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https://www.indy100.com/news/brexit-leave-eu-deal-regret-b1780258

Wow !!! Did this guy really vote to jeopardise his business, or perhaps he didn't fully realise what he was voting for ???

Well done sir.
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Originally posted by ap sior ap sior wrote:

https://www.indy100.com/news/brexit-leave-eu-deal-regret-b1780258

Wow !!! Did this guy really vote to jeopardise his business, or perhaps he didn't fully realise what he was voting for ???

Well done sir.

Yet another non story. Well done that man for being so eagle eyed. So customers who would have originally bought from this businessman I assume because of cost, quality etc are suddenly going to buy an inferior product because, wait for it, they have to fill in some forms. Stroll on!!!!!!
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Leave.EU, a pro-Brexit campaign bankrolled by UKIP backer Arron Banks, has moved its registered office for its website to Ireland so that it can retain its ‘.eu’ internet address. Smile
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Originally posted by Rob o'r Bont Rob o'r Bont wrote:

Leave.EU, a pro-Brexit campaign bankrolled by UKIP backer Arron Banks, has moved its registered office for its website to Ireland so that it can retain its ‘.eu’ internet address. Smile
Another one to file under “couldn’t make it up”.
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Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

Originally posted by Rob o'r Bont Rob o'r Bont wrote:

Leave.EU, a pro-Brexit campaign bankrolled by UKIP backer Arron Banks, has moved its registered office for its website to Ireland so that it can retain its ‘.eu’ internet address. Smile
Another one to file under “couldn’t make it up”.
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Interesting post on the HGV driver shortage. 

https://www.ft.com/content/5f832d86-827e-4596-999d-e0618364dbe3

Obviously Brexit is a big factor in why there’s a shortage of drivers, and possibly Covid too, but the piece makes a more rounded point about how unsustainable that industry is.

Supplemented by foreign labour for years, an ageing workforce and wages not much better than stacking the supermarket shelves means the supply of drivers is only going down while the demand goes up and up.
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Originally posted by dyniol53 dyniol53 wrote:

Interesting post on the HGV driver shortage. 

https://www.ft.com/content/5f832d86-827e-4596-999d-e0618364dbe3

Obviously Brexit is a big factor in why there’s a shortage of drivers, and possibly Covid too, but the piece makes a more rounded point about how unsustainable that industry is.

Supplemented by foreign labour for years, an ageing workforce and wages not much better than stacking the supermarket shelves means the supply of drivers is only going down while the demand goes up and up.

Good time for driverless vehicles to come along then.
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Two obvious answera are to my simple mind anyhow a Pay higher wages b) train up those not in work to do the job. Hgv driving must be better than being on the dole?  Bring back cbs to that helps! 10/4 good buddySmile

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Sounds to me as if wages have been kept artificially lower due to the availaibility of Eastern European labour willing to work for less. Time for the transport industry to pay realistic wages for skilled labour. All part of levelling up which any socially conscious citizen should support. 
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Issue is training for HGV drivers take 3 years (so I’ve heard) so the idea of pushing up wages doesn’t quite work because the shortage is live (and partially due to Covid).

But yes the overwhelming impression I get from the article is being in the EU allowed us access to cheap labour, lowering prices in the shops.

I’d count that as a downside of Brexit, but then supermarkets having artificially low prices due to abundance foreign labour also disadvantages alternative, more local shops.


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Originally posted by dyniol53 dyniol53 wrote:

Issue is training for HGV drivers take 3 years (so I’ve heard) so the idea of pushing up wages doesn’t quite work because the shortage is live (and partially due to Covid).

But yes the overwhelming impression I get from the article is being in the EU allowed us access to cheap labour, lowering prices in the shops.

I’d count that as a downside of Brexit, but then supermarkets having artificially low prices due to abundance foreign labour also disadvantages alternative, more local shops.

Levelling up earnings in the Uk should surely be deemed to be a positive. Therefore I see it as a positive due to Brexit. Why should a job which takes 3 years to qualify for be paid a similar rate as stacking shelves? If paying individuals a fair rate for the job equates to higher supermarket prices then that is a price I am personally prepared to pay. 
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Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Originally posted by dyniol53 dyniol53 wrote:

Issue is training for HGV drivers take 3 years (so I’ve heard) so the idea of pushing up wages doesn’t quite work because the shortage is live (and partially due to Covid).

