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Originally posted by Wasp Wasp wrote:

Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

If we can hang on in ready for the season run in when we’ll have injured players back that’ll help. As things stand regarding the 6 nations if it went on form only only Samson, Ken and Rob would get any place in the matchday squad.
With a bit of luck we'll have Boyde, Mcleod, Cubby, Patchell back during the 6N. Possibly Blade too

won't blade be with Scotland?
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Round Edinburgh (35pts) Benneton (35pts) Scarlets (34pts) Ulster (33pts)
14 S. Kings (A) Ulster (A) Leinster (A) Benneton (H)
15 Dragons (H) Scarlets (H) Benneton (A) Ospreys (A)
16 Blues (H) Dragons (H) Cheetahs (H) Zebre (H)
17 Benneton (A) Edinburgh (H) Munster (H) Dragons (A)
18 Leinster (H) Connacht (A) Blues (A) S. Kings (H)
19 Scarlets (A) Leinster (A) Edinburgh (H) Glasgow (A)
20 Ulster (H) Munster (H) Zebre (H) Edinburgh (A)
21 Glasgow (A) Zebre (A) Dragons (A) Leinster (H)
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Noticeably Edinburgh last 5 games are much harder than ours.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote multinational Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 January 2019 at 5:19pm
Originally posted by Wasp Wasp wrote:

LINK if anyone wants to play with the spreadsheet.

 
Thanks for this - I ran my scenarios and we end up second (agreeing with getting zip in Leinster and only a point at Cardiff).
 
We can beat Benneton imo, both teams will be depleted....
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ap sior Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 January 2019 at 5:23pm
Originally posted by dyniol53 dyniol53 wrote:

Noticeably Edinburgh last 5 games are much harder than ours.


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Originally posted by multinational multinational wrote:

Originally posted by Wasp Wasp wrote:

LINK if anyone wants to play with the spreadsheet.



 
Thanks for this - I ran my scenarios and we end up second (agreeing with getting zip in Leinster and only a point at Cardiff).
 
We can beat Benneton imo, both teams will be depleted....


Like we did last season !! We didn't even get a losing BP.
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Nice to win yesterday but we won't beat Edinburgh playing like that
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Huwbach Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 January 2019 at 6:59pm
Originally posted by salmidach salmidach wrote:

we just about beat a very poor Dragons team with no front row and some people think we can go to Benetton and win without ANY of our internationals......


That’s unfair, hardly a nail biter was it. Referreed properly they would have had three yellows scrum time. We were unlucky not to get a bp
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ap sior Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 January 2019 at 7:37pm
Originally posted by Grammar School Boy Grammar School Boy wrote:

Nice to win yesterday but we won't beat Edinburgh playing like that


Let's hope the Edinbutgh will have their eye on a Champions Cup QF. They currently head their group 4 pts ahead of Montpelier who still have to travel to Edinburgh which is becoming a difficlut place to win. Thye may therefore field a weakened side against us. Not sure they have the squad to fight on both fronts.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote minded Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 January 2019 at 10:34am
Originally posted by Wasp Wasp wrote:

 06/01/2018R14 oppPointsR15 oppPointsR16 oppPointsR17 oppPointsR18 oppPointsR19 oppPointsR20 oppPointsR21 oppPointsTotal
Leinster54SCA H5ZEB A5KIN H5CHE H5EDI A4BEN H5GLA H4ULS A491
Edinburgh35KING A5DRA H4CAR H4BEN A4LEI H0SCA A1ULS H4GLA A158
Benetton35ULS A1SCA H4DRA H4EDI H1CON A1LEI A0MUN H1ZEB A552
Scarlets34LEI A0BEN A1CHE H4MUN H4CAR A1EDI H4ZEB H5DRA A457
Ulster33BEN H4OSP A1ZEB H5DRA A4KIN H5GLA A1EDI A1LEI H054
If Leinster are top of the conference going into the final weekend and can't be caught, can you really see them going to Ulster and beating them? Not that i'm suggesting this league is corrupt in any way...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote GPR - Rochester Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 January 2019 at 10:38am
Lets be honest about it - it has nothing to do with both being Irish provinces. Leinster will be guaranteed by then a home semi. They will, in all probability, also be in the final stages of Europe. Why would they risk top line players in that game? We didn't risk our lads against Edinburgh in similar circumstances last season. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Wil Chips Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 January 2019 at 10:41am
Clearly it's going to come down to the Edinburgh / Benetton games as the pivot for our qualification.
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Indeed both big games. Edinburgh may well have a quarter final Champions Cup on their minds around then which may or may not help. Hopefully we can be fully loaded for that game. The Benetton one is different as it comes in the 6 nations. It is a rest weekend for the Internationals so our chances of release will a little better. Rhys and Jake are scheduled to play against Leinster in late January so may well be called into Gatlands squad but will probably be unlikely to feature in the first two games. 
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Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Indeed both big games. Edinburgh may well have a quarter final Champions Cup on their minds around then which may or may not help. Hopefully we can be fully loaded for that game. The Benetton one is different as it comes in the 6 nations. It is a rest weekend for the Internationals so our chances of release will a little better. Rhys and Jake are scheduled to play against Leinster in late January so may well be called into Gatlands squad but will probably be unlikely to feature in the first two games. 

That is my concern. Connor O'Shea may want to get Benetton into the Champions Cup, and so may release a few from the Italian squad. Gatland may however have his eye on RWC and keep hold of the Welsh players. 

Don't forget that we got nowt in Benetton last year. Our 23 that day contained 9 that played in the PRO12 final. They on the other hand were scraping around the local leagues for a side ! They went into the game in damage limitation mode, and came away with a BP win against us.
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I've run loads of scenarios on that excel spreadsheet and I can't for the life of me get us below 3rd place. 
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I have the impression many Benetton players will be called up by O Shea...today at 2 pm the list for 6N
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