Some Statistical Analysis on Attendance |
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roy munster
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Wonder if the lack of bbc promotion coverage is affecting us? ironic as iIalways thought making it harder to access on freeview would force the fans down the parc
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I'm not sure, but was always of the opinion that Sky's OTT promotion of any sport it showed - including rugby - had a positive effect on crowds. Don't forget that Murdoch owns the Sun and Times titles as well, so those papers would always be bigging up Sky TV, no matter how good, bad or indifferent the product was. (Pretty distasteful and dishonest, but as far as crowds were concerned, I think it helped to build attendances in England at least.) I can also say that I have far less interest in sports which aren't shown free to air than I used to - such as cricket and golf. I'm not so interested in those that I'd be willing to pay. Others, no doubt, feel like that about rugby.
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Im pretty sure the removal from free-to-air TV has no effect on stadium attendances in the short term - but does seem have an impact on the sport in the Long term in terms of general public interest. (cricket and golf are prime examples above).
The point about Murdoch’s empire is a good one - I used to work on Sky Sports’ advertising and our whole media plan always included cross overs with the press, talk sport and Sky’s free-to-air channels which help with awareness. |
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dyniol53
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Updating to include the Racing game - which was played during the storm so we might be able to understand the appx 1.5k drop below expected. (Attendance from EPC website)
ECC - Opposition - Attendance - Last Year - Difference 13th Oct 2018 - Racing 92 - 8,064 - 11,479 (Bath) - -3,415 7th Dec 2018 - Ulster - - - 12th Jan 2019 - Leicester - - - |
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Crowds have been a little disappointing this year , I wonder if , as previously commented in this topic that the lack of coverage on the BBC has resulted in less awareness from the public generally and any resultant floating supporters who may have come along having watched games , but still disappointing after our performances over the last few years.
The Bath attendance was possibly surprisingly high last year which may have provided an artificially high figure to compare the Racing attendance to , plus there were probably many more visiting fans from Bath than from Racing and as mentioned above the storm's probably prevented many from attending. Hopefully attendances will pick up again as the season progresses. |
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There wont be many there for the Ulster league game on 23rd nov as that's the same day as the llanelli xmas carnival, last time we played a game the same day as the xmas carnival I think we were lucky to get 3k there although actual figure was announced as 6k I think that day, cant see why one or the other cant be changed , cant scarlets ask to play on the Sunday instead as the Sat wales play SA, or cant the carnival be the week before or week after |
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52,000 sold for the QF at the Aviva in the ECC, out of curiosity I thought I'd look at how our attendances fared on last years campaign, thinking about what revenue we might miss out on if we don't manage qualification! 13th Oct 2018 - Racing 92 - 8,064 - 11,479 (Bath) - -3,415 7th Dec 2018 - Ulster - 7,421 - 6,856 (BEN) - +565 12th Jan 2019 - Leicester - 8,087 - 14,476 (TLN) - -6,389 QF 30th Mar 2019 - N/A - 0 - 15,373 (La R) - -15,373
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Pro14 - Opposition - Attendance - Last Year - Difference
8th Sept 2018 - Leinster - 7,258 - 9,108 - -1,850 15th Sept 2018 - Benneton - 7,180 - 8,007 - -827 29th Sept 2018 - Southern K. - 7,529 - 9,108 - -1,849 6th Oct 2018 - Ospreys - 12,012 - 14,509 - -2,497 23rd Nov 2018 - Ulster - 7,788 - 6,941 - +847 29th Dec 2018 - Cardiff Blues - 10,622 - 9,003 - +1,619 5th Jan 2019 - Dragons - 8,167 - 9,347 - -1,180 24th Feb 2019 - Cheetahs - 7,200 - 7,105 (QF) - +95 2nd Mar 2019 - Munster - 8,032 - 7,693 (Con) - +339 5th Apr 2019 - Edinburgh - - 8,088 - 12th Apr 2019 - Zebre - - -
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down approx 5k
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dyniol53
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Not as bad as you might have thought, only a decline of 590 per game & considering we were champions the year previous.
If we can better last year's Edinburgh attendance that'd be good, such a crucial game.
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M.M.
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We sold over 5,000 season tickets last season. We need to retain as much of those as is possible.
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8500 average is it?
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Yes, 8,420
Last year P14 was was 8,890
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Not too bad considering results
IF we go for a judgement day 2 this would be probably over 10,000 and an extra £150,000 thats the annual salary for a tidy player made in one afternoon |
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Hang on though, this is where stats tell the tale that the writer wants. The reason why the Ospreys game was less was the KO day/time. It's not comparable and that may also apply to other games. Cant argue crowds are down but sometimes its for a good reason sadly.
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The model at the start of the thread equates roughly a 25% decrease in win percentage with a loss of 550 fans per game so that seems to make sense.
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