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Barry John - Worst columnist ever?

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Gate12 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 November 2009 at 9:03pm
Originally posted by McQ McQ wrote:

Jes wept. Is there a cretin filter here somewhere?
 
Is that aimed at anyone in particular or just a general observation?
 
Edit: That's a rhetorical question.
 
I assume that Barry John get's paid to give roughly realistic views, I don't think there's many people that would currently see Henson as a realistic option as 12, being as he doesn't play rugby at the moment.
 
Care to comment on the content of the post rather than just fall into your hypothetical filter criteria?


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote McQ Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 November 2009 at 10:13pm
Originally posted by Gate12 Gate12 wrote:

Originally posted by McQ McQ wrote:

Jes wept. Is there a cretin filter here somewhere?
 
Is that aimed at anyone in particular or just a general observation?
 
Edit: That's a rhetorical question.
 
I assume that Barry John get's paid to give roughly realistic views, I don't think there's many people that would currently see Henson as a realistic option as 12, being as he doesn't play rugby at the moment.
 
Care to comment on the content of the post rather than just fall into your hypothetical filter criteria?
Fine, will do, just after you explain how Ickle is one of Wales' problems and how you reason Dan or Stoddart are anywhere near being international class 15's.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Gate12 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 November 2009 at 10:50pm
Originally posted by McQ McQ wrote:

Originally posted by Gate12 Gate12 wrote:

Originally posted by McQ McQ wrote:

Jes wept. Is there a cretin filter here somewhere?
 
Is that aimed at anyone in particular or just a general observation?
 
Edit: That's a rhetorical question.
 
I assume that Barry John get's paid to give roughly realistic views, I don't think there's many people that would currently see Henson as a realistic option as 12, being as he doesn't play rugby at the moment.
 
Care to comment on the content of the post rather than just fall into your hypothetical filter criteria?
Fine, will do, just after you explain how Ickle is one of Wales' problems and how you reason Dan or Stoddart are anywhere near being international class 15's.
 
How come most of your posts seem to be looking for an argument? if you re-read (or even read it once properly) my post then its fairly obvious where I'm coming from with my views, I'm not saying that Shane is any more the problem than Halfpenny or either are a 'problem', I just personally don't think playing both of them is effective or playing a 15 than can't hit the line, if we had a thoroughly dominant pack and wanted to play boring rugby then Hook might work at 15, but Wales need to score tries and they're not.
 
Stoddart and Dan might be far from the finished articles but they're better 15's than Hook in my opinion, as is Baz.
 
I'm just giving a view on where I think Wales are going wrong and the solutions and don't see why you need to be so insulting and patronising in response without actually giving any reasons for disagreeing.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mike Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 December 2009 at 1:35pm
Originally posted by McQ McQ wrote:

Jes wept. Is there a cretin filter here somewhere?
 
Why? What he's said is pretty much spot on.
 
Wales must be the only country in the world that sees its rugby team hammered and blames it on a lack of creativity in the backs.
 
Martyn has been bullied pretty much everytime he's come up against a physical SH 7. He used to get owned by Easterby everytime he played at Stradey. Wales shouldn't drop him as he's the best option we have, but the observation is fair IMO.
 
No-one suggests dropping Shane; just that playing two C-Beebies on the wing in Shane and Halfpenny, particularly without power at 15, is going to cause problems. Mark Jones will come straight back into the side when fit, because at test-level he's still a better option than LH.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote McQ Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 December 2009 at 11:50am

Fine, if you'd go along with dropping Hook totally and playing Stoddart ot FB then bully for you. Agreed it wouldn't improve the forward platform, but then that's not what we're discussing. Would it improve the back play....not fking likely.

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Originally posted by McQ McQ wrote:

Fine, if you'd go along with dropping Hook totally and playing Stoddart ot FB then bully for you. Agreed it wouldn't improve the forward platform, but then that's not what we're discussing. Would it improve the back play....not fking likely.

 
Already covered why it would improve the back play by having a specialist 15, if you really think that Hook is a better option going forward than Stoddart (or Baz or Dan) then as you say bully for you. The topic is about Barry John's comments in general which are why Wales lost and what they need to do to improve their attack so everything I've said is relevant.
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barry john never offers considered views over time. he's a knee jerk reaction guy whose columns are extremely predictable. i'd like to see the wales on sunday get some new experts on their panel and preferably people currently involved in the game in some capacity or players who have retired this decade. some of these 70s players are given far too much column inches.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote lofty evans Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 December 2009 at 9:29pm
H is as positive as the posters on here who always take a pop at anything Scarlet, Hook is rubbish, my 20 year old son who plays centre would bury him permanently and bloody good riddence. John's views are more biased than mine,,,
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