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Posted: 03 February 2020 at 11:48am |
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Munster have done well there . The sarries kid is irish qualified to smart by the irfu. The english age groups are full of irish and welsh qualified players . They are going to lose a lot of players serves them right for tapping up so many welsh kids |
I am waiting for a reaction from them in all honesty. Woodward is seething about Tompkins for instance. A lot of time and money is being invested in a lot of these guys and it won't be appreciated when they up and leave for Wales/Ireland/Scotland. |
Tough.
If Eddie Jones had capped him for England, he would not have come on board with Wales. It's their own fault! |
Of course it is I'm with you all the way but I do feel there will a reaction. If we don't cap young Zammit then he could well be the pay back. Its all well & good him saying he wants to play for Wales but if Eddie comes calling with £15k per game on the line who knows.
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Posted: 03 February 2020 at 11:54am |
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aber-fan wrote:
GPR - Rochester wrote:
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Munster have done well there . The sarries kid is irish qualified to smart by the irfu. The english age groups are full of irish and welsh qualified players . They are going to lose a lot of players serves them right for tapping up so many welsh kids |
I am waiting for a reaction from them in all honesty. Woodward is seething about Tompkins for instance. A lot of time and money is being invested in a lot of these guys and it won't be appreciated when they up and leave for Wales/Ireland/Scotland. |
Tough.
If Eddie Jones had capped him for England, he would not have come on board with Wales. It's their own fault! |
Of course it is I'm with you all the way but I do feel there will a reaction. If we don't cap young Zammit then he could well be the pay back. Its all well & good him saying he wants to play for Wales but if Eddie comes calling with £15k per game on the line who knows. |
Zammit is in our squad for this 6N - with any luck, he'll get a cap off the bench v Scotland.
As for England - they have more players than any other nation, and can't pick them all - I doubt it would do much for squad unity, either, if Eddie started giving single caps to a lot of players just to stop them being picked by other nations!
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Posted: 03 February 2020 at 12:15pm |
From what I have seen of Zammit he is no one cap wonder. May's performance yesterday showed just what genuine top end pace can do. I am very wary of an English backlash against Welsh qualified English financed players and Zammit has already been approached by Jones. Jones has lost his best back 3 options - Nowell & Watson; Furbank had a tough debut in France, Daly continues to be a defensive liability.
The fact that Zammit is in our squad doesn't mean a thing as far I am aware - If Eddie told him he was starting against Scotland next week I wonder what would happen.
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Posted: 03 February 2020 at 12:34pm |
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From what I have seen of Zammit he is no one cap wonder. May's performance yesterday showed just what genuine top end pace can do. I am very wary of an English backlash against Welsh qualified English financed players and Zammit has already been approached by Jones. Jones has lost his best back 3 options - Nowell & Watson; Furbank had a tough debut in France, Daly continues to be a defensive liability.
The fact that Zammit is in our squad doesn't mean a thing as far I am aware - If Eddie told him he was starting against Scotland next week I wonder what would happen. |
Well if that happened England would be in huge trouble because Zammit isn’t English qualified. He’s fully committed to Wales. There’s zero chance he plays for anyone else
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Posted: 03 February 2020 at 12:39pm |
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From what I have seen of Zammit he is no one cap wonder. May's performance yesterday showed just what genuine top end pace can do. I am very wary of an English backlash against Welsh qualified English financed players and Zammit has already been approached by Jones. Jones has lost his best back 3 options - Nowell & Watson; Furbank had a tough debut in France, Daly continues to be a defensive liability.
The fact that Zammit is in our squad doesn't mean a thing as far I am aware - If Eddie told him he was starting against Scotland next week I wonder what would happen. | Well if that happened England would be in huge trouble because Zammit isn’t English qualified. He’s fully committed to Wales. There’s zero chance he plays for anyone else |
Well is he not - if he started playing for Hartbury in 2017 it will depend on when in 2017. Beginning of 2017 gives him 3 years residency. Maybe I am being paranoid here Steff as it all seems to going our way at the moment - Costellow to Scarlets; Moore to Blues; Liam coming home; talk of Tompkins coming to us; etc etc.
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Posted: 03 February 2020 at 12:42pm |
GPR - Rochester wrote:
scarletnut wrote:
GPR - Rochester wrote:
From what I have seen of Zammit he is no one cap wonder. May's performance yesterday showed just what genuine top end pace can do. I am very wary of an English backlash against Welsh qualified English financed players and Zammit has already been approached by Jones. Jones has lost his best back 3 options - Nowell & Watson; Furbank had a tough debut in France, Daly continues to be a defensive liability.
