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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote roy munster Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 July 2018 at 11:12am
lol I dont know whether to laugh or cry....whilst the media try to paint him and putin or the korean kid as a one dimensional bunch of red blooded macho men having a stare down, the truth appears somewhat different. From what I've seen its more bromance than alpha male face off...Obviously with Putin giving nothing away other than a football lol On a serious note, now that they have a dialogue hopefully they can find some kind of better way forward on Syria , nuclear weapons , Korea and so on. 



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ffidel Bennett Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 July 2018 at 5:35pm
If the western media provided any evidence whatsoever of Russian interference, then people who haven't been brainwashed by the continual demonization of Putin and Russia, might have to provide answers. The media seem to be completely satisfied by "the intelligence community said so" and when you consider all the lies that have come from those sources from  "weapons of mass destruction" to  "9/11" then you've got to be very gullible to believe them.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote roy munster Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 July 2018 at 5:46pm
Originally posted by Ffidel Bennett Ffidel Bennett wrote:

If the western media provided any evidence whatsoever of Russian interference, then people who haven't been brainwashed by the continual demonization of Putin and Russia, might have to provide answers. The media seem to be completely satisfied by "the intelligence community said so" and when you consider all the lies that have come from those sources from  "weapons of mass destruction" to  "9/11" then you've got to be very gullible to believe them.

CNN are worse than Fox nowadays, its a joke
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They are just a bunch of really friendly dictators yeah just like a boy band. The Dictators dressed in suits walking on stage to Little Green Bag...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote roy munster Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 July 2018 at 7:24pm
I hadnt watched one of these press conferences for a while, its bizarrely aggressive, you can barely hear people speak for the endless clicking of cameras too. The politicians repeat their talking points , the complacent journos ask the exact same questions, the exact same way, they constantly interrupt and no one learns a thing...Is it any wonder we get so little substance out of them?
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Originally posted by roy munster roy munster wrote:

I hadnt watched one of these press conferences for a while, its bizarrely aggressive, you can barely hear people speak for the endless clicking of cameras too. The politicians repeat their talking points , the complacent journos ask the exact same questions, the exact same way, they constantly interrupt and no one learns a thing...Is it any wonder we get so little substance out of them?
 

Roy, they don't want any answers that contradict the media's simplistic world view  -US good, Russia bad. The media won't allow any arguments or evidence that might make people think  in a different way to the billionaires and right wing governments that pay them. 
As far as Cold War MkII is concerned investigative journalism doesn't exist, as it all must be Putin's fault. Evidence isn't necessary if you believe this.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote GPR - Rochester Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 July 2018 at 9:09am
Yes it would be pretty easy for the US Intelligence community to provide some evidence of their claims if they indeed possess it. Apparently Putin has offered access to the people accused which seems, on the face of it, fair. However I am not in possession of the full facts. It cannot be wrong for these two to try and establish a dialogue. Too many self interested parties seem to stand to gain by continuing friction. 
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Just to try and get back on topic..

The EU has just signed one of the World’s biggest free trade deals with Japan, covering nearly a third of the world’s GP and 600 million people.
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-44857317

This comes a week after the US president’s visit began with him insulting our sitting Prime Minister and saying our current Brexit trajectory will ‘kill’ any chance of a UK-US trade deal. There was also hundreds of thousands of protestors of Trump’s visit.

The British people would prefer to remain than have a ‘no-deal’ Brexit.
http://uk.businessinsider.com/yougov-poll-voters-would-rather-remain-in-eu-than-accept-a-no-deal-brexit-2018-7

“It seems that the money Vote Leave illegally distributed was spent on specifically targeting voters identified as susceptible to racist propaganda with racist propaganda.” - James O’Brien
The extra £500k spent by the Leave campaigns (illegally) equates to around 150million Facebook adverts.
https://twitter.com/mrjamesob/status/1019288036121698305?s=21
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote roy munster Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 July 2018 at 3:10pm
sounds like good news at first glance sospan though one would need to understand the mass of small print in such a deal. Perhaps Brexit has inadvertantly given the EU the massive kick up the backside it needed. Whatever happens now, I think a hard brexit is out the window. 
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korea disnmantling its missiles? barely a word on the bbc news


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Saw this on the BBC website earlier.
Dismantling appears to have stated on a missile testing facility

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-44933126
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The BBC is not a neutral broadcaster. As the recognized state broadcaster, it has serious a serious neo-liberal agenda and its news/programmes on Corbyn, Brexit, Russia, Syria. Trump, N.Korea are so heavily slanted, that it is extremely unusual to find anything positive about any of the above.
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Originally posted by trident trident wrote:

Saw this on the BBC website earlier.
Dismantling appears to have stated on a missile testing facility

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-44933126

kind of disturbing how the bbc has barely covered this rather massive story? Agenda?
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What have the last four posts got to do with Brexit?
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Originally posted by SospanMawr SospanMawr wrote:

What have the last four posts got to do with Brexit?

other posters took the thread on an anti trump anti brexit tangent, this story is a pro trump story, granted its tenuous link but when people take the topics on a tangent it takes us to different topics. I notice you didnt pick up other posters on their tangents such as discussing trump being rude to theresa may and so on
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Originally posted by roy munster roy munster wrote:

Originally posted by SospanMawr SospanMawr wrote:

What have the last four posts got to do with Brexit?


other posters took the thread on an anti trump anti brexit tangent, this story is a pro trump story, granted its tenuous link but when people take the topics on a tangent it takes us to different topics. I notice you didnt pick up other posters on their tangents such as discussing trump being rude to theresa may and so on
Trump criticised May on her handling of Brexit, and the US has long been touted as one of the places we’d go for a trade deal to replace business lost/hampered by Brexit.
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