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Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

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He’s 2 from 5 thats not a win rate. I’d have expected 3 from 5, losing to Glasgow and Toulon away but winning the others. Alas not to be, there needs to be a turnaround in fortunes. Discipline has lost us 3 games, selection we’ll debate until the cows come home but i think we can all agree silly penalties are rife. 


2 games in and we head the league in pens (26).
Up down or sideways that has to change.

As was mentioned last night in the "Coaches" meeting, they are very concerned about it & are looking to cut the penalty rate down to 10 or less

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Wil Chips Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 October 2020 at 7:26am
Yep. There were a few dubious one's on Sunday, but they were in the minority really. Lying on the wrong side/not rolling away was the most obvious one to fix.
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Thought I would take some time before commenting this week. Whichever way you look at it we got again on Sunday exactly what we deserved - nothing. Tactically Wilson had worked us out before kick off. When was the last time did Glasgow elect to play a low tempo kick it out on the full give them the throw in type of game? Our lineout was shocking all the way through. 

Our discipline is woeful. Tempo in attack is stilted and changed when Patchell came on and we were chasing the game. This is not a criticism of Dan by the way as he is playing to the coaches gameplan. There were some plus points, not many but some - thought Rogers, one hand off aside, continues to look at home at this level. Cubby, given some minutes, started to look back to his old self. His ability to get into the wide channels makes him different to Josh & more suited to our best way of playing which, however, is not the way this coaching team set us up to play at the moment. 

Samson was superb and is back to near his best. Steff Evans continues to give 100% & was clearly the most dangerous threequarter on the field. 

Leadership was non existent and I am afraid Foxy looks totally disinterested. On one occasion he just looked on as Cawdor threw himself in front of the try scorer under the posts. It has been said many times that our season structure robs us of our best players consistently. We now enter a two month period without 15 players, with Sam banned (quite rightly 100% red) & Jonny & Aaron long term injured.

I said last week, to much derision, that I felt our coaching team were taking us in the wrong direction of gameplan favouring a forward orientated approach when we don't have a lineout worthy of the name. As yet I have seen nothing which makes me think otherwise. Many posters keep mentioning our last bad start in our title winning year. Of course there are comparisons but the big difference for me is that during that season we tended to lose games because our finishing ability was poor despite creating many chances and our attacking ability at red zone lineouts was poor. 


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Originally posted by M.M. M.M. wrote:

Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

Originally posted by EJPT EJPT wrote:

He’s 2 from 5 thats not a win rate. I’d have expected 3 from 5, losing to Glasgow and Toulon away but winning the others. Alas not to be, there needs to be a turnaround in fortunes. Discipline has lost us 3 games, selection we’ll debate until the cows come home but i think we can all agree silly penalties are rife. 


2 games in and we head the league in pens (26).
Up down or sideways that has to change.

As was mentioned last night in the "Coaches" meeting, they are very concerned about it & are looking to cut the penalty rate down to 10 or less

 
in fairness we play with a 7 that always attacks the ball at the breakdown be it cubby or josh, those type of guys do tend to win a lot of turnovers but also get pinged a lot, that's the trade off I guess
 
Our Line out is a bigger worry for me, we look really shaky there and are missing shingler big time in that area
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Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Originally posted by M.M. M.M. wrote:

Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

Originally posted by EJPT EJPT wrote:

He’s 2 from 5 thats not a win rate. I’d have expected 3 from 5, losing to Glasgow and Toulon away but winning the others. Alas not to be, there needs to be a turnaround in fortunes. Discipline has lost us 3 games, selection we’ll debate until the cows come home but i think we can all agree silly penalties are rife. 


2 games in and we head the league in pens (26).
Up down or sideways that has to change.

As was mentioned last night in the "Coaches" meeting, they are very concerned about it & are looking to cut the penalty rate down to 10 or less

 
in fairness we play with a 7 that always attacks the ball at the breakdown be it cubby or josh, those type of guys do tend to win a lot of turnovers but also get pinged a lot, that's the trade off I guess
 
Our Line out is a bigger worry for me, we look really shaky there and are missing shingler big time in that area

I can't help but feel that the majority of those penalties were given for the tackler not rolling away quick enough. These days you have to show you're making an effort almost as soon as you hit the deck.
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Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Originally posted by M.M. M.M. wrote:

Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

Originally posted by EJPT EJPT wrote:

He’s 2 from 5 thats not a win rate. I’d have expected 3 from 5, losing to Glasgow and Toulon away but winning the others. Alas not to be, there needs to be a turnaround in fortunes. Discipline has lost us 3 games, selection we’ll debate until the cows come home but i think we can all agree silly penalties are rife. 


2 games in and we head the league in pens (26).
Up down or sideways that has to change.

As was mentioned last night in the "Coaches" meeting, they are very concerned about it & are looking to cut the penalty rate down to 10 or less

 
in fairness we play with a 7 that always attacks the ball at the breakdown be it cubby or josh, those type of guys do tend to win a lot of turnovers but also get pinged a lot, that's the trade off I guess
 
Our Line out is a bigger worry for me, we look really shaky there and are missing shingler big time in that area

Yes but we have other forwards who, good players that they are, are constantly getting pinged. Kalamafoni, Ball, Lousi spring to mind.
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Ball is not a great lineout option. Expect more from an established international second row. 
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I'm kind of wishing we were going in for Rowlands....but then again we wouldn't see much of him during the international periods.
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Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Originally posted by M.M. M.M. wrote:

Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

Originally posted by EJPT EJPT wrote:

He’s 2 from 5 thats not a win rate. I’d have expected 3 from 5, losing to Glasgow and Toulon away but winning the others. Alas not to be, there needs to be a turnaround in fortunes. Discipline has lost us 3 games, selection we’ll debate until the cows come home but i think we can all agree silly penalties are rife. 


2 games in and we head the league in pens (26).
Up down or sideways that has to change.

As was mentioned last night in the "Coaches" meeting, they are very concerned about it & are looking to cut the penalty rate down to 10 or less

 
in fairness we play with a 7 that always attacks the ball at the breakdown be it cubby or josh, those type of guys do tend to win a lot of turnovers but also get pinged a lot, that's the trade off I guess
 
Our Line out is a bigger worry for me, we look really shaky there and are missing shingler big time in that area
I’d accept some penalties from players going hard at the breakdown, as you said it’s the trade off. I’d also accept the penalties conceded under pressure less than 10 metres from our line. What is infuriating however is the stupid, mindless, idiotic penalties that we seem to be conceding at an alarming rate, especially when compared to how many of said penalties are conceded from the top teams in the league.
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Ken set to miss 3 - 4 months.
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Josh targeting a return to play in December.
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Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

Ken set to miss 3 - 4 months.


And absolutely no repercussions for the foul that injured him. It's on videotape and if they want to cut out dirty play as well as accidents then there is no reason why the committee/judge that ruled on Lousi cannot penalise the perpetrator. This they have to do, if they are serious about eliminating thuggery from the game.
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