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roy munster
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Posted: 06 November 2019 at 6:36am |
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Agreed. we all knew biggar and the kick it away strategy would only take us so far then ultimately fail. |
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GPR - Rochester
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Fair comment. What worries me is that Gats' selections sometimes don't make the greatest sense. He knew when he selected his squad that Biggar was going to be No 1 10. That defined his gameplan - kick & chase game with big gainline defence. Who was the best centre in Wales to play at 12 with that plan - Jamie Roberts, Scott & Hadleigh in that order. He decided to take 3 centres - always a gamble so who does he pick - two players who have never played at 13 at International level and leaves behind one guy who is vastly experienced and has played loads of high profile rugby at 12 & 13 : Scott. Pretty clueless really & before anyone says it Scott went on all the pre tournament training & has played every game so far for the Ospreys so I don't buy the lack of form or fitness reasons. That one positional decision probably, with the way things panned out, cost us the semi final. Our total reluctance to use the ball through the hands was mystifying to say the least. Gatland has done great service to Welsh rugby that is a fact but he has only taken us so far. We do not possess the power game of South Africa, France or England but we do have attacking flair which we rarely use - Patchell, Foxy, Liam & Adams need to be given licence to attack & then we can use the skills and fitness of guys like Wainwright & Tipuric. A fit & firing Faletau would be the best present Pivac could hope for come the 6 nations - then he has to be bold in his selection at 10.
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dr_martinov
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Foxy and Hadleigh did their best while carrying injuries that affected their performances. Don't hang me out to dry on this, but I think those injuries (or playing off Biggar at 10) have made a difference for Foxy at international level and he doesn't seem the same post-Lions tour. BUT his defensive work and how he organises those around him is vital for Wales and probably not noticed by many. Centres are definitely a position where we (Wales) want to see people come through in, and we could have done with a more attacking option this world cup for me, nothing wrong in saying that.
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GPR - Rochester
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There really are some muppets around. Does anyone really think these boys are not allowed to have bad games.
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Sosban bach
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Cubby was better than tips v the ab’s But you’ll never be allowed to say such things. It’s always an anti scarlet agenda
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aber-fan
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Why? What is wrong with these people? Cubby did pretty well overall at the RWC, and Foxy had to play on one leg and was still tidy. (In passing - I'd always look to praise players turning out for Wales rather than knock them, no matter what region they represent. And if someone has a mare - as did Amos - I'm always pleased to see a much improved performance next time out.)
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BlackwoodScarlet
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There seems to be alot of hate for cubby on wales online comments even one calling for foxy to be dropped from international rugby as well
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ChrisX
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Tex has also arrived!!
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I still wake up late at night and think of what might have been when tim stimpson hit that jammy penalty1
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Wil Chips
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Sorry, I don’t know, and these are my understandings.
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KID A
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Thanks, So those available and fit enough will play a friendly against the Barbarians instead of a crucial league game in Ulster? |
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Wil Chips
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I’d suggest there is a 4-6 hiatus for the likes of Ken, Cawdor, Parkes, Foxy, Wyn and a couple of others,
The likes of Elias has played 3-4 games this year, and there is little in the way of value in him having a month or more off. Patch, Cubby, Shingler, Hpenny, Thomson are somewhere in between. |
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KID A
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How does that work for the very important match Wales have on 30 November? Which is also the weekend we play Ulster away? |
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greypower1
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Does that mean the WRU pick up the wages tab for their enforced break? Ryan Elias must be bursting for a game after months of recovery and training. Also Shingler after a season injured. The Scots are getting back into the Pro14 and you can bet the fringe England players will be turning out for their clubs in two weeks time.
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Keep the faith
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Legendinmybathroom
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I found it interesting that Wales showed far more enterprise in the first half than they had throughout the World Cup, and had quite a bit of success from it, they showed how to move the ball wide after going through a few phases of play and how to create space for the wide players.
However, as the substitutions were made in the second half and we included more of the established players, we gradually returned to the same old possession based game, going through phase after phase without gaining many yards and without looking to spread it wide, making it easy for NZ to defend. I’d like to thank Gatland for producing a winning environment and would like to wish Wayne all the best in building on Gatland’s legacy and hopefully adding to it, by getting this set of players to play what’s in front of them and using the ball more efficiently and wisely.
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