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Originally posted by scarletnut scarletnut wrote:

Originally posted by Mugwuffin Mugwuffin wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

We were clearly the second best side in that world cup.

The only side that has beat us with no problems has been the all blacks, every other game has gone down to one score
When you look at the shambles he picked up from Gypo he has done a great job, attempts to say otherwise just don't make sense

The stuffing Australia gave us in the 3rd/4th place playoff suggests we weren't clearly the second best. I agree we should've beaten France in the semi.

Gatland was given better resources than Jenkins. How do you think Gatland would've done had the WRU told him he had to have Rowland Phillips, someone who had never coached at pro level, as his defence coach rather than Shaun Edwards?
What stuffing to Australia? It was a narrow loss! They lost 21-18. Look Jenkins messed up, he wasn't good enough. Gatland with more the less the same group of players won a Grandslam a few short months later! Say's it's own story really doesn't it.

A try in the last play of the game put a gloss on it that we didn't really deserve. We were comprehensively outplayed in the 3rd/4th place match, as we were when Australia beat us in our "homecoming match" a few weeks later. We didn't come close to winning either. 

Gatland probably wouldn't have any Grand Slams, plus a Pool stage RWC exit to his name, had he had Rowland Phillips in charge of defence rather than Edwards. Jenkins would've had a respectable 6 Nations and a RWC QF with Edwards, or Mike Ford, who he asked the WRU to go and get. 
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Originally posted by Mugwuffin Mugwuffin wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

We were clearly the second best side in that world cup.

The only side that has beat us with no problems has been the all blacks, every other game has gone down to one score
When you look at the shambles he picked up from Gypo he has done a great job, attempts to say otherwise just don't make sense

The stuffing Australia gave us in the 3rd/4th place playoff suggests we weren't clearly the second best. I agree we should've beaten France in the semi.

Gatland was given better resources than Jenkins. How do you think Gatland would've done had the WRU told him he had to have Rowland Phillips, someone who had never coached at pro level, as his defence coach rather than Shaun Edwards?


Edwards wouldn't have worked under Jenkins.

If you defend Gypo;s record but have a go at Gatland then you can't be serious.

I love Gypo for his time here but the way he ran the welsh camp was laughable, no discipline, players on the lash and tours that have been described by players involved as the world's longest stag night will not cut it at test level.

Wales proably won't win the world cup but the coach has to think we can and I think we can make the final and no matter what anyone says about Gatland style of play.

His record of success proves it works

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Originally posted by Mugwuffin Mugwuffin wrote:

Originally posted by scarletnut scarletnut wrote:

Originally posted by Mugwuffin Mugwuffin wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

We were clearly the second best side in that world cup.

The only side that has beat us with no problems has been the all blacks, every other game has gone down to one score
When you look at the shambles he picked up from Gypo he has done a great job, attempts to say otherwise just don't make sense

The stuffing Australia gave us in the 3rd/4th place playoff suggests we weren't clearly the second best. I agree we should've beaten France in the semi.

Gatland was given better resources than Jenkins. How do you think Gatland would've done had the WRU told him he had to have Rowland Phillips, someone who had never coached at pro level, as his defence coach rather than Shaun Edwards?
What stuffing to Australia? It was a narrow loss! They lost 21-18. Look Jenkins messed up, he wasn't good enough. Gatland with more the less the same group of players won a Grandslam a few short months later! Say's it's own story really doesn't it.

A try in the last play of the game put a gloss on it that we didn't really deserve. We were comprehensively outplayed in the 3rd/4th place match, as we were when Australia beat us in our "homecoming match" a few weeks later. We didn't come close to winning either. 

Gatland probably wouldn't have any Grand Slams, plus a Pool stage RWC exit to his name, had he had Rowland Phillips in charge of defence rather than Edwards. Jenkins would've had a respectable 6 Nations and a RWC QF with Edwards, or Mike Ford, who he asked the WRU to go and get. 
I think that's way off the mark myself.
I still wake up late at night and think of what might have been when tim stimpson hit that jammy penalty1
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Originally posted by Mugwuffin Mugwuffin wrote:

Originally posted by scarletnut scarletnut wrote:

Originally posted by Mugwuffin Mugwuffin wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

We were clearly the second best side in that world cup.

The only side that has beat us with no problems has been the all blacks, every other game has gone down to one score
When you look at the shambles he picked up from Gypo he has done a great job, attempts to say otherwise just don't make sense

The stuffing Australia gave us in the 3rd/4th place playoff suggests we weren't clearly the second best. I agree we should've beaten France in the semi.

Gatland was given better resources than Jenkins. How do you think Gatland would've done had the WRU told him he had to have Rowland Phillips, someone who had never coached at pro level, as his defence coach rather than Shaun Edwards?
What stuffing to Australia? It was a narrow loss! They lost 21-18. Look Jenkins messed up, he wasn't good enough. Gatland with more the less the same group of players won a Grandslam a few short months later! Say's it's own story really doesn't it.

A try in the last play of the game put a gloss on it that we didn't really deserve. We were comprehensively outplayed in the 3rd/4th place match, as we were when Australia beat us in our "homecoming match" a few weeks later. We didn't come close to winning either. 

Gatland probably wouldn't have any Grand Slams, plus a Pool stage RWC exit to his name, had he had Rowland Phillips in charge of defence rather than Edwards. Jenkins would've had a respectable 6 Nations and a RWC QF with Edwards, or Mike Ford, who he asked the WRU to go and get. 
We were beating them with 20 mins to go.
I still wake up late at night and think of what might have been when tim stimpson hit that jammy penalty1
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Originally posted by scarletnut scarletnut wrote:

Originally posted by Mugwuffin Mugwuffin wrote:

Originally posted by scarletnut scarletnut wrote:

Originally posted by Mugwuffin Mugwuffin wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

We were clearly the second best side in that world cup.

The only side that has beat us with no problems has been the all blacks, every other game has gone down to one score
When you look at the shambles he picked up from Gypo he has done a great job, attempts to say otherwise just don't make sense

The stuffing Australia gave us in the 3rd/4th place playoff suggests we weren't clearly the second best. I agree we should've beaten France in the semi.

Gatland was given better resources than Jenkins. How do you think Gatland would've done had the WRU told him he had to have Rowland Phillips, someone who had never coached at pro level, as his defence coach rather than Shaun Edwards?
What stuffing to Australia? It was a narrow loss! They lost 21-18. Look Jenkins messed up, he wasn't good enough. Gatland with more the less the same group of players won a Grandslam a few short months later! Say's it's own story really doesn't it.

A try in the last play of the game put a gloss on it that we didn't really deserve. We were comprehensively outplayed in the 3rd/4th place match, as we were when Australia beat us in our "homecoming match" a few weeks later. We didn't come close to winning either. 

Gatland probably wouldn't have any Grand Slams, plus a Pool stage RWC exit to his name, had he had Rowland Phillips in charge of defence rather than Edwards. Jenkins would've had a respectable 6 Nations and a RWC QF with Edwards, or Mike Ford, who he asked the WRU to go and get. 
We were beating them with 20 mins to go.


If only matches finished after 60 minutes eh?
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Originally posted by TonduTurk TonduTurk wrote:

i wonder if Roger's new contract offer to Gatland was the same deal that Gatland was on in 2008 ?.


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