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Eastern outpost
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Posted: 02 April 2017 at 10:41am |
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In a world where you can be anything β Be Kind.
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Vulcan
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I used to watch La Rochelle in the ProD2. Big crowds and lots of social drinking, very similar to ASM.
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KID A
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Ok. Lets hope the nasty French listen to you and change their ways. |
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GPR - Rochester
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You really should read other posters comments - but what the hell that may get in the way of your arguement. I have never said that all overseas players should be banned. The wonderful players you mention have graced the Scarlets sides over many years. Its the quantity that I am against. You really believe that our model is the same as Toulon. You also list quotas. Lets try the facts shall we - todays Toulon 23 contains 12 players not eligible for France. The last Scarlets team contained 6 not eligible for Wales. Broaden it out to the wider squad & the Scarlets have another two - Bernardo & Bulbring; Toulon have around 8. So we have 8 in our full squad with Toulon having around 20. So my anger, as you put it, is based on as little more than two!!!! As far as my magic limit I think the WRU have it about right as do the IRFU.
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GPR - Rochester
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La Rochelle are the great surprise team in this years top 14. They have the audacity to win away from home!!!!
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Eastern outpost
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Mart, they were tipped as strong relegation candidates preseason.
No strong cash boost, afaik. They were sparkling last night. In the past they've been a bit forward oriented and dull. This season, they've had much more than that. Hope they make it to Edinburgh for the final. If Ioan Cunningham was watching their maul, it'll have been time well spent.πππ Edited by Eastern outpost - 01 April 2017 at 7:49pm |
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Mr Ian
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They are the real surprise of this year, I ve watched many games of them and play a really enjoyable rugby, a mix of power of their forward and skilled and pace backs, all linked by experience of Brock James as flyhalf...they have important names like Atonio, Eaton, Vito, Paul Jordan, Botia and many youngs french in the backs...their phisical coach is italian... Really good team and surely they are candidate to win Challenge cup and maybe do well in Top14 |
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dr_martinov
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I saw stade Rochelais beat Edinburgh in the challenge cup and then noticed they are top of the Top 14! Forgive my ignorance but I've not heard of them before and didn't think they were one of the big French sides. Have they had a recent cash injection or something? They have a lot of kiwi and saffas in their squad as well I see.
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KID A
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The Scarlets do follow the Toulon model. It's exactly the same. We're just not as good at it and not in a sellable league. French rugby has JIFF quotas. i.e. Minimum amount of (12 I think) French qualified players in any matchday squad. That's compared to 14 Welsh qualified players in Welsh regional squads (as set out by WRU). So your anger is all based on 2 more foreign players per squad? Seems rather petty to me. In relation to this : "I have no particular bias against Saracens it is the principle of importing foreign starts ahead of home grown talent that I am against." we would have had no Regan King, Easterby, Finau, Barclay, Parkes, Hodges, Lyons, Ben Morgan etc etc etc if we ere not allowed to "import foreigners". Or is there a magic limit that you want to impose ? |
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Rich (Bris)
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To be fair to Sarries as well, their days of being a South Africanβ off-shoot are gone. This is their starting team for today's quarter
Alex Goode; Chris Ashton, Marcelo Bosch, Brad Barritt, Sean Maitland; Owen Farrell, Richard Wigglesworth; Mako Vunipola, Jamie George, Juan Figallo, Maro Itoje, Jim Hamilton, Michael Rhodes, Jackson Wray, Billy Vunipola So very few imported stars But c'mon Glasgow anyway!!!! Edited by Rich (Bris) - 01 April 2017 at 11:22am |
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GPR - Rochester
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Let me clarify. I have no particular bias against Saracens it is the principle of importing foreign starts ahead of home grown talent that I am against. I should have selected Toulon or Montpelier. You seem to suggest that you would be happy if the Scarlets could have followed the Toulon model. I certainly would not even if it had been allowed by the WRU. You also seem to suggest that sports franchises are somehow treated differently to other corporations by the Banks/lending institutions. I don't think so. Lines of credit will be given depending on the asset cover & cast iron personal guarantees. National governing bodies have a huge role to play in setting the rules. The WRU capping the quantity of non Welsh qualified players per squad against the French Federations stance is a perfect example.
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Rich (Bris)
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Hopefully we are seeing a change. New Zealand are certainly not gym monkeys and they play some of the best (the best?) Rugby I've ever seen in my 40 odd years of watching rugby. Scotland are going somewhere with smaller mute skillful players and the English backs are fairly small for sure. We will get there eventually as well! That said there still a lot of bosh being played but there always was by some teams
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Think about it, it's obvious...
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SospanMawr
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Size x gym work - amount of mistakes = quality of the player. Personally I see the bigger size of players and the emphasis on defence before attack making rugby a less enjoyable game to watch. |
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Bryn@man
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Superb.. Thanks for posting up. What a night it was. Great decision from SG & co to keep the QF at Stradey and not to fully capitalise on half the population of Munster wanting tickets. Still can feel the goosebumps from the first rendition of Fields of Athenry through to final whistle. Really thought we had our name on the HC.... Haven't eaten Walkers crisps since...
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