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Posted: 30 January 2020 at 3:09pm |
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CVC will push for a b&I league, will push for PPV rugby (certainly no more free to air games ) and will imo look to get either japan or SA into an extended 6 nations That is just my guess though |
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Posted: 31 January 2020 at 10:32am |
RR1972 wrote:
CVC will push for a b&I league, will push for PPV rugby (certainly no more free to air games ) and will imo look to get either japan or SA into an extended 6 nations That is just my guess though | thats already the case. Only in Wales I believe we still show, although limited, a pro league. Everything is either on Sky, BT or Premier - all ppv/subsription. not much to push there.
Even Amazon Prime coming in to sport now testing the water on boxing day when they showed ALL boxing day Prem football fixtures.
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Posted: 31 January 2020 at 10:45am |
I just think there's too many balls to juggle for a B&I league.
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Posted: 31 January 2020 at 10:58am |
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I just think there's too many balls to juggle for a B&I league. |
it would also IMO make a European Cup pointless. i cant see them wanting one...UNLESS a global league is created. Super Rugby North and Super Rugby South with playoffs to be North v South - similar to Rugby League World Club Championship.
For me, first steps will be Anglo Welsh. Irish wont go for B&I as control will be out of their hands. If that takes off, CVC will look to grow. whether that will be a new tournament that may be more lucrative than the european cup...who knows.
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Posted: 31 January 2020 at 12:24pm |
PE SA wrote:
Gate12 wrote:
I just think there's too many balls to juggle for a B&I league. |
it would also IMO make a European Cup pointless. i cant see them wanting one...UNLESS a global league is created. Super Rugby North and Super Rugby South with playoffs to be North v South - similar to Rugby League World Club Championship.
For me, first steps will be Anglo Welsh. Irish wont go for B&I as control will be out of their hands. If that takes off, CVC will look to grow. whether that will be a new tournament that may be more lucrative than the european cup...who knows.
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Can't agree about the European cups - they must get very big crowds and viewing figures.
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Posted: 31 January 2020 at 12:30pm |
aber-fan wrote:
PE SA wrote:
Gate12 wrote:
I just think there's too many balls to juggle for a B&I league. |
it would also IMO make a European Cup pointless. i cant see them wanting one...UNLESS a global league is created. Super Rugby North and Super Rugby South with playoffs to be North v South - similar to Rugby League World Club Championship.
For me, first steps will be Anglo Welsh. Irish wont go for B&I as control will be out of their hands. If that takes off, CVC will look to grow. whether that will be a new tournament that may be more lucrative than the european cup...who knows.
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Can't agree about the European cups - they must get very big crowds and viewing figures. |
Yes they do...but if a league was made where Welsh, Scottish, Irish, English, Italians was made...only the French are out of it. so the league is like the european cup minus the french. is there a point in having both?
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Posted: 31 January 2020 at 1:25pm |
PE SA wrote:
aber-fan wrote:
PE SA wrote:
Gate12 wrote:
I just think there's too many balls to juggle for a B&I league. |
it would also IMO make a European Cup pointless. i cant see them wanting one...UNLESS a global league is created. Super Rugby North and Super Rugby South with playoffs to be North v South - similar to Rugby League World Club Championship.
For me, first steps will be Anglo Welsh. Irish wont go for B&I as control will be out of their hands. If that takes off, CVC will look to grow. whether that will be a new tournament that may be more lucrative than the european cup...who knows.
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Can't agree about the European cups - they must get very big crowds and viewing figures. | Yes they do...but if a league was made where Welsh, Scottish, Irish, English, Italians was made...only the French are out of it. so the league is like the european cup minus the french. is there a point in having both?
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You seem to be contradicting yourself - re-read what you said about the Irish.
In any case, I don't see how a league featuring all the nations you mention could work - there would be too many games.
Plus, I can't see anyone deliberately withdrawing from a tournament that permits games against teams such as Racing 92, Clermont, Toulouse and Toulon.
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Posted: 31 January 2020 at 1:36pm |
aber-fan wrote:
PE SA wrote:
aber-fan wrote:
PE SA wrote:
Gate12 wrote:
I just think there's too many balls to juggle for a B&I league. |
it would also IMO make a European Cup pointless. i cant see them wanting one...UNLESS a global league is created. Super Rugby North and Super Rugby South with playoffs to be North v South - similar to Rugby League World Club Championship.