The fact that Zammit is in our squad doesn't mean a thing as far I am aware - If Eddie told him he was starting against Scotland next week I wonder what would happen. | Well if that happened England would be in huge trouble because Zammit isn’t English qualified. He’s fully committed to Wales. There’s zero chance he plays for anyone else |
Well is he not - if he started playing for Hartbury in 2017 it will depend on when in 2017. Beginning of 2017 gives him 3 years residency. Maybe I am being paranoid here Steff as it all seems to going our way at the moment - Costellow to Scarlets; Moore to Blues; Liam coming home; talk of Tompkins coming to us; etc etc. |
No he has two years left. If he was told at the start of the season he’d be in the Wales senior squad even Not playing a game he would be delighted. At 18 he is probably ahead of where he should be in his career.
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Posted: 03 February 2020 at 12:43pm |
scarletnut wrote:
GPR - Rochester wrote:
scarletnut wrote:
GPR - Rochester wrote:
From what I have seen of Zammit he is no one cap wonder. May's performance yesterday showed just what genuine top end pace can do. I am very wary of an English backlash against Welsh qualified English financed players and Zammit has already been approached by Jones. Jones has lost his best back 3 options - Nowell & Watson; Furbank had a tough debut in France, Daly continues to be a defensive liability.
The fact that Zammit is in our squad doesn't mean a thing as far I am aware - If Eddie told him he was starting against Scotland next week I wonder what would happen. | Well if that happened England would be in huge trouble because Zammit isn’t English qualified. He’s fully committed to Wales. There’s zero chance he plays for anyone else |
Well is he not - if he started playing for Hartbury in 2017 it will depend on when in 2017. Beginning of 2017 gives him 3 years residency. Maybe I am being paranoid here Steff as it all seems to going our way at the moment - Costellow to Scarlets; Moore to Blues; Liam coming home; talk of Tompkins coming to us; etc etc. | No he has two years left. If he was told at the start of the season he’d be in the Wales senior squad even Not playing a game he would be delighted. At 18 he is probably ahead of where he should be in his career.
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Posted: 03 February 2020 at 1:04pm |
CARDIFF BLUES
Cardiff are bringing two more players back to Wales, with winger Ryan Edwards joining on loan from Brizz with immediate effect in response to their back 3 injury crisis, and outside half Luke Scully on his way from Worcester as soon as next month.
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Posted: 03 February 2020 at 1:28pm |
GPR - Rochester wrote:
From what I have seen of Zammit he is no one cap wonder. May's performance yesterday showed just what genuine top end pace can do. I am very wary of an English backlash against Welsh qualified English financed players and Zammit has already been approached by Jones. Jones has lost his best back 3 options - Nowell & Watson; Furbank had a tough debut in France, Daly continues to be a defensive liability.
The fact that Zammit is in our squad doesn't mean a thing as far I am aware - If Eddie told him he was starting against Scotland next week I wonder what would happen. |
You seem to have misunderstood my point - that England can't realistically 'protect' all the players with dual qualifications by giving them a soft cap to deny their services to other countries.
As for Zammitt - I am optimistic that he can become a Welsh legend in future, but who knows? Some potentially great players have under-achieved because of injuries and other reasons... let's hope for the best, for the youngster.
In no way did I mean to suggest that Zammit was only worth a single cap!
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Posted: 03 February 2020 at 2:51pm |
NobbySosban wrote:
CARDIFF BLUES
Cardiff are bringing two more players back to Wales, with winger Ryan Edwards joining on loan from Brizz with immediate effect in response to their back 3 injury crisis, and outside half Luke Scully on his way from Worcester as soon as next month.
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Scully ex ospreys age group, was always supposed to be a good prospect but then again so was luke price! The blues and ourselves are clearly targeting the exiles and hopefully the other regions follow our lead
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Posted: 03 February 2020 at 2:54pm |
scarletnut wrote:
GPR - Rochester wrote:
scarletnut wrote:
GPR - Rochester wrote:
From what I have seen of Zammit he is no one cap wonder. May's performance yesterday showed just what genuine top end pace can do. I am very wary of an English backlash against Welsh qualified English financed players and Zammit has already been approached by Jones. Jones has lost his best back 3 options - Nowell & Watson; Furbank had a tough debut in France, Daly continues to be a defensive liability.
The fact that Zammit is in our squad doesn't mean a thing as far I am aware - If Eddie told him he was starting against Scotland next week I wonder what would happen. | Well if that happened England would be in huge trouble because Zammit isn’t English qualified. He’s fully committed to Wales. There’s zero chance he plays for anyone else |
Well is he not - if he started playing for Hartbury in 2017 it will depend on when in 2017. Beginning of 2017 gives him 3 years residency. Maybe I am being paranoid here Steff as it all seems to going our way at the moment - Costellow to Scarlets; Moore to Blues; Liam coming home; talk of Tompkins coming to us; etc etc. | No he has two years left. If he was told at the start of the season he’d be in the Wales senior squad even Not playing a game he would be delighted. At 18 he is probably ahead of where he should be in his career.
