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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sosban bach Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 December 2018 at 4:29pm
Getting rid of jackman seems to have helped the dragons
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If you accuse you need to name names.
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I was there in the chippy but I'm not going to name names as it doesn't make a difference who it was. Any answers to my questions, or are you more interested in gossip?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote NeylandAllBlack Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 December 2018 at 4:36pm
Originally posted by greypower1 greypower1 wrote:

If you accuse you need to name names.


No he doesn't.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote greypower1 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 December 2018 at 4:39pm
Originally posted by NeylandAllBlack NeylandAllBlack wrote:

Originally posted by greypower1 greypower1 wrote:

If you accuse you need to name names.


No he doesn't.

He's a troll then and not deserving of being believed.
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Chipgate.
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Originally posted by dr_martinov dr_martinov wrote:

Chipgate.


#SausageGate.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote EJPT Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 December 2018 at 4:44pm
Fish and chips are hardly gonna cost us 30 points.

I’ve seen players have a skinfull and play with more conviction and heart than was on show against the blues.
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Originally posted by royboi72 royboi72 wrote:

My take of it all is that Pivac has lost the dressing room since it was announced he was leaving at the end of the season, resulting in some players displaying a "couldn't be bothered" attitude in many games this season.

Do the players who “can’t be bothered” have aspirations to play for Wales? That would be pretty foolish attitude if they do.

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You've decided to call me a troll for asking a serious question rather than give a sensible reply.  How grown up of you.  I was there, you weren't, therefore if there's a troll around here, you should look closer to home.
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My point was the lack of professional attitude shown by one player, and if that attitude runs through the whole squad.
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Originally posted by royboi72 royboi72 wrote:


<div style=": transparent; -: none; border-bottom-color: rgb0, 0, 0; border-bottom-style: none; border-bottom-width: 0px; border--outset: 0; border--repeat: stretch; border--slice: 100%; border--source: none; border--width: 1; border-left-color: rgb0, 0, 0; border-left-style: none; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-color: rgb0, 0, 0; border-right-style: none; border-right-width: 0px; border-top-color: rgb0, 0, 0; border-top-style: none; border-top-width: 0px; color: rgb0, 0, 0; font-family: Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: 16.8px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; orphans: 2; text-align: left; text-decoration: none; text-indent: 0px; text-trans: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;">Is it the fault of the coaches when a senior player in a key position decides to have fish bites, chips and a battered sausage from a chippy less than 24 hours before a game? Or is it a lack of professionalism from a player likely to be earning more in a month than I do in a year?  Is this lack of professionalism an issue throughout the squad?<div style=": transparent; -: none; border-bottom-color: rgb0, 0, 0; border-bottom-style: none; border-bottom-width: 0px; border--outset: 0; border--repeat: stretch; border--slice: 100%; border--source: none; border--width: 1; border-left-color: rgb0, 0, 0; border-left-style: none; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-color: rgb0, 0, 0; border-right-style: none; border-right-width: 0px; border-top-color: rgb0, 0, 0; border-top-style: none; border-top-width: 0px; color: rgb0, 0, 0; font-family: Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: 16.8px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; orphans: 2; text-align: left; text-decoration: none; text-indent: 0px; text-trans: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;"><br style=": transparent; -: none; border-bottom-color: rgb0, 0, 0; border-bottom-style: none; border-bottom-width: 0px; border--outset: 0; border--repeat: stretch; border--slice: 100%; border--source: none; border--width: 1; border-left-color: rgb0, 0, 0; border-left-style: none; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-color: rgb0, 0, 0; border-right-style: none; border-right-width: 0px; border-top-color: rgb0, 0, 0; border-top-style: none; border-top-width: 0px; color: rgb0, 0, 0; font-family: Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 12px; font-weight: 400; line-height: 16.8px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"><div style=": transparent; -: none; border-bottom-color: rgb0, 0, 0; border-bottom-style: none; border-bottom-width: 0px; border--outset: 0; border--repeat: stretch; border--slice: 100%; border--source: none; border--width: 1; border-left-color: rgb0, 0, 0; border-left-style: none; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-color: rgb0, 0, 0; border-right-style: none; border-right-width: 0px; border-top-color: rgb0, 0, 0; border-top-style: none; border-top-width: 0px; color: rgb0, 0, 0; font-family: Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: 16.8px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; orphans: 2; text-align: left; text-decoration: none; text-indent: 0px; text-trans: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;">My take of it all is that Pivac has lost the dressing room since it was announced he was leaving at the end of the season, resulting in some players displaying a "couldn't be bothered" attitude in many games this season.  Lose next weekend and Pivac should offer his resignation. It's then up to the WRU whether they want to continue with their plan.<div style=": transparent; -: none; border-bottom-color: rgb0, 0, 0; border-bottom-style: none; border-bottom-width: 0px; border--outset: 0; border--repeat: stretch; border--slice: 100%; border--source: none; border--width: 1; border-left-color: rgb0, 0, 0; border-left-style: none; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-color: rgb0, 0, 0; border-right-style: none; border-right-width: 0px; border-top-color: rgb0, 0, 0; border-top-style: none; border-top-width: 0px; color: rgb0, 0, 0; font-family: Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: 16.8px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; orphans: 2; text-align: left; text-decoration: none; text-indent: 0px; text-trans: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;"><br style=": transparent; -: none; border-bottom-color: rgb0, 0, 0; 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word-spacing: 0px;">Lots of questions for a first post, can't wait for the replies! 


