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Rob o'r Bont
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Miaow mate, take it from me and a few others who know better than I do - Parkes was brought in as a centre more in the Jamie Roberts mold than Gavin Henson. There was a certain Scott Williams playing 12 at the time so he was unlikley to nail the position down; but that's what he was and is - a 12.
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Dic Penderyn
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Owen was always viewed as an utility back,didn't leave until 2017.Above all else,Parkes was Pivac's man-someone he knew and trusted in a new and-to begin with-probably hostile environment.I'm bored with this now tbh.What should be talking about is Parkes'present,not his past.
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Rob take it from - don't waste your time. I agree with you 100% & frankly I cannot think of anyone in the Scarlets current squad who could be classed as a utility back. For clarity that means to me someone who is proficient enough in more than 2 positions to be considered as a starter in that role. My best option - Asquith. Of course James Hook took the term to another level able to play at test level at 10, 12, 13 & 15 which is one hell of an achievement.
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Sosban89
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Utility players aren't really a thing anymore. Professional sport seems to make that role redundant (happened with football too). With expanding budgets, you don't need to pay someone to do two jobs ok. You get two people who do the job well.
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SospanMawr
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Are they creative? Do they “move the ball through the hands to put the wing away”? (As if pro rugby is anywhere near that simple). No. But I can recall at least two tries we’ve scored from Steff Hughes’ kicking game. You can’t actually believe the bit in bold? I can’t think of many players who have contributed for us this year who didn’t get significant age grade honours. Wyn Jones is the exception.
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ScarletBear
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Parkes is a 12, no doubt.
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ScarletBear
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Its more relevant in a World Cup, I'll give you that, but they still exist. Pivac looking at Hill as a 5/6 option. Holmes and Amos as a 11/14/15. Farrell as a 10/12. Wyn Jones as 1/3 - not best example granted.
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Wait for it, I'm sure Miaow would like the last word !!
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John
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It's happened in the last three World Cups although injuries have been a major factor and got all the blame. Definitely something that needs a bit of a rethink before the next world cup.
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LLANDRE
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Agree to disagree springs to mind!!
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miaow
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That's not what I've seen. The stats support that. Utility back in the first season (only missed first 3 months, so not halfway through, played the other 6 months), then started the 15/16 season as a winger again with Owen at 12, before Owen get demoted to wing and then bench and then out of the 23 with Parkes taking over the 12 shirt with Scott injured. Next season, title winning season, played 12 and 13. If Wayne sat down and signed Parkes to be a Jamie Roberts for the Scarlets back in 2014, it's strange how he barely used him that way until injury and then Gatland forced the issue. I have to be honest, despite what you say, I don't see it. Parkes was probably signed as a centre who could fill in and do a job around the backline as a bonus, and ultimately replace Regan King as a more solid option. But signed as a 12? In the way he's being used now? Back in 2014? It's strange it took 3 years for that to happen tbh - and coincided with him qualifying for Wales...
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miaow
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I wish you hadn't wasted your time tbh. Asquith is obviously a utility back. In fact, wasn't it you who said that earlier? Apologies if not, but would explain that you're just making it up as you go along tbh.
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miaow
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Now? Yes. And barely tbh, particularly for Wales. He's hanging on to a test career in all honesty. 4 years ago? No.
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Rob o'r Bont
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Having been to Reading at the weekend, a few will have noticed the Oracle.
In case you didn’t travel there, or notice it on the prevalent cloud nine mood, it’s a building/landmark and is widely signposted. It would be good to be able to ask the Oracle, a currently lapsed poster on here. He was the font of much knowledge.
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Why are we wasting so much money on Brad Mooar and his colleagues when there are so many wonderful coaches who already support the Scarlets ? Go on . . . apply for Brad's position and sack the rest . . . . . think of the money we could save our wonderful club with such wonderful coaching talent already on our doorstep. The silverware that we could win would need a stadium of its own !
Noticeably, these latent coaches are also the ones who spout excessive amounts of vitriol, when we lose, 3 games on the bounce at the beginning of the season !!!! And decry an apology for their moaning, when things suddenly look wonderfully rosy, expecting a full warm welcome into the fold, as if their complaints will be forgotten. They do indeed have vast amounts of rugby knowledge and an even more excessive amount of hot air !!!!!! And obviously too much time on their hands !! (They [and we all] know who they are . . . . . they'll be the ones vehemently criticising my post, demanding of the 'guardians of Scarlet Fever' that the post be removed or that it is in the wrong 'section' and should be isolated in some other, more obscure corner of the site !) You're giving me a headache. Go take the dog for a walk, stop moaning and enjoy the success. We're doing well. Keep supporting them and see what happens.
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