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listened to the ex munster / Gloucester hooker sherry talking about him on tv, said he is the quickest thing he's played with and he has a big frame that will fill out as he gets older We should have played him or at least had him on the bench Saturday, regardless of age on current form he is better than north or jonny mac
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Posted: 04 February 2020 at 7:58am |
RR1972 wrote:
scarletnut wrote:
GPR - Rochester wrote:
scarletnut wrote:
GPR - Rochester wrote:
From what I have seen of Zammit he is no one cap wonder. May's performance yesterday showed just what genuine top end pace can do. I am very wary of an English backlash against Welsh qualified English financed players and Zammit has already been approached by Jones. Jones has lost his best back 3 options - Nowell & Watson; Furbank had a tough debut in France, Daly continues to be a defensive liability.
The fact that Zammit is in our squad doesn't mean a thing as far I am aware - If Eddie told him he was starting against Scotland next week I wonder what would happen. | Well if that happened England would be in huge trouble because Zammit isn’t English qualified. He’s fully committed to Wales. There’s zero chance he plays for anyone else |
Well is he not - if he started playing for Hartbury in 2017 it will depend on when in 2017. Beginning of 2017 gives him 3 years residency. Maybe I am being paranoid here Steff as it all seems to going our way at the moment - Costellow to Scarlets; Moore to Blues; Liam coming home; talk of Tompkins coming to us; etc etc. | No he has two years left. If he was told at the start of the season he’d be in the Wales senior squad even Not playing a game he would be delighted. At 18 he is probably ahead of where he should be in his career.
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listened to the ex munster / Gloucester hooker sherry talking about him on tv, said he is the quickest thing he's played with and he has a big frame that will fill out as he gets older We should have played him or at least had him on the bench Saturday, regardless of age on current form he is better than north or jonny mac |
I agree - think we missed a trick. A back 3 of Liam, Zammit and Adams would frighten every team in this competition. Bravery & attacking mentality, lightening pace & the best finishing ability in Europe. I haven't given up hope that Zammit will play in Dublin. I appreciate that it is not ideal for him to start his International career away but this guy looked totally at home away in Montpellier & Toulouse so what the hell.
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Posted: 04 February 2020 at 1:49pm |
aber-fan wrote:
GPR - Rochester wrote:
aber-fan wrote:
GPR - Rochester wrote:
RR1972 wrote:
Munster have done well there . The sarries kid is irish qualified to smart by the irfu. The english age groups are full of irish and welsh qualified players . They are going to lose a lot of players serves them right for tapping up so many welsh kids |
I am waiting for a reaction from them in all honesty. Woodward is seething about Tompkins for instance. A lot of time and money is being invested in a lot of these guys and it won't be appreciated when they up and leave for Wales/Ireland/Scotland. |
Tough.
If Eddie Jones had capped him for England, he would not have come on board with Wales. It's their own fault! |
Of course it is I'm with you all the way but I do feel there will a reaction. If we don't cap young Zammit then he could well be the pay back. Its all well & good him saying he wants to play for Wales but if Eddie comes calling with £15k per game on the line who knows. |
Zammit is in our squad for this 6N - with any luck, he'll get a cap off the bench v Scotland.
As for England - they have more players than any other nation, and can't pick them all - I doubt it would do much for squad unity, either, if Eddie started giving single caps to a lot of players just to stop them being picked by other nations! |
Think he’ll be involved in the English game as he knows how to score tries against them and a winning try would be the greatest thing of this comp
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Posted: 04 February 2020 at 2:01pm |
Sosban bach wrote:
aber-fan wrote:
GPR - Rochester wrote:
aber-fan wrote:
GPR - Rochester wrote:
RR1972 wrote:
Munster have done well there . The sarries kid is irish qualified to smart by the irfu. The english age groups are full of irish and welsh qualified players . They are going to lose a lot of players serves them right for tapping up so many welsh kids |
I am waiting for a reaction from them in all honesty. Woodward is seething about Tompkins for instance. A lot of time and money is being invested in a lot of these guys and it won't be appreciated when they up and leave for Wales/Ireland/Scotland. |
Tough.
If Eddie Jones had capped him for England, he would not have come on board with Wales. It's their own fault! |
Of course it is I'm with you all the way but I do feel there will a reaction. If we don't cap young Zammit then he could well be the pay back. Its all well & good him saying he wants to play for Wales but if Eddie comes calling with £15k per game on the line who knows. |
Zammit is in our squad for this 6N - with any luck, he'll get a cap off the bench v Scotland.
As for England - they have more players than any other nation, and can't pick them all - I doubt it would do much for squad unity, either, if Eddie started giving single caps to a lot of players just to stop them being picked by other nations! |
Think he’ll be involved in the English game as he knows how to score tries against them and a winning try would be the greatest thing of this comp |
That would be nice! By then, anyway, he should be better used to the structures used by the team.
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Posted: 11 February 2020 at 11:42am |
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Posted: 11 February 2020 at 12:04pm |
Well how switched on are Ospreys? Looks as if a coaching ticket has just been put on a plate for them - Dai Young with Howley assisting & Clive Griffiths for defence.
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