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KID A
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Posted: 09 June 2018 at 11:30am |
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To be fair, the Kiwi commentators called it exactly right.
The French guy was innocent and the Kiwi bang to rights guilty and should’ve been off. |
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John
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The AB should have been red-carded and the actual tackler committed the same seat belt tackle as the Frenchman in the other incident. Some of the decisions in the Ireland/Oz game are rather confusing as well. Cronin has just neck rolled an Australian forward so he landed on his head. Just a penalty because the Irishman didn't "finish him off".I thought if you tipped a player onto his head, then you were red-carded.
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KID A
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I can't believe that was only a penalty. They speared him into the ground neck first! |
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The only consistency this week has been that players in (baby and all) black shirts get away with anything.
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Fair comment. I can still remember a Wales v ABs game a few years ago when Wales started like a house on fire, looked all over as if they were going to score a try, when McCaw entered a ruck from the Welsh side (yes, indeed - no nonsense about coming in from the side - he was running back towards his own line!) and killed the ball. Nothing was given. If any rugby player ever pinched Harry Potter's 'cloak of invisibility', it must have been McCaw.
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It's very poor - the AB is clearly shouting at the ref when he's tackled, even though it's a legal tackle ATM (the laws are changing soon, I think?) - the AB tackle, on the other hand, is very like Sonny Bill's, or that cheap shot by their U20s guy - a clear red card. How did the ref and TMO miss that???????
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KID A
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The France player has sufferred a double fracture of the skull.
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Mogwen
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There should be more than your standard 3 match ban for that. It was a clear dirty cheap shot. Disgusting. |
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If an all black had a creased jersey people would make a fuss.
Edited by SA14 - 09 June 2018 at 10:05pm |
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aber-fan
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Eh? Your point being?
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People criticise them. |
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I still wake up late at night and think of what might have been when tim stimpson hit that jammy penalty1
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Do you think what they get away with is fair? In the interest of the game? Or should we just roll over because they’re the “All Blacks”. They follow the same rules as everyone else, it’s a shame mist of the referees don’t have the balks to punish them to the letter of the law. |
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If the Scarlets became the best team in Europe by getting away with stuff like the All blacks do you think there’d be complaints of us not playing fair by supporters? |
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The point is surely that the tackle was dangerous and illegal, as is shown clearly in the clip Kid A has posted at the top of this thread. So - two questions:
1. Do you agree that the shoulder to the head is dangerous and illegal, or is it a fair tackle in your opinion? 2. If you do agree with the rest of us about the tackle, do you think that the player should have been carded ( a clear red, IMO, but any card for you)? I didn't see the game, so I don't know if the ref went to the TMO or not - I suppose it's possible he missed it if he didn't, as surely a half-competent TMO would have advised the ref correctly.
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