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reesytheexile
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Don’t know much about him but the Mayor of New York comes over as a very plain speaking and socially minded / caring person- no wonder he’s no fan of Trump or vice versa
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GPR - Rochester
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Andrew Cuomo I think is the New York mayor who has called out Trump for his cavalier attitude towards the virus which he is now back tracking on it appears. Indeed Cuomo, a democrat, has been touted as the man who the Democrats will turn to to fight Trump at the next election. Apparently the front runner - Biden - is seen as not good enough to win due to his rather embarrassing inability to get his words out correctly!!!!!
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roy munster
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The news just gets worse every day. I totally agree with you about the tories their handling of the nhs is a disgrace. But we are where we are now, we know have to pull together all of us and somehow make the best of this horrific situation
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dr_martinov
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I have just seen the news also. I think we're now in the toughest period for us, not making the previous weeks any less tragic, but from now on is when we need to be our strongest. In Wales, particularly west, there is the factor that we are even a couple of days behind the South East, London especially, as well.
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Milli
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Herd Immunity by Stealth. Its Criminal
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roy munster
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I fear the Uk is the least prepared of all the major nations for this pandemic and a bunch of daily media updates wont cover up for the enormous shortages in our NHS
only 2000 nhs staff have been tested so far ?
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ROYMOND MUNTER MBE (FOR SERVICES TO THE COMBOVER)
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RR1972
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I just read it's in south Africa now, have you ever been to sa guys? dear me if this virus into the shanty towns and townships the death toll will be carnage people crammed on top of each other en masse, will be a disaster just hope this heat kills it theory is right
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roy munster
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Its horrific. About the only thing I can say in their favor is they did at least tell the old and vulnerable to stay home. But it appears their original masterplan involved herd immmunity and allowing the majority of rest of the population to catch it and eventually to become immune? Far easier to do that than to actually test and treat and protect nhs workers and ensure we have enough beds staff ventlllators. at least testing is said to be up to 10,000 per day now allegedly I must be naive I never in a million years thought they could be this frivolous,heartless and incompetent when dealing with millions of lives? Just need to pray these companies fast tracking equipment can deliver the goods to a satisfactory level and quanity. Edited by roy munster - 01 April 2020 at 5:15pm |
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aber-fan
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Agree with much of what you say, but the last line seems a bit unfair... Wales started testing medical staff a fortnight ago - England are only just getting to it now. This comment is more speculative, but reading between the lines it sounds as if the WAG had an understanding with Roche to supply more testing kits (they say, in fact, that they have something on paper)... Roche deny there was a contract, so maybe it was a written understanding, not a contract... then along comes the Westminster govt. to bugger everything p by making a higher bid, maybe? This shambles sounds as if it was made in London, not Cardiff... and I don't see any evidence that the Tories are doing a good job of running anything at all, TBH. By the way - do you think it is right for the government in Westminster to decree that HS2 is an 'England and Wales' project, thus confiscating £5 BILLION pounds from the Welsh budget? That'd pay for a good few doctors, nurses and hospitals!
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“You cannot reason a man out of what he never reasoned himself into.” (Jonathan Swift)
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roy munster
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I just think that devolution in this instance was a madness as were all bidding against each other for life saving equipment and pushing the prices up too as for hs2 the whole thing has been a shambles from day 1...do I think the uk should pay £106 billion to get from manchester birmingham to london 20 minutes quicker? erm no should wales pay £5 billion towards it and get absolutely nothing? again no Id cancel the entire project today lets concentrate our energy and resources on saving lives
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Ffidel Bennett
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An even more senseless waste of money is the unpublished agreement between the US and the Tory leaders to upgrade the Trident "nuclear deterrent". It was not debated in the UK parliament or even announced in public, and over the lifetime of the weapon system will cost at least £210 billion. Still it would only have been squandered saving/improving lives if it had been spent to improve the NHS, education, housing or some other frivolous cause.
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My understanding is that the Welsh govt were gazumped by Roche. I'm normally very critical of Labour's running of the Welsh govt but I think they've acquitted themselves reasonably well so far on Covid-19. Happy to be corrected by those who know better than me! That they appear quiet IMHO is more to do with the paucity of media coverage. What I do see of them seems fair. It doesn't help that the beeb dropped the morning Wales news bulletins. As is the case with much in Wales, our media is underdeveloped and I wonder if this is proving to be a problem in the current crisis?
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roy munster
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dr_martinov
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Again, just being blunt: median age of SA is 27.6 years compared to UKs at 40+, will that make a difference? The median age is 21 for black South Africans as well, who would represent the majority in those shanty towns yes? A factor going the other way is I believe smoking is far more common in South Africa than the UK but I don't know about rates of underlying health conditions. But yes, poverty is going to be the biggest aspect in this. Are they under lockdown? Is that even possible in those types of towns?
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aber-fan
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Yet another example of incompetence by the UK government. Now, I understand some of you saying you'd prefer to be without a WAG - but that only makes sense to me if the UK government was clearly run more efficiently and provided Wales with better services. As far as I can see, the Westminster government has been a bit of a disaster for a long time - for the NHS, certainly since the Tories took over, and for other matters even longer than that. Is the WAG more competent? Who knows - but they can hardly be worse. It would be a very complex debate, TBH, so it comes down to: "Do you trust the UK government to treat Wales more fairly, without an Assembly?" IMHO, the answer is clearly 'no', and the way they replace - or more likely, don't replace - funds coming to Wales from the EU will be important evidence one way or the other. The other point here - is it fair for the Welsh taxpayer to stump up for HS2, and for Trident come to that? However - having made those points, I'm more than happy to leave this discussion until after we get through the coronavirus disaster - hoping that we all do! From here on, I'll only comment on how well, or badly, the authorities are dealing with the crisis... 'unless provoked', maybe! |
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RR1972
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trident is a difficult one , no nation with a nuke will ever be invaded but no one is likely to invade us anyway ditch that put that into conventional forces the nhs and care budget it's a game changer
a pal of mine is a nurse in the royal Glamorgan they are using paper masks, some nurses have no masks like sending an army to war with no guns, disgraceful all our drs and nurses deserve a medal for this As for the WA idea is fine in principle, it is just staffed and run by second raters who cannot run an economy , who in that set up has ever been a successful business man or held any position of power outside of politics? jobs for the boys and girls lot if I ever saw it the calibre of wa cabinet members is not of sufficient quality to secure wales future until that changes I won't be in favour of any extra powers for the likes of drakeford It's also incredibly Cardiff centric to the detriment of the rest of wales
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