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henry_winkler
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I lost count the number of times we conceded over 29/30 points under Edwards defence, that last six Nations our defence was on point, possibly down to the other teams not turning up. Time to move on, barring a silly intercept pass we'd have won that.
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Mogwen
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Your right. Under Gatland we played 151 games, and on 41 occadions we shipped 25 points or more. 29% of games. Wikipidia stats. |
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henry_winkler
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That's pretty impressive. Of course, I'm not saying he's a bad coach before I get jumped on. Just saying he wasn't perfect either even though the spangly cowgirl hat brigade think otherwise. |
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reesytheexile
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Fine margins. Two errors by us and two France tries !
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Legendinmybathroom
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My concern is that we have lost 2 games in a row in one 6 nations championship for the first time in many many years and have also conceded 7 tries in those 2 games. Under Edwards we would expect to only concede 7 tries a season not in half a season.
Some of today’s play reminds me of the Scarlets, plenty of possession but white line fever amongst the forwards and a reluctance from the scrum half move the ball away from the forwards when the time is right to do so.
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scarletnut
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I still wake up late at night and think of what might have been when tim stimpson hit that jammy penalty1
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Sosban89
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This 6 nations was always likely to be a right off. If Pivac really does want to alter the style of play then you can't expect a few training sessions and for it to be working full flow. That being said we should still probably have won today.
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ladram
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last year? steff I admire your loyalty to certain players and ex players but the more time that passes the more the pro 12 winning season looks like us taking teams by surprise and now that the opposition has caught on we look ordinary.
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GPR - Rochester
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Fine margins indeed. I too thought Parkes was our best back by a long way. An exciting game but lets be very honest there was only one winner from the off. The French were streets ahead in terms of playing rugby. They looked alert, full of ideas and well coached. We looked full of huff and puff and pretty clueless. Look at the scrums against 14 just before half time - we had no idea what to do - just like the Scarlets against Edinburgh. Pivac is slowly losing the plot and blaming the ref for mistakes - I agreed by the way with the ref that it was not a clear penalty try. As for Pivac's claim that Bamba was boring in the studio panel had already shown that it was in fact Rob who was boring in and was rightly penalised. For all the stats which may show various pluses for Wales the glaring fact was that from 1-15 the French were way ahead of us as rugby players - more flair, intelligence, awareness of space, pace etc. Our team had nearly 900 caps & it showed - we were slow, ponderous and totally lacking any spark.
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Scarlet Tom
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I do wish Pivac wouldn't get overly involved in blaming refs and others for us losing. Even if the ref did make some wrong decisions it firstly doesn't look good, and secondly distracts from the fact that we still made too many mistakes and couldn't answer the French style of play on the day. The same with Ireland.
As has been mentioned already we should treat this early period with Pivac as a chance to bed his style of play in, bring in the next generation of players and move forward looking towards the next RWC. Easier said than done of course, yet these things always take time. On paper at least we weren't far behind France and it was certainly not a rout - we could have won the game.
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Wil Chips
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Tomkins coming to us, alongside Sanjay, is an attractive prospect.
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ap sior
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We've conceded 7 tries in 3 games, which is the same number as France have conceded in 3 games that they have played.
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turkishrebel
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So is Tompkins def coming to us?
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dr_martinov
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I agree, I think he's got an attacking spark.
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