For me, first steps will be Anglo Welsh. Irish wont go for B&I as control will be out of their hands. If that takes off, CVC will look to grow. whether that will be a new tournament that may be more lucrative than the european cup...who knows.
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Can't agree about the European cups - they must get very big crowds and viewing figures. | Yes they do...but if a league was made where Welsh, Scottish, Irish, English, Italians was made...only the French are out of it. so the league is like the european cup minus the french. is there a point in having both?
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You seem to be contradicting yourself - re-read what you said about the Irish.
In any case, I don't see how a league featuring all the nations you mention could work - there would be too many games.
Plus, I can't see anyone deliberately withdrawing from a tournament that permits games against teams such as Racing 92, Clermont, Toulouse and Toulon. |
One system which would work would be to someway replicate how the NFL works. You have your divison of 4 local teams (so the 4 welsh teams). then the rest of your fixtures are a schedule of other teams in the league. That way you don't have to play them all.
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Posted: 31 January 2020 at 1:50pm |
Sosban89 wrote:
aber-fan wrote:
PE SA wrote:
aber-fan wrote:
PE SA wrote:
Gate12 wrote:
I just think there's too many balls to juggle for a B&I league. |
it would also IMO make a European Cup pointless. i cant see them wanting one...UNLESS a global league is created. Super Rugby North and Super Rugby South with playoffs to be North v South - similar to Rugby League World Club Championship.
For me, first steps will be Anglo Welsh. Irish wont go for B&I as control will be out of their hands. If that takes off, CVC will look to grow. whether that will be a new tournament that may be more lucrative than the european cup...who knows.
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Can't agree about the European cups - they must get very big crowds and viewing figures. | Yes they do...but if a league was made where Welsh, Scottish, Irish, English, Italians was made...only the French are out of it. so the league is like the european cup minus the french. is there a point in having both?
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You seem to be contradicting yourself - re-read what you said about the Irish.
In any case, I don't see how a league featuring all the nations you mention could work - there would be too many games.
Plus, I can't see anyone deliberately withdrawing from a tournament that permits games against teams such as Racing 92, Clermont, Toulouse and Toulon. |
One system which would work would be to someway replicate how the NFL works. You have your divison of 4 local teams (so the 4 welsh teams). then the rest of your fixtures are a schedule of other teams in the league. That way you don't have to play them all. |
That's true, but we had a big song and dance when the pro-14 switched to two conferences, so I'm sure that would face even more opposition! (I was OK with it, BTW.)
My other point will stand regardless - do we (Scarlets), and the supporters of other clubs really want to ditch fixtures with the huge French clubs, and the atmosphere at those games?
I don't, for one.
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Posted: 31 January 2020 at 3:54pm |
If the Irish don't fancy a British & Irish league what are they going to do?
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Posted: 31 January 2020 at 5:11pm |
aber-fan wrote:
Sosban89 wrote:
aber-fan wrote:
PE SA wrote:
aber-fan wrote:
PE SA wrote:
Gate12 wrote:
I just think there's too many balls to juggle for a B&I league. |
it would also IMO make a European Cup pointless. i cant see them wanting one...UNLESS a global league is created. Super Rugby North and Super Rugby South with playoffs to be North v South - similar to Rugby League World Club Championship.
For me, first steps will be Anglo Welsh. Irish wont go for B&I as control will be out of their hands. If that takes off, CVC will look to grow. whether that will be a new tournament that may be more lucrative than the european cup...who knows.
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Can't agree about the European cups - they must get very big crowds and viewing figures. | Yes they do...but if a league was made where Welsh, Scottish, Irish, English, Italians was made...only the French are out of it. so the league is like the european cup minus the french. is there a point in having both?
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You seem to be contradicting yourself - re-read what you said about the Irish.
In any case, I don't see how a league featuring all the nations you mention could work - there would be too many games.
Plus, I can't see anyone deliberately withdrawing from a tournament that permits games against teams such as Racing 92, Clermont, Toulouse and Toulon. |
One system which would work would be to someway replicate how the NFL works. You have your divison of 4 local teams (so the 4 welsh teams). then the rest of your fixtures are a schedule of other teams in the league. That way you don't have to play them all. |
That's true, but we had a big song and dance when the pro-14 switched to two conferences, so I'm sure that would face even more opposition! (I was OK with it, BTW.)
My other point will stand regardless - do we (Scarlets), and the supporters of other clubs really want to ditch fixtures with the huge French clubs, and the atmosphere at those games?
I don't, for one. |
Add me to that as well
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