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Originally posted by supertaf supertaf wrote:

My main issue was why he didn't chew Nigel about the hand in the ruck that led to the Lloyd Williams try. It was obvious !


   We did Ken and Cawdor did but he ignored there claims, remember Ospreys home when Alun Wyn was in Owens face on a disallowed try for a Jake Ball knock on straight upstairs and try cancelled out,Alun Wyn not even Captain .
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Originally posted by supertaf supertaf wrote:

My main issue was why he didn't chew Nigel about the hand in the ruck that led to the Lloyd Williams try. It was obvious !


In fairness he had a good go, as nigel walks to give the try ken is telling him about the hands in the ruck (same phase from ruck to try so could have gone back) and nigel has none of it. Ken threw the ball away in frustration
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Originally posted by Winston Winston wrote:

Thank you for recognising that.   I realise that as a newbie I haven’t yet earned the right to criticise anything Scarlets and perhaps I should cease to post for a couple of seasons until that right has been earned   Many others have criticised Ken but not been pilloried. I stand corrected and apologise to the forum
 
stop being such a drama queen, you can comment on ken poor decision making without comments like "some one lend him a brain cell" which is both insulting and in bad taste
 
TBH that call would have come from the coaches anyhow
 
By all means criticise just don't make personal or crass comments
 
btw who else is there to captain the side? parkes is out of form , foxy would be the shout I suppose
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Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Originally posted by Winston Winston wrote:

Thank you for recognising that.   I realise that as a newbie I haven’t yet earned the right to criticise anything Scarlets and perhaps I should cease to post for a couple of seasons until that right has been earned   Many others have criticised Ken but not been pilloried. I stand corrected and apologise to the forum
 
stop being such a drama queen, you can comment on ken poor decision making without comments like "some one lend him a brain cell" which is both insulting and in bad taste
 
TBH that call would have come from the coaches anyhow
 
By all means criticise just don't make personal or crass comments
 
btw who else is there to captain the side? parkes is out of form , foxy would be the shout I suppose


Foxy would be my second choice.
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Ken may have made decisions that people disagree with, but to question whether a hugely committed scarlet, a current Welsh international, and British Lion, lacks a brain, is insulting to the man.

Form is temporary, but class, or lack of it,is permanent.

The guy oozes class and commitment.
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How does Nigel defend his discriminatory treatment between teams and captains, or indeed, non-captains?
Any offence taken on board is only a literate/cy consequence. Every attempt at humour is just that. No personal insult intended. Standards lowered for trolls.
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Originally posted by gnasher1975 gnasher1975 wrote:

Originally posted by supertaf supertaf wrote:

My main issue was why he didn't chew Nigel about the hand in the ruck that led to the Lloyd Williams try. It was obvious !


In fairness he had a good go, as nigel walks to give the try ken is telling him about the hands in the ruck (same phase from ruck to try so could have gone back) and nigel has none of it. Ken threw the ball away in frustration

Too late now I know, but the Club can raise issues with the referee in the week following the game. 

They should raise this with NO and include a video clip of said incident, and see what his response is. I believe that they can then take it Greg Garner should they so wish. 

May make NO listen to Ken next time !

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Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

How does Nigel defend his discriminatory treatment between teams and captains, or indeed, non-captains?

See my post above Steve. perhaps they can ask your question at the same time !
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Originally posted by gnasher1975 gnasher1975 wrote:

Originally posted by supertaf supertaf wrote:

My main issue was why he didn't chew Nigel about the hand in the ruck that led to the Lloyd Williams try. It was obvious !


In fairness he had a good go, as nigel walks to give the try ken is telling him about the hands in the ruck (same phase from ruck to try so could have gone back) and nigel has none of it. Ken threw the ball away in frustration

Exactly.
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Originally posted by ap sior ap sior wrote:

Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

How does Nigel defend his discriminatory treatment between teams and captains, or indeed, non-captains?


See my post above Steve. perhaps they can ask your question at the same time !
Thanks. It’s certainly worth asking.
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Originally posted by gnasher1975 gnasher1975 wrote:

Originally posted by supertaf supertaf wrote:

My main issue was why he didn't chew Nigel about the hand in the ruck that led to the Lloyd Williams try. It was obvious !


