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GPR - Rochester
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You talk a lot of sense but the player wage bands with salary caps is the wrong way forward. Why do we seek to stop inter region transfers? The 60 cap rule is also nonsense. I would argue that Rhys Webb has shown far more loyalty to Welsh regional rugby than either of Liam Williams or Taulupe Faletau. Lets take a current example of the flaws in this wage band system. Davies the Ospreys 10 who is out of contract this season. The Ospreys will offer him the top of his wage band say. The Scarlets may be interested in him and he may want a fresh challenge playing a more running passing game because that is the way he sees himself getting back in the Welsh team but he cannot be enticed by the Scarlets because they are restricted by the band system. Exeter come calling & offer him £50k per year more. Davies gone to England and Wales lose the services of yet another quality player. Well run regions do not need the WRU to organise their wage bands or indeed make decisions on how much they are prepared to pay individual players. Some players are worth more to one region than another - that is common sense. Aled leaving us last season was a no brainer. He became 1st choice 9 and probably picked up more as he was deemed 2nd/3rd choice with us. That is the way of the commercial world and no artificially imposed wage banding system will change that fact. If the WRU are worried by a lack of professionalism in the management of some regions then work with those regions to improve things. Don't attempt a one size fits all banding system which will only create more problems.
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NobbySosban
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They had to pick some criteria for selection, and arrived at this after lots of round table discussion. Wage bands are an attempt to control and structure budgets to work within the strategy - no solution will be free of potential issues, risks or constraints, but it's about trying to plan a way through the short- and medium-term challenges facing the pro game in Wales, and has been decided in consensus. Have to give it a chance to work and evolve, imho.
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GPR - Rochester
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Why did they have to pick any criteria? The Scarlets management appear to be able to run our finances effectively. Project Reset was announced amid a huge fanfare promising more money for the regions so that they could compete more effectively. Well I haven't seen any more money only a pretty amateurish moving the deckchairs around whilst delaying the recruitment & retention of playing personnel for the 2019/20 season. It will only take one high profile player announcing that he is not prepared to wait any longer for the security of a contract for next season for this whole mess to implode.
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NobbySosban
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the 60 cap thing is a carrot to encourage top players to stay here for x amount of years then have the choice to go abroad after that....however the other nations seem to offer more financial rewards to stay , tax breaks , testimonials etc we dont seem to do so much of them ever since the legendary ieuan evans gig
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to me, 60 is way too low. a top player could still leave wales in their prime years. To me a financial reward to go with milestone caps would be better. So a 50 cap reward, 75 cap reward, 100 cap reward. so potentially, a player could receive 3 rewards if they stay in Wales and reach the 100 cap mark.
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Play for Wales, Play in Wales.
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I’m rejuvenated by the new trajectory and partnership building of the WRU. Just that I feel they are re-hashing things within an old framework. They have a budget constraint, and competing with market rates that they can’t influence...so until they can compete I see no virtue in leveraging the value of a cap against that market force. There’s little chance it will have the desired impact, and could well accelerate departures as I said. Fundamentally I’d love to see the ‘to play for Wales you must play in Wales’ track to a workable solution...restriction of earnings is unlikely to be a catalyst to attain that. Just my view. |
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But they are sticking by it which is why I believe Rhys will be coming back to play in Wales. No fix about this at all is there? |
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Yes they are sticking to it at the moment as the only player affected is Rhys. Lets see what happens if Liam, Josh Adams & Francis refuse to return to Wales or guys like Rob Evans, Samson, Anscombe & Jake decide to move for the money. I do not understand why the WRU decided to take such a hard stance - why not copy the Irish system & make it abundantly clear that in all but exceptional cicrcumstances playing outside Wales means you do not play for Wales. As I have stated before this rule is meant to reward loyalty. Rhys has been far more loyal to Welsh rugby than either Faletau or Liam yet is penalised. Total nonsense in my opinion.
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