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    Posted: 16 April 2017 at 12:09pm
AJW is currently injured, but on JD was a water carrier for the O's. Nothing wrong with that. He may very well have been carrying messages on from the coaching team, and again there's nothing wrong with that.

However at HT as the players and officials walked off the pitch he appeared to communicate with the referee. Navidi, and then Nick Williams, who I have little time for after the Shingler and Patchell incidents, also got very irate. I'm with NW on this one. 

There was a some pushing and shoving but so far it appears that nothing has come of it. I was quite angry at AWJ's attempt to talk to the referee. I've no idea what he said but by the reactions of the Blues players it appears that he was trying to influence the referee. 

I think that a censure and a warning as to his future conduct should be issued in this regard. He was taking no part in the match and should have kept his mouth shut. We have witnessed Biggar's antics and poor attitude towards referees and AR's many times, the latest of which was in the Stade game.

What do others think on this one ?


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Nothing in it at all. Navidi grabs AWJ, AWJ pushes him off and then Williams needlessly pushes AWJ.
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Who is AR?
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Originally posted by najbritcol najbritcol wrote:

Who is AR?


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Maybe AWJ did step over the line, but I do feel for him, watching his beloved team suffer like that and be powerless to stop it. Unlike far too many other major Welsh players, he has remained loyal to the team that nurtured him when he could easily be earning two or three times as much with e.g. Saracens or Toulon, and he has believed in the Ospreys cause even with its decline in recent years, and up to the 6N it was doing so well.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Gate12 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 April 2017 at 1:32pm
Originally posted by PritchyTheScarlet PritchyTheScarlet wrote:

Nothing in it at all. Navidi grabs AWJ, AWJ pushes him off and then Williams needlessly pushes AWJ.


The issue is awj talking to the ref, the ref had to warn him in the first half about talking to him when he was on with the bottles, he then continued it at half time going up the tunnel.

It's unacceptable, much like biggar following the ref around for about 10 minutes after the game the last time they were at the principality stadium.
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Originally posted by najbritcol najbritcol wrote:

Maybe AWJ did step over the line, but I do feel for him, watching his beloved team suffer like that and be powerless to stop it. Unlike far too many other major Welsh players, he has remained loyal to the team that nurtured him when he could easily be earning two or three times as much with e.g. Saracens or Toulon, and he has believed in the Ospreys cause even with its decline in recent years, and up to the 6N it was doing so well.


His standing and reputation is irrelevant, he was a waterboy yesterday and nothing more.
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Sorry but it's shocking behaviour. If he was just a member of the O's match day team it would look bad enough, very "football behaviour", but to have that from the Welsh Captain was embarrassing to watch.
He's supposed to be an example to youngsters, not following the ref around to forcefully influence him then nearly fighting with the other team.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Eastern outpost Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 April 2017 at 1:54pm
100% out of order for any water boy to do that, even more so after being warned.

Don't care who it is or whether they're a bad patient when injured.

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If Nigel had been reffing that match he would have reversed the score and given the whole blues pack red cards as soon as approached by Alun Wyn, such is his love/respect for the great man.
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AWJ didn't come out of that well, surprised me.

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Originally posted by SospanMawr SospanMawr wrote:

Sorry but it's shocking behaviour. If he was just a member of the O's match day team it would look bad enough, very "football behaviour", but to have that from the Welsh Captain was embarrassing to watch.
He's supposed to be an example to youngsters, not following the ref around to forcefully influence him then nearly fighting with the other team.

Agreed, the problem was the 8 forwards on the field were really poor
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 So surely there must be sanctions against AWJ ??
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With us having to play the O's again this season, this is a matter that WP could raise with the appointed referee prior to the game. 
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I don't condone this, but it really has to be said that AWJ is much more essential for the Ospreys than any Scarlet is for the Scarlets.  (Not even Liam Williams comes close).
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Originally posted by najbritcol najbritcol wrote:

I don't condone this, but it really has to be said that AWJ is much more essential for the Ospreys than any Scarlet is for the Scarlets.  (Not even Liam Williams comes close).


It just shows that a team shouldn't be built around one player.
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