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Heard from a good source that 15 of the 20 players out of contract are in the process of signing
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So 5 not?? Sorry joss only kidding.if it is then that's great. Assume Tadgh is one...who are the others?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ScarletBear Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 October 2017 at 7:21pm
Originally posted by joss joss wrote:

Heard from a good source that 15 of the 20 players out of contract are in the process of signing

Hope you are right and that 2 of the 5 not signing are Tadgh and Aled. Cubby Boi would be very close to the top of the list in my 15, as would his brother, Scotty and Rob Evs. I was interested to hear Pivac say that the quality of players interested in signing with the Scarlets has gone up from last year. Interesting and very exciting times.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote PE SA Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 October 2017 at 7:26pm
Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

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I don't see Wayne renewing. Unless he has whispers of Welsh coach job.
He stated himself that he believes a coachs lifespan at a side is 3-5yrs. After that the players can become stale with coaches (see Wales), and coaches can easily get into a habit of picking same players etc (see Wales).




You think last season and this season the players look like they’re starting to lose interest in him?

Not at all, but Gatland has been at Wales for well over 5yrs and things have been stale for a while.

Pivac himself stated 3-5yrs is what he believed a life span for a coach is.
It keeps the coach fresh and it keeps the squad fresh. I personally don't see him going back on what he believes in. I think he's very much a coach who has a project, sees the project through, and then moves on to the next project. I could be completely wrong mind.
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Originally posted by PE SA PE SA wrote:

Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

Originally posted by PE SA PE SA wrote:

I don't see Wayne renewing. Unless he has whispers of Welsh coach job.
He stated himself that he believes a coachs lifespan at a side is 3-5yrs. After that the players can become stale with coaches (see Wales), and coaches can easily get into a habit of picking same players etc (see Wales).




You think last season and this season the players look like they’re starting to lose interest in him?

Not at all, but Gatland has been at Wales for well over 5yrs and things have been stale for a while.

Pivac himself stated 3-5yrs is what he believed a life span for a coach is.
It keeps the coach fresh and it keeps the squad fresh. I personally don't see him going back on what he believes in. I think he's very much a coach who has a project, sees the project through, and then moves on to the next project. I could be completely wrong mind.
5 years then please.
First phase: Build a team that can win the domestic league (3 yrs)
Second phase. Consolidate and improve into a team that regularly makes the KO stages of Europe. (2yrs)
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Another 2 years for Pivac would seem like a good fit, at that point we'll see how far along Stevo, Byron and Cunningham have come and I can't imagine things going stale in years 4 & 5.
The Welsh set up is a completely different thing, I think all the coaches have been there for between 8 and 10 years with nothing changing.
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Originally posted by scarletnut scarletnut wrote:

Originally posted by tannerbankboy tannerbankboy wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Precisely. I couldn't tell Ffidel all 20 but they include : Tadgh, 3  scrum halves, Scott I believe, NDC boys Foxy, Samson & Jake, Barclay, Rob Evans & Cubby. 

I though Samson signed a 5 year deal 
 
 
Samson isn't out of contract
 
 
I thought Rob Evans signed a new contract last year as well?
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Originally posted by Gate12 Gate12 wrote:

Another 2 years for Pivac would seem like a good fit, at that point we'll see how far along Stevo, Byron and Cunningham have come and I can't imagine things going stale in years 4 & 5.
The Welsh set up is a completely different thing, I think all the coaches have been there for between 8 and 10 years with nothing changing.

Gats started in 2008 and inherited others....gameplan has not changed in that time..
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote PE SA Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 October 2017 at 3:10pm
Originally posted by Wasp Wasp wrote:

Originally posted by PE SA PE SA wrote:

Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

Originally posted by PE SA PE SA wrote:

I don't see Wayne renewing. Unless he has whispers of Welsh coach job.
He stated himself that he believes a coachs lifespan at a side is 3-5yrs. After that the players can become stale with coaches (see Wales), and coaches can easily get into a habit of picking same players etc (see Wales).




You think last season and this season the players look like they’re starting to lose interest in him?

Not at all, but Gatland has been at Wales for well over 5yrs and things have been stale for a while.

Pivac himself stated 3-5yrs is what he believed a life span for a coach is.
It keeps the coach fresh and it keeps the squad fresh. I personally don't see him going back on what he believes in. I think he's very much a coach who has a project, sees the project through, and then moves on to the next project. I could be completely wrong mind.
5 years then please.
First phase: Build a team that can win the domestic league (3 yrs)
Second phase. Consolidate and improve into a team that regularly makes the KO stages of Europe. (2yrs)
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Originally posted by theieuan theieuan wrote:

Originally posted by scarletnut scarletnut wrote:

Originally posted by tannerbankboy tannerbankboy wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Precisely. I couldn't tell Ffidel all 20 but they include : Tadgh, 3  scrum halves, Scott I believe, NDC boys Foxy, Samson & Jake, Barclay, Rob Evans & Cubby. 

I though Samson signed a 5 year deal 
 
 
Samson isn't out of contract
 
 
I thought Rob Evans signed a new contract last year as well?
Yes Rob is also in contract for next season
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The Scarlets will attract both Welsh and Non Welsh players based on:
1) team success
2) the style of play, 
3) the creative coaching team, and 
4) the excellent facilities at PYS.

We need QF at a minimum this year in the ECC  which should provide the additional cash for 2-3 players.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Wasp Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 October 2017 at 11:10am
Originally posted by Dafen Boy Dafen Boy wrote:

The Scarlets will attract both Welsh and Non Welsh players based on:
1) team success
2) the style of play, 
3) the creative coaching team, and 
4) the excellent facilities at PYS.

We need QF at a minimum this year in the ECC  which should provide the additional cash for 2-3 players.

A home KO in the P14 would be worth £200k or more. I think I read that with prize money a home QF in Europe could be worth double that .
It’s not unthinkable
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote totallybiasedscarlet Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 October 2017 at 11:55am
Originally posted by Wasp Wasp wrote:

Originally posted by Dafen Boy Dafen Boy wrote:

The Scarlets will attract both Welsh and Non Welsh players based on:
1) team success
2) the style of play, 
3) the creative coaching team, and 
4) the excellent facilities at PYS.

We need QF at a minimum this year in the ECC  which should provide the additional cash for 2-3 players.

A home KO in the P14 would be worth £200k or more. I think I read that with prize money a home QF in Europe could be worth double that .
It’s not unthinkable


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote scarletnut Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 October 2017 at 2:43pm
Originally posted by Wasp Wasp wrote:

Originally posted by Dafen Boy Dafen Boy wrote:

The Scarlets will attract both Welsh and Non Welsh players based on:
1) team success
2) the style of play, 
3) the creative coaching team, and 
4) the excellent facilities at PYS.

We need QF at a minimum this year in the ECC  which should provide the additional cash for 2-3 players.

A home KO in the P14 would be worth £200k or more. I think I read that with prize money a home QF in Europe could be worth double that .
It’s not unthinkable
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