That’s ridiculous. He will be the International boss of most of them in 6 months when he takes over Wales coach! They will be desperate to keep in his favour.The lack of calm judgement on some of these posts is shocking. Also do you seriously think Pivac and Stevo aren’t very keen to go out on a high and are switching off ?! That’s insulting to both especially Llanelli legend Stephens Jones. We have been decimated by key player losses and injuries coupled with loss of confidence.Let’s get a common sense grip folks.
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Aren't you allowed to eat 24hrs before a match?
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Originally posted by BlackwoodScarlet BlackwoodScarlet wrote:

Aren't you allowed to eat 24hrs before a match?
 

Of course, but filling up with stodge?  Don't think the dieticians and coaches would be too happy?
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Originally posted by 157cb 157cb wrote:

Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:

Forwards have always set the platform for wins in rugby matches and we did well despite our relatively small pack in last 2-3 years due to the skills of John Barclay and then Beirne plus a largely fit forward squad. We have lost them for ever and then Cubby was off long term and Shingler so more huge blows especially on turnovers. And then you add Jake Ball !

We then lose Cummins and Blade for a while when we are already ravaged. This also ignores “routine “ injuries to other back players such as Prydie and Jon Evans and in the forwards,Samson etc . Cassiem has been poor. It’s hardly surprising we have gone back. The Cardiff back 5 were bigger than ours as well. We need to beef up the pack as a priority which means £ £. So many reasons .

Then the 10 playmaker role where the coaches plainly are worried on Dans defensive level ( as the Blues try quickly illustrated that concern. So many issues have arisen ...We all need to calm down and rebuild .
 
 
 Injuries are crippling us, but we had 70% possession and territory last night had enough ball to win the game twice over and same against the Ospreys so the pack have done there job .
surely that is coaching mark? don't agree with thread though.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ladram Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 December 2018 at 5:19pm
Originally posted by scarletnut scarletnut wrote:

Originally posted by Tim Opolis Tim Opolis wrote:

Yeah let's sack the next Welsh coach and sour future relations with him
making ourselves the laughing stock of world rugby. And while we're at
it, let's sack the greatest Scarlet of the pro era?

Congratulations Speedy on the most embarrassing thread in the history of Scarlet Fever.

I'm sure your not alone though Parc Y Scarlets must be littered with dummies today, spat out by the booers last night. Grow a pair ffs and show some dignity.

Ive had enough already today. Its bad enough losing our home record like that but to have this hysterical reaction is pathetic.
Spot on mate whilst I understand the anger and frustration this thread is an ill informed embarrassment.
really?tell that to your editor or that shrimp Howell.
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