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    Posted: 28 December 2020 at 7:48pm
Originally posted by Gate12 Gate12 wrote:

It seems to be whoever gets test results back first is punished, haven't paid a great deal of attention to the prem but have there been any cases where the points split has been equal because both teams were severely impacted by covid?


No, but the point split is 4 for the late responders and 2 for the first responders.

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It may be coincidence, however, 
Bath go down with the virus and blame us. They have many more cases than we do.
Leicester Tigers beat Bayonne and then report COVID cases and have Prem matches postponed. Bayonne then suffer and had their match with Castres yesterday, iirc.
London Irish went to France and won, then reported the COVID cases.

There’s another similar incident, although the names of the clubs involved escape me.

So many coincidences.........or maybe astute gamesmanship.
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It seems to be whoever gets test results back first is punished, haven't paid a great deal of attention to the prem but have there been any cases where the points split has been equal because both teams were severely impacted by covid?
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Interesting to see Bath getting awarded 4 pts for the Prem Boxing Day fixture as London Irish’s squad had Covid cases.

I’m starting to think that there’s too much grey in this, and those teams that are more astute will benefit.

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Glasgow's match against Edinburgh, scheduled for the 27th Dec, has been called off due to positive tests in the Glasgow camp.
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Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

Originally posted by Gate12 Gate12 wrote:

Originally posted by Dic Penderyn Dic Penderyn wrote:

Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

Originally posted by Jones2004 Jones2004 wrote:

How are more of their players in isolation than our players? Doesn’t make any sense??


I’m pretty convinced Bath are throwing this.
I know that will be called out as being incorrect.


It certainly looks that way.


It may be to do with timings around testing but 12 players doesn't sound like enough to cancel the game, Bath have got a squad of 40 senior players and 19 academy players so can only guess that a lot of their injuries/isolated players must be in certain positions like frontrow.

The statement I saw did say it was forward orientated injuries.

I'd think you could only cancel if you were lacking the full complement of two front rows - starters and subs. Otherwise, there are many examples of large back row forwards having to fill in at second row (Kalamafoni, Rawlins, Shingler, Kennedy for us, for example)... or indeed the odd hooker having to play at 6. 

If Bath don't have two full front rows (for whatever reason), then fair enough - no problem. If they are ducking a fixture for any other reason, I hope they will be punished.
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Who amongst their squad did Townboy spot out in the pub after the match, in “Xmas Party” mood?
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Originally posted by Gate12 Gate12 wrote:

Originally posted by Dic Penderyn Dic Penderyn wrote:

Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

Originally posted by Jones2004 Jones2004 wrote:

How are more of their players in isolation than our players? Doesn’t make any sense??


I’m pretty convinced Bath are throwing this.
I know that will be called out as being incorrect.


It certainly looks that way.


It may be to do with timings around testing but 12 players doesn't sound like enough to cancel the game, Bath have got a squad of 40 senior players and 19 academy players so can only guess that a lot of their injuries/isolated players must be in certain positions like frontrow.

The statement I saw did say it was forward orientated injuries.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Gate12 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 December 2020 at 9:39am
Originally posted by Dic Penderyn Dic Penderyn wrote:

Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

Originally posted by Jones2004 Jones2004 wrote:

How are more of their players in isolation than our players? Doesn’t make any sense??


I’m pretty convinced Bath are throwing this.
I know that will be called out as being incorrect.


It certainly looks that way.


It may be to do with timings around testing but 12 players doesn't sound like enough to cancel the game, Bath have got a squad of 40 senior players and 19 academy players so can only guess that a lot of their injuries/isolated players must be in certain positions like frontrow.
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Originally posted by scarletsrules scarletsrules wrote:

Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

People on the Bath forum calling for us to have our game called off too, saying we should suffer sanctions. 


Why, that wouldnt be fair on us, not our fault that they arent prepared to throw their academy players into the game, im sure that tom rogers, Morgan Jones, Javan Sebastian, Kemsley mathius, Iestyn Rees, Dan Davis are all academy players for us who are involved against Toulon today

I've got the suspicion that had they have won last week they would have fulfilled the fixture. 
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Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

People on the Bath forum calling for us to have our game called off too, saying we should suffer sanctions. 


Why, that wouldnt be fair on us, not our fault that they arent prepared to throw their academy players into the game, im sure that tom rogers, Morgan Jones, Javan Sebastian, Kemsley mathius, Iestyn Rees, Dan Davis are all academy players for us who are involved against Toulon today
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Originally posted by John John wrote:

No elite sport in N Ireland for 6 weeks from boxing day so no Ulster home games.... This will affect both the champions cup and the pro 14.


Elite game sin NI only banned for 26/12/20-01/01/21, luckily for the pro 14, ulster are away to connacht on the 27th so no home games there will be affected
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Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

People on the Bath forum calling for us to have our game called off too, saying we should suffer sanctions. 

Bad losers. All teams competing were well aware of the rules and repercussions of not completing fixtures. It is the price we all have to pay for getting access to live professional sport. The alternative would be far worse. Will the eventual champions be worthy - you bet they will; will they have enjoyed a little more luck than normal - yes indeed but in 5 years time nobody will remember.
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People on the Bath forum calling for us to have our game called off too, saying we should suffer sanctions. 
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Apparently, for Bath, the EPCR said injuries were a factor in the game being called off too.

Either way doesn't look great for the competition. 
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No elite sport in N Ireland for 6 weeks from boxing day so no Ulster home games.... This will affect both the champions cup and the pro 14.
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