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I would consider Robert Jones as a backs coach- Robert was a very well respected interim backs coach before being replaced by the Pivac regime, Holley was also well respected and both got our backs playing with confidence and in the scarlets way.
Dai Young would be a very good shout as Head Coach though.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Huwbach Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 November 2020 at 7:11pm
Let’s not go back. Or get random coaches from west wales. A consultant maybe. One thing I think is missing is an understanding of the club and the passion amongst the greats on match days. Brad was very affected by the likes of Phil Bennett having a chat after the game and explaining the importance of the Scarlets. It builds responsibility. Sadly, in this era of COVID everything feels cold and soulless. I am prepared to give the team until Christmas - changing things now won’t achieve a great deal. Get Barclay in for a couple of months to build the passion again. The team could do with having a bit of fun together but where can they go? Difficult times. 
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I’d like to see a culture change and for that i’d like someone such as Jim Mallinder who turned Northampton Saints into a force to be reckoned with. We need to establish a long term plan, I dont want to see chop and change for the sake of a bad year. Get a big name or don’t bother. 
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Was it on reflection, a mistake bringing in Richard Kelly for Ioan Cunningham who was pretty much respected by the forwards  I thought?🤔 it’s the pack who aren’t really gelling and when you watch the Leinster team last night you saw how they moved in 2 or more forwards close by, not in ones, which we seem to be a bit prone to and losing momentum as well as risking isolation. 
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Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:

Was it on reflection, a mistake bringing in Richard Kelly for Ioan Cunningham who was pretty much respected by the forwards  I thought?🤔 it’s the pack who aren’t really gelling and when you watch the Leinster team last night you saw how they moved in 2 or more forwards close by, not in ones, which we seem to be a bit prone to and losing momentum as well as risking isolation. 
I don’t think so as over the last few years we haven’t really played as a pack, more as individuals in the forwards, while this year the problems have been primarily in the backs; although as you say our pack is still a millions miles behind the likes of Leinster. Let’s hope that Kelly can continue to improve our forward play over the course of the season.
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Originally posted by Legendinmybathroom Legendinmybathroom wrote:

I would consider Robert Jones as a backs coach- Robert was a very well respected interim backs coach before being replaced by the Pivac regime, Holley was also well respected and both got our backs playing with confidence and in the scarlets way.
Dai Young would be a very good shout as Head Coach though.
He hasn't coached at professional level since 2007...
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Dai Young is a no for me. He struggled to get any decent results from a side which, after he left, made the final of the playoffs in the AP. 
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Originally posted by scarletnut scarletnut wrote:

Originally posted by Legendinmybathroom Legendinmybathroom wrote:

I would consider Robert Jones as a backs coach- Robert was a very well respected interim backs coach before being replaced by the Pivac regime, Holley was also well respected and both got our backs playing with confidence and in the scarlets way.
Dai Young would be a very good shout as Head Coach though.
He hasn't coached at professional level since 2007...
Sorry, I thought that he was with us more recently, doesn’t time fly for us scarlets fans.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote SA14 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 November 2020 at 11:30pm
Originally posted by gaffer gaffer wrote:

Originally posted by N14 N14 wrote:

Originally posted by henry_winkler henry_winkler wrote:

I have reserved judgement until now, cos I'm mature like that.

People say when we won the league we lost the first few with Pivac then look what happened. Those losses were hard to take but we were playing well and there was magic on the air, you could sense it.

Need to get out of this as cheaply as possible, bring someone in over his head and give him a sideways shift, perhaps he'll quit.

Can't believe Howley being mentioned but the appalling fact is, Howley would be an improvement 😱

Dai Young mentioned, even Phil Davies or Lyn Jones would be an improvement, these guys can put structure in place. What's Sean Holley doing these days? 
Doubt Sean Holley would be interested. He’s got the easy life of being a pundit.
No way would I want Howley! Or Lyn Jones! Not even on a short term/interim basis.


Dai Young the only name that should be considered from that list. Holley hasn't got a clue, he's worse than what we've got.

With Fiji in meltdown could Vern Cotter be persuaded? Could we afford him?

