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scarletnut
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I still wake up late at night and think of what might have been when tim stimpson hit that jammy penalty1
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townboy
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I don't think we are giving up on Dan,he has proved a good back up to Patch over the last 2 seasons and has played his part with us in winning the Pro12 and reaching the last 4 of Europe.This season he has only started 3 games the win against Leinster,agree he didn't go well against Benetton think he was carrying a injury and i thought he had a solid game on Friday...Owen Williams i don't think would come back to play 2nd fiddle to Patch and it would be a huge pay cut for him to take to..Sam Davies IMHO just wouldn't suit our way of playing kicks to much ball away,which proved 2nd half against us a few weeks ago..
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ladram
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I wouldn't blame asquith for going given the scant game time he gets,
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gorau
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Rob Evans will no doubt be on a dual contract and Steff Evans as well I'd imagine. Just hopefully Steff will stay despite not having played much so far this season, I hope he remains with us.
David Bulbring has said he wants to play for Wales so I'd imagine he would stay. Dan Jones has been great for us and I hope he stays and Paul Asquith has a big role to play, also next season he'll see more game time given the fact its World Cup year and Hadleigh Parkes and Jonathan Davies will be with Wales. So from those going out of contract I hope Rob Evans, Johnny McNicholl, Tom Prydie, Steff Evans, Paul Asquith, David Bulbring and Dan Jones stay.
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gorau
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Just noticed Josh McCloud and Will Boyde could also be out of contract. We need to keep them both
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scarletnut
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I still wake up late at night and think of what might have been when tim stimpson hit that jammy penalty1
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Wil Chips
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Pretty sure dual contacts, at least in their current format, will be phased out in the not too distant future..
I’d like to see us look at 3 year deals for home grown players, it’s a significant challenge to successfully negotiate th3 future with half your squad each season. |
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aber-fan
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I understand why we have this thread, but I also think it's been driven a little bit by the two disappointing results in Europe.
FWIW, I do think those results were significantly affected by the large number of injuries to key players, rather than any inherent weakness in the squad. I hope those players mentioned as being out of contract can be retained - not one of them is a poor player (IMO) but of course, if the coaches can identify and, crucially, afford an upgrade then fair enough. The Scarlets are never going to be in the position - financially - to have two equally strong 23-man squads. Lastly - I didn't know that dual contracts are on the way out. Will the cash spent on those be given directly to the regions, and if so will the number of players from each region in the Wales squad be a factor in the calculation? So long as we get fair remuneration for the contribution made to Wales, and can spend the money as we want, then fair enough. If it's an equal split, then that's hardly fair.
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henry_winkler
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Our 4/7/10/14 are very fragile regardless of how good they are, over the last couple of years we've missed these players for large parts of the season. I would say these positions need to be added to with quality and not fill the squad from the bottom up.
I'd be surprised if McNichol stays. |
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shocker
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A lock, 2 back row,, 1 genuine 7 and wing with pace
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Ffidel Bennett
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Dan Davis is a very promising 7 and we also have MacLeod and Boyde as cover for Cubby at 7. I think we've got to give Blade, Kennedy and Cassiem time to settle in the back row but we definitely need another 10 and a big, carrying lock. Other than at 10 what we're looking for is physicality, power and determination so that we can compete with the increasing number of sides coming at us with only those traits on offer. I love watching Patch attack but we need a back-up whose decision making regarding when to run or kick for position is one of his strongest assets, along with perhaps the confidence to overrule coaching guidelines when they don't suit a particular situation.
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GPR - Rochester
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In line with my earlier comment I would like to see us replace Kruger, Bulbring & Price with upgrades. Werne has been very good but is getting on now. Bulbring & Price have had their chances but aren't up to it as Friday showed.
I also agree that we need another quality 10. This requirement could well become urgent if Rhys is sidelined long term. I think long term only one of Dan or Angus is likely to stay.
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Exkixu
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I'd keep Kruger and in fairness Price is our 3rd choice. Bulbring I agree with. We don't have a replacement for Ball and even if Cummins steps up I'm not sure he'll even be that kind of second row. I'd love to be proved wrong and he's still very young but I don't think Dan Jones will ever be HEC material, I can't see a single part of his game that is outstanding. Which is worrying given Patchell's injuries and concussion issues.
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GPR - Rochester
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I think Dan Jones may well be the 10 to make way if his contract expires this season. Sam Davies being heavily linked to a move away from Ospreys. Not being selected for the opening game will have left its mark no doubt & the opportunity ( may be ) to work with Stevo could tempt him to us. It appears we are being heavily linked with Sam & Josh Adams.
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thommo
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A lot depends on contracts and the amount of negotiating that can be done. Ultimately we have a budget that I presume cannot match a lot of other teams. We therefore have to be prudent and if it means retaining some players who are not ideally suited, on a salary reduced contract then so be it. I agree that we are carrying some players. |
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TheKing
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How many sides have a better stable of 10’s than Patchell, Dan and O’Brien? Not many. I can possibly see the call for temporary cover with the injury crisis (if things are looking bad behind the scenes), but other than that, people are not valuing the quality that we have there, forgetting that an injury crisis will hit any team and casting blame in the wrong places. We already spend a disproportionate amount on backs compared to forwards. I still question the logic in signing SHC. How much is he on? He’s been underwhelming since signing and if he does improve will be off with Scotland.
Also can’t fathom people bagging Kruger. He’s been one of our best signings and is still producing his best. Our front row is the one area of our pack that is properly covered and funded. |
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