend to be top 9s. Of course there are exceptions. But like hooker and tight head, its a specialist position. I think SHC has suffered from being used across the backline in his career.

Flanker Mike Phillips did alright at it. Wink And we played him at 12 occasionally as well.

You're right though it's specialist. The french did have a few players able to alternate between 9 and 10, e.g. Michalak, but generally very rare they're top level at 9.

Like i said there are exceptioons but by the time a 9 is pro, if he wants to make it at the top end he really needs to be serious about the position. 
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Originally posted by PE SA PE SA wrote:

Originally posted by supertaf supertaf wrote:

So we only have Cawdor and Hardy then as Jon Evans is out for rest of season isn't he? Bit of a risk?
and Declan Smith.

I thought Jonny Evs had just recovered? Is he out again?
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