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GPR - Rochester
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Give Winston a break lads he is surely entitled to his opinion. He's paid his money to follow the Scarlets and is free to say what he wants - he didn't say anything controversial surely. Our leadership in general has been poor & only improved in my mind when Scott or Barclay were leading.
Ken's committment to the cause is unquestionable but that doesn't absolve him from mistakes in leadership. AWJ would have taken those penalties and I wouldn't have fancied any coaches chances of overruling him. He has a feel for the game as he is in the middle of the action.
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NeylandAllBlack
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Didn't take you long to turn. |
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Winston
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And I’ve turned why. Because some on here don’t like what is staring them in the face |
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Winston
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And just for the record I will be at PYS next week and the coming weeks come what may. Even though I have to swap shifts at work and have a two hour round trip. Oh and I didn’t leave early I just express my opinion. I do admit to not being one eyed.
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gnasher1975
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I don't think anyone has an issue with you taking issue with the fact we turned down kicks, i am on the same mind as you, the issue is the way you expressed it. your post a few posts later explained perfectly how you felt...without the personal attack.
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Winston
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Thank you for recognising that. I realise that as a newbie I haven’t yet earned the right to criticise anything Scarlets and perhaps I should cease to post for a couple of seasons until that right has been earned Many others have criticised Ken but not been pilloried. I stand corrected and apologise to the forum
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Owen111
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Not sure why you would take 3pts with no kicker
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ap sior
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The points being referred to were in front of the posts early second half when Dan was on the pitch. |
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SA14
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Beware this place for speaking your mind. |
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Winston
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I’m just watching the match on S4C. Painful
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EssexTurk
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Same here. Utterly depressing. |
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M.M.
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It is, isn't it. For me losing scrum possession about 10 metres from their line on 55 minutes was the turning point.
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LLANDRE
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That's what's wrong with modern rugby. Players should have the autonomy to make decisions themselves. I think Ken should have ignored Flanagan. Ken is the captain.
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West is Best (Fin gwybod)
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Wasp
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The boss is the boss. If Pivac sends an instruction then the players have to carry it out
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We're still still here, but I wish we were in an Anglo-Welsh
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LLANDRE
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Sorry but I disagree. Ken is on the pitch. I've seen lots of occasions in international sport that this happens. I take what your saying Wasp but I think in certain instances the captain should make the call
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West is Best (Fin gwybod)
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supertaf
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My main issue was why he didn't chew Nigel about the hand in the ruck that led to the Lloyd Williams try. It was obvious !
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