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ScarletBear
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If Samson's drop goal and try are the only scores in the game we'll all be over the moon. 4pts for us and nil to Toulon !!!
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Wil Chips
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We are going to be able to put a more than decent team out.
The one guy who's fitness I'd have traded for anyone's is Barclay. He has the habit of really coming to the fore in these big games, and his experience in the front line is invaluable. Realistically, I don't think we have quite enough grunt to win it, but a lbp for us, and keeping them to a 4 pt win, would be a great start to the campaign, and that is attainable for sure. Wyn, Owens, Lee Ball, Rawlins Shingler, Beirne, Boyde Cawdor Patch Parkes Foxy Steff McNichol Halfpenny Dylan, Elias, Kruger Bulbring, Macloed Jon Evs Scott Rhys Hones Edited by Wil Chips - 13 October 2017 at 7:08am |
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If halfers is fit then I can see Asquith being our cover at 10. I think we lost a lot with Beirne at 8 so would prefer them to give Macleod a shot at starting. I agree, not quite enough grunt in the 23 to beat them BUT they have a lot of huge, ageing forwards who may struggle if we can impose our pace of game on them.
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They had a better squad last season and we won at home and should have taken more at the away fixture. A dry and sunny day will suit us, and the pace we play. They don't come up against that very often so there is no reason why this squad cant win out there.
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GPR - Rochester
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My huge concern is our intensity up front from the kick off. If we start up front the way we did against the Ospreys & Ulster we will have lost the game by half time. From memory thats what cost us last season out there - we were slow out of the blocks and left ourselves too much to do. Toulon will know that is their best chance - come at us hard first 20 minutes. If we can match them in that period & stop them getting a roll on we can impose our attacking game. The longer we are in the arm wrestle the better. If we are within a score at 60 I fancy our chances. I think Tadgh's inclusion at 8 last weekend was a dry run for getting a bulkier pack out this weekend specifically to counter this first 20 minute onslaught.
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Rich (Bris)
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From what I can see from brief highlights from this season, Toulon are trying to play a more expansive game ( have generally tried to when at home anyway) and seeing as they are not at the top of the league this year and lots of competition for pay off spots, I think they will be particularly focused on the top 14 and so will relax and enjoy themselves in Europe - which might be a problem of course as they have great backs. I expect a very free flowing game and us to win if we have best available team out.
If Wayne was being honest when he said he would have to rotate some people because of the 5-day turnaround then there is the possibility that he will field a relatively weak team this weekend and pick the strongest team for the Bath match. On Lions tour about 2 or 3 players played mid week and then the Test a few days later so hopefully he won't need to rotate too much. |
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supertaf
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Worryingly all the pundits seem to think we have the minerals to do this, no pressure then
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supertaf
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Agree. When you consider the difference in the team plus that fact about the cards and also that I don't think Toulon are as good now as they were then particularly behind the scrum, we will never have a better chance.
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GPR - Rochester
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I was at the game in 2014 & watched at home last year. One thing that strikes me now, particularly comparing against the 2014 team is how stronger we are 1-23. Toulon, without Wilko & Armitage in his prime at 7/8, the NZ tight head whose name escapes me now, are certainly not stronger 1-23. Of course they are hugely formidable with my favourite No 8 Isa heading the charges. On both occasions we could/should have come away with losing bonus points which suggests that Sunday could be a cracker.
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Ffidel Bennett
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I'd go for- 1 Wyn 2 Elias 3 Samson 4 Ball 5 Bullbring 6 Shingler 7 Boyde 8 Tadgh 9 Cawdor 10 Patch 11 Steff 12 Scott 13 Foxy 14 McNichol 15 Halfpenny 16 Ken 17 Kruger 18 Gardiner 19 Rawlins 20 Macleod 21 Aled 22 Asquith 23 Parkes Kruger to come on first regardless of which prop leaves first and to play loosehead if it's Wyn If it's Samson he goes to the tight and swaps over when Wyn leaves. |
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GPR - Rochester
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Interesting call that Ffidel. Bulbring in front of Rawlins will add a bit more weight/grunt & going for scrummaging weight on the bench. If we can manage to mix it with them up front we are in with more than a shout.
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Parkes has to start if picking on form no brainer.
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