In fairness he had a good go, as nigel walks to give the try ken is telling him about the hands in the ruck (same phase from ruck to try so could have gone back) and nigel has none of it. Ken threw the ball away in frustration

I sit the other side of the ground so did not hear these exchanges. Bearing in mind his many previous cock ups at PyS, Lee Byrne's try being one, I am surprised that Nigel isn't a little more circumspect these days. He should reflect on, and learn from previous mistakes.
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Originally posted by ap sior ap sior wrote:

Originally posted by gnasher1975 gnasher1975 wrote:

Originally posted by supertaf supertaf wrote:

My main issue was why he didn't chew Nigel about the hand in the ruck that led to the Lloyd Williams try. It was obvious !


In fairness he had a good go, as nigel walks to give the try ken is telling him about the hands in the ruck (same phase from ruck to try so could have gone back) and nigel has none of it. Ken threw the ball away in frustration


I sit the other side of the ground so did not hear these exchanges. Bearing in mind his many previous cock ups at PyS, Lee Byrne's try being one, I am surprised that Nigel isn't a little more circumspect these days. He should reflect on, and learn from previous mistakes.


The other thing being as they spent a fair bit of time on the in touch decision, he might have thought would take too long to look at the hands as well.
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Originally posted by gnasher1975 gnasher1975 wrote:

Originally posted by ap sior ap sior wrote:

Originally posted by gnasher1975 gnasher1975 wrote:

Originally posted by supertaf supertaf wrote:

My main issue was why he didn't chew Nigel about the hand in the ruck that led to the Lloyd Williams try. It was obvious !


In fairness he had a good go, as nigel walks to give the try ken is telling him about the hands in the ruck (same phase from ruck to try so could have gone back) and nigel has none of it. Ken threw the ball away in frustration


I sit the other side of the ground so did not hear these exchanges. Bearing in mind his many previous cock ups at PyS, Lee Byrne's try being one, I am surprised that Nigel isn't a little more circumspect these days. He should reflect on, and learn from previous mistakes.


The other thing being as they spent a fair bit of time on the in touch decision, he might have thought would take too long to look at the hands as well.

I haven't seen a replay of the incident. (I saw the game live; that was enough) but was it an illegal steal by Josh Turnbull?
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Originally posted by M.M. M.M. wrote:

Originally posted by gnasher1975 gnasher1975 wrote:

Originally posted by ap sior ap sior wrote:

Originally posted by gnasher1975 gnasher1975 wrote:

Originally posted by supertaf supertaf wrote:

My main issue was why he didn't chew Nigel about the hand in the ruck that led to the Lloyd Williams try. It was obvious !


In fairness he had a good go, as nigel walks to give the try ken is telling him about the hands in the ruck (same phase from ruck to try so could have gone back) and nigel has none of it. Ken threw the ball away in frustration


I sit the other side of the ground so did not hear these exchanges. Bearing in mind his many previous cock ups at PyS, Lee Byrne's try being one, I am surprised that Nigel isn't a little more circumspect these days. He should reflect on, and learn from previous mistakes.


The other thing being as they spent a fair bit of time on the in touch decision, he might have thought would take too long to look at the hands as well.


I haven't seen a replay of the incident. (I saw the game live; that was enough) but was it an illegal steal by Josh Turnbull?


Oh absolutely, hands in the ruck tapped it out the side and the move went from there
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote M.M. Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 January 2019 at 3:51pm
Originally posted by gnasher1975 gnasher1975 wrote:

Originally posted by M.M. M.M. wrote:

Originally posted by gnasher1975 gnasher1975 wrote:

Originally posted by ap sior ap sior wrote:

Originally posted by gnasher1975 gnasher1975 wrote:

Originally posted by supertaf supertaf wrote:

My main issue was why he didn't chew Nigel about the hand in the ruck that led to the Lloyd Williams try. It was obvious !


In fairness he had a good go, as nigel walks to give the try ken is telling him about the hands in the ruck (same phase from ruck to try so could have gone back) and nigel has none of it. Ken threw the ball away in frustration


I sit the other side of the ground so did not hear these exchanges. Bearing in mind his many previous cock ups at PyS, Lee Byrne's try being one, I am surprised that Nigel isn't a little more circumspect these days. He should reflect on, and learn from previous mistakes.


The other thing being as they spent a fair bit of time on the in touch decision, he might have thought would take too long to look at the hands as well.


I haven't seen a replay of the incident. (I saw the game live; that was enough) but was it an illegal steal by Josh Turnbull?


Oh absolutely, hands in the ruck tapped it out the side and the move went from there

Well, it wouldn't be proper game reffed by Nigel if there was not some controversy. 
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Originally posted by supertaf supertaf wrote:

My main issue was why he didn't chew Nigel about the hand in the ruck that led to the Lloyd Williams try. It was obvious !
Yep. When the TMO was involved I assumed it was to review the "turnover"
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