Seriously? Holley is one of the most successful coaches out there. 
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Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

Originally posted by gaffer gaffer wrote:

Originally posted by N14 N14 wrote:

Originally posted by henry_winkler henry_winkler wrote:

I have reserved judgement until now, cos I'm mature like that.

People say when we won the league we lost the first few with Pivac then look what happened. Those losses were hard to take but we were playing well and there was magic on the air, you could sense it.

Need to get out of this as cheaply as possible, bring someone in over his head and give him a sideways shift, perhaps he'll quit.

Can't believe Howley being mentioned but the appalling fact is, Howley would be an improvement 😱

Dai Young mentioned, even Phil Davies or Lyn Jones would be an improvement, these guys can put structure in place. What's Sean Holley doing these days? 

Doubt Sean Holley would be interested. He’s got the easy life of being a pundit.
No way would I want Howley! Or Lyn Jones! Not even on a short term/interim basis.


Dai Young the only name that should be considered from that list. Holley hasn't got a clue, he's worse than what we've got.

With Fiji in meltdown could Vern Cotter be persuaded? Could we afford him?



Seriously? Holley is one of the most successful coaches out there. 

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Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

Dai Young is a no for me. He struggled to get any decent results from a side which, after he left, made the final of the playoffs in the AP. 
i wouldn't be surprised if dai young is being lined up as next welsh coach,there are a few texts circulating regarding the unhappiness in the wales camp with pivac.
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Keep Holley as far from PYS as possible.
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Originally posted by BlackwoodScarlet BlackwoodScarlet wrote:

Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

Originally posted by gaffer gaffer wrote:

Originally posted by N14 N14 wrote:

Originally posted by henry_winkler henry_winkler wrote:

I have reserved judgement until now, cos I'm mature like that.

People say when we won the league we lost the first few with Pivac then look what happened. Those losses were hard to take but we were playing well and there was magic on the air, you could sense it.

Need to get out of this as cheaply as possible, bring someone in over his head and give him a sideways shift, perhaps he'll quit.

Can't believe Howley being mentioned but the appalling fact is, Howley would be an improvement 😱

Dai Young mentioned, even Phil Davies or Lyn Jones would be an improvement, these guys can put structure in place. What's Sean Holley doing these days? 

Doubt Sean Holley would be interested. He’s got the easy life of being a pundit.
No way would I want Howley! Or Lyn Jones! Not even on a short term/interim basis.


Dai Young the only name that should be considered from that list. Holley hasn't got a clue, he's worse than what we've got.

With Fiji in meltdown could Vern Cotter be persuaded? Could we afford him?



Seriously? Holley is one of the most successful coaches out there. 

Was !

 No one has been able to seriously explain why Rob Howley was sought after by Warren Gatland from Wasps days and retained by him for TEN years during a great period for Welsh rugby.The bile spouted about him is just so wrong and unjust. Even Mc Bryde had neegativity yet somehow good enough for being hand picked at a slightly successful Irish club 🤨 People talk such rubbish sometimes. Let’s keep on demeaning our own . It’s the Welsh way after all 😂 no wonder people opt to go outside Wales or go to punditry  to avoid all this . 


Edited by reesytheexile - 10 November 2020 at 9:27am
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Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:

Originally posted by BlackwoodScarlet BlackwoodScarlet wrote:

Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

Originally posted by gaffer gaffer wrote:

Originally posted by N14 N14 wrote:

Originally posted by henry_winkler henry_winkler wrote:

I have reserved judgement until now, cos I'm mature like that.

People say when we won the league we lost the first few with Pivac then look what happened. Those losses were hard to take but we were playing well and there was magic on the air, you could sense it.

Need to get out of this as cheaply as possible, bring someone in over his head and give him a sideways shift, perhaps he'll quit.

Can't believe Howley being mentioned but the appalling fact is, Howley would be an improvement 😱

Dai Young mentioned, even Phil Davies or Lyn Jones would be an improvement, these guys can put structure in place. What's Sean Holley doing these days? 

Doubt Sean Holley would be interested. He’s got the easy life of being a pundit.
No way would I want Howley! Or Lyn Jones! Not even on a short term/interim basis.




Dai Young the only name that should be considered from that list. Holley hasn't got a clue, he's worse than what we've got.