But yes the overwhelming impression I get from the article is being in the EU allowed us access to cheap labour, lowering prices in the shops.

I’d count that as a downside of Brexit, but then supermarkets having artificially low prices due to abundance foreign labour also disadvantages alternative, more local shops.
Levelling up earnings in the Uk should surely be deemed to be a positive. Therefore I see it as a positive due to Brexit. Why should a job which takes 3 years to qualify for be paid a similar rate as stacking shelves? If paying individuals a fair rate for the job equates to higher supermarket prices then that is a price I am personally prepared to pay. 
I do see your point and somewhat agree with you however what I find despicable is that as these basic items are becoming more expensive the government is taking away £20 a week from the poorest families - plunging hundreds of thousands into poverty. This so that they’re relying on their own hard work and not “welfare” (in the words of the man who got someone else to pay for his home decorations, his childcare and his food!)
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despite the infinite flaws with the free market capitalist society , do you know anyone who has ever decided to leave such a country in the west to enjoy the fruits of a communist country?Ermm I can only think of sam from foel chinese take away , but he went back to his mother country due to family issues ...
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Originally posted by Jones2004 Jones2004 wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Originally posted by dyniol53 dyniol53 wrote:

Issue is training for HGV drivers take 3 years (so I’ve heard) so the idea of pushing up wages doesn’t quite work because the shortage is live (and partially due to Covid).

But yes the overwhelming impression I get from the article is being in the EU allowed us access to cheap labour, lowering prices in the shops.

I’d count that as a downside of Brexit, but then supermarkets having artificially low prices due to abundance foreign labour also disadvantages alternative, more local shops.
Levelling up earnings in the Uk should surely be deemed to be a positive. Therefore I see it as a positive due to Brexit. Why should a job which takes 3 years to qualify for be paid a similar rate as stacking shelves? If paying individuals a fair rate for the job equates to higher supermarket prices then that is a price I am personally prepared to pay. 
I do see your point and somewhat agree with you however what I find despicable is that as these basic items are becoming more expensive the government is taking away £20 a week from the poorest families - plunging hundreds of thousands into poverty. This so that they’re relying on their own hard work and not “welfare” (in the words of the man who got someone else to pay for his home decorations, his childcare and his food!)

Totally agree with you Jones2004. Government seem to think that poverty is somehow a life choice. For every benefit cheat there are a 1000 genuine hard working people struggling. We should, as a society & part of one of the richest countries on the planet, be ashamed at the numbers we have in poverty. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote bills burr Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 August 2021 at 5:16pm
Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Originally posted by Jones2004 Jones2004 wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Originally posted by dyniol53 dyniol53 wrote:

Issue is training for HGV drivers take 3 years (so I’ve heard) so the idea of pushing up wages doesn’t quite work because the shortage is live (and partially due to Covid).

But yes the overwhelming impression I get from the article is being in the EU allowed us access to cheap labour, lowering prices in the shops.

I’d count that as a downside of Brexit, but then supermarkets having artificially low prices due to abundance foreign labour also disadvantages alternative, more local shops.
Levelling up earnings in the Uk should surely be deemed to be a positive. Therefore I see it as a positive due to Brexit. Why should a job which takes 3 years to qualify for be paid a similar rate as stacking shelves? If paying individuals a fair rate for the job equates to higher supermarket prices then that is a price I am personally prepared to pay. 
I do see your point and somewhat agree with you however what I find despicable is that as these basic items are becoming more expensive the government is taking away £20 a week from the poorest families - plunging hundreds of thousands into poverty. This so that they’re relying on their own hard work and not “welfare” (in the words of the man who got someone else to pay for his home decorations, his childcare and his food!)

Totally agree with you Jones2004. Government seem to think that poverty is somehow a life choice. For every benefit cheat there are a 1000 genuine hard working people struggling. We should, as a society & part of one of the richest countries on the planet, be ashamed at the numbers we have in poverty. 

Can you back up that 1000 to 1 ratio?
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The answer of course is to pay drivers more but this has a knock on effect everywehere else, from the cost of busing kids to school (that will make a dent in the education budget) through to the cost of delivering petrol to the pump and everything in between.  Another great Brexit bonus.
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