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Billy Vinapaoula now coming out in support of him on twitter (qualified though ) .Lets hope Toby is advised to keep well  out of it as the Tongans and Fijians are pretty religious. Its just the extent of the rant and how he says it about others that will finish him.
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Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:

Billy Vinapaoula now coming out in support of him on twitter (qualified though ) .Lets hope Toby is advised to keep well  out of it as the Tongans and Fijians are pretty religious. Its just the extent of the rant and how he says it about others that will finish him.


David Flatman (who I have come to enjoy as a pundit) shared a screen grab from a journalist asking him to do an interview following Billy V's tweet & he just said "sometimes it's safer to say nothing".
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RFU now want to meet with Billy Vunipola over his support for Folau.

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Unfortunately there’s always going to be someone who is willing to pay Folau ridiculous money to play rugby..
Would imagine there’s some French owners who are eyeing up a cut price deal for him.
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The guy seems full of hate and too eager to hurt with his vile judgements of others, which doesn't really sit well with his pretence to have Christian beliefs. 



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It has been confirmed he has been sacked by the ARU.
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Freedom of speech is dead
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I think you will find that he was in breach of his contractual terms. Clearly he is totally entitled to his personal views which if he kept private would not have resulted in this sanction. He was not entitled to air his views as they were considered detrimental to Rugby Australia & their aspirations of growing their support base. 
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Originally posted by BlackwoodScarlet BlackwoodScarlet wrote:

Freedom of speech is dead
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Originally posted by SospanMawr SospanMawr wrote:

Originally posted by BlackwoodScarlet BlackwoodScarlet wrote:

Freedom of speech is dead
More nonsense.

People arrested for miss gendering people
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Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

I think you will find that he was in breach of his contractual terms. Clearly he is totally entitled to his personal views which if he kept private would not have resulted in this sanction. He was not entitled to air his views as they were considered detrimental to Rugby Australia & their aspirations of growing their support base. 

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Edited by roy munster - 15 April 2019 at 9:18pm
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Originally posted by SospanMawr SospanMawr wrote:

Originally posted by BlackwoodScarlet BlackwoodScarlet wrote:

Freedom of speech is dead
More nonsense.

Did that vile labour MP lose her job over the tweet that the girls who where groomed should shut their mouths for diversity?
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Originally posted by BlackwoodScarlet BlackwoodScarlet wrote:

Originally posted by SospanMawr SospanMawr wrote:

Originally posted by BlackwoodScarlet BlackwoodScarlet wrote:

Freedom of speech is dead
More nonsense.

Did that vile labour MP lose her job over the tweet that the girls who where groomed should shut their mouths for diversity?

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Originally posted by BlackwoodScarlet BlackwoodScarlet wrote:

Originally posted by SospanMawr SospanMawr wrote:

Originally posted by BlackwoodScarlet BlackwoodScarlet wrote:

Freedom of speech is dead
More nonsense.

Did that vile labour MP lose her job over the tweet that the girls who where groomed should shut their mouths for diversity?
I honestly don’t have a clue what you’re on about. Could you send me a link and/or explain the point you’re trying to make?

The fact is, the ARU are his employers. They pay him. If he continually brings their business into disrepute, costs them money or hurts their image, they are entitled to stop paying him. You agree that is fair?

Whatever ridiculous comparisons you’ve made such as people being arrested for misgendering someone don’t really work unless they were also employed by the ARU.

There’s no conspiracy to shut down free speech here. Folau was perfectly entitled to believe whatever backwards, twisted things he liked in private. Just as anyone is allowed to have a beer on the weekend or in the evening. But turn up to work drunk and expect a caution or a firing. Spread homophobic/hateful views when acting as an ambassador for your employee and/or other brands (such as ASICS who I’m pretty sure sponsored him) and expect a caution (which he had) or a firing.

If you need any more explaining let me know.
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Originally posted by SospanMawr SospanMawr wrote:

Originally posted by BlackwoodScarlet BlackwoodScarlet wrote:

Originally posted by SospanMawr SospanMawr wrote:

Originally posted by BlackwoodScarlet BlackwoodScarlet wrote:

Freedom of speech is dead
More nonsense.

Did that vile labour MP lose her job over the tweet that the girls who where groomed should shut their mouths for diversity?
I honestly don’t have a clue what you’re on about. Could you send me a link and/or explain the point you’re trying to make?

The fact is, the ARU are his employers. They pay him. If he continually brings their business into disrepute, costs them money or hurts their image, they are entitled to stop paying him. You agree that is fair?

Whatever ridiculous comparisons you’ve made such as people being arrested for misgendering someone don’t really work unless they were also employed by the ARU.

There’s no conspiracy to shut down free speech here. Folau was perfectly entitled to believe whatever backwards, twisted things he liked in private. Just as anyone is allowed to have a beer on the weekend or in the evening. But turn up to work drunk and expect a caution or a firing. Spread homophobic/hateful views when acting as an ambassador for your employee and/or other brands (such as ASICS who I’m pretty sure sponsored him) and expect a caution (which he had) or a firing.

If you need any more explaining let me know.

Its qantas who pushed for the sacking I think as aru main sponsors
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