With Fiji in meltdown could Vern Cotter be persuaded? Could we afford him?



Seriously? Holley is one of the most successful coaches out there. 

Was !

 No one has been able to seriously explain why Rob Howley was sought after by Warren Gatland from Wasps days and retained by him for TEN years during a great period for Welsh rugby.The bile spouted about him is just so wrong and unjust. Even Mc Bryde had neegativity yet somehow good enough for being hand picked at a slightly successful Irish club 🤨 People talk such rubbish sometimes. Let’s keep on demeaning our own . It’s the Welsh way after all 😂 no wonder people opt to go outside Wales or go to punditry  to avoid all this . 

I totally agree with you. I am not Howley's greatest fan but would love to see him put his blueprint on a team without the contraints of Gatland. Other Welsh coaches - are now doing good things for the  Scottish defence & the Crusaders in NZ yet are totally discounted by many. Time to big up our own & give them a fighting chance I say. 
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Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:

Originally posted by BlackwoodScarlet BlackwoodScarlet wrote:

Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

Originally posted by gaffer gaffer wrote:

Originally posted by N14 N14 wrote:

Originally posted by henry_winkler henry_winkler wrote:

I have reserved judgement until now, cos I'm mature like that.

People say when we won the league we lost the first few with Pivac then look what happened. Those losses were hard to take but we were playing well and there was magic on the air, you could sense it.

Need to get out of this as cheaply as possible, bring someone in over his head and give him a sideways shift, perhaps he'll quit.

Can't believe Howley being mentioned but the appalling fact is, Howley would be an improvement 😱

Dai Young mentioned, even Phil Davies or Lyn Jones would be an improvement, these guys can put structure in place. What's Sean Holley doing these days? 

Doubt Sean Holley would be interested. He’s got the easy life of being a pundit.
No way would I want Howley! Or Lyn Jones! Not even on a short term/interim basis.




Dai Young the only name that should be considered from that list. Holley hasn't got a clue, he's worse than what we've got.

With Fiji in meltdown could Vern Cotter be persuaded? Could we afford him?



Seriously? Holley is one of the most successful coaches out there. 

Was !

 No one has been able to seriously explain why Rob Howley was sought after by Warren Gatland from Wasps days and retained by him for TEN years during a great period for Welsh rugby.The bile spouted about him is just so wrong and unjust. Even Mc Bryde had neegativity yet somehow good enough for being hand picked at a slightly successful Irish club 🤨 People talk such rubbish sometimes. Let’s keep on demeaning our own . It’s the Welsh way after all 😂 no wonder people opt to go outside Wales or go to punditry  to avoid all this . 

I totally agree with you. I am not Howley's greatest fan but would love to see him put his blueprint on a team without the contraints of Gatland. Other Welsh coaches - are now doing good things for the  Scottish defence & the Crusaders in NZ yet are totally discounted by many. Time to big up our own & give them a fighting chance I say. 
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Originally posted by BlackwoodScarlet BlackwoodScarlet wrote:

Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

Originally posted by gaffer gaffer wrote:

Originally posted by N14 N14 wrote:

Originally posted by henry_winkler henry_winkler wrote:

I have reserved judgement until now, cos I'm mature like that.

People say when we won the league we lost the first few with Pivac then look what happened. Those losses were hard to take but we were playing well and there was magic on the air, you could sense it.

Need to get out of this as cheaply as possible, bring someone in over his head and give him a sideways shift, perhaps he'll quit.

Can't believe Howley being mentioned but the appalling fact is, Howley would be an improvement 😱

Dai Young mentioned, even Phil Davies or Lyn Jones would be an improvement, these guys can put structure in place. What's Sean Holley doing these days? 

Doubt Sean Holley would be interested. He’s got the easy life of being a pundit.
No way would I want Howley! Or Lyn Jones! Not even on a short term/interim basis.


Dai Young the only name that should be considered from that list. Holley hasn't got a clue, he's worse than what we've got.

With Fiji in meltdown could Vern Cotter be persuaded? Could we afford him?



Seriously? Holley is one of the most successful coaches out there. 

Was !

Who did he coach to back up the fact he’s no good anymore?
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