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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote aber-fan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 January 2020 at 3:06pm
Can someone clarify for me which is Tompkins' best/usual position - 12 or 13?

Obviously, he'd be worth signing... we also have options here and now, with Steff Hughes (12/13) Asquith (12/13?) and Baldwin (13). I'd still prefer to spend any money available on beefing up the pack for next season, in the hope that Foxy makes a complete recovery. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote miaow Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 January 2020 at 5:32pm
He can play both by the looks of things. Very versatile. Could go either way though I'd be tempted to say they'll take a look at him as more of a 13 eventually for Wales.

Also looks like George North is all set to play 13 for Wales. Like chalk and cheese in terms of defensive abilities between Foxy and North in that position. Should get away with it against Italy.
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Originally posted by aber-fan aber-fan wrote:

Can someone clarify for me which is Tompkins' best/usual position - 12 or 13?

Obviously, he'd be worth signing... we also have options here and now, with Steff Hughes (12/13) Asquith (12/13?) and Baldwin (13). I'd still prefer to spend any money available on beefing up the pack for next season, in the hope that Foxy makes a complete recovery. 
 
barritt is the usual 12 for sarries especially in the big games so I'd guess most of Tompkins senior rugby is at 13
 
 
wol have the ospreys in for him, if so that gives us a big chance of bringing scott back
 
Not a bad outcome for both sides tbh
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I agree with this!

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That was meant to come after Miaow's post! 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sosban bach Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 January 2020 at 5:58pm
Originally posted by aber-fan aber-fan wrote:

Can someone clarify for me which is Tompkins' best/usual position - 12 or 13?

Obviously, he'd be worth signing... we also have options here and now, with Steff Hughes (12/13) Asquith (12/13?) and Baldwin (13). I'd still prefer to spend any money available on beefing up the pack for next season, in the hope that Foxy makes a complete recovery. 
Anywhere particular to beef up the pack? We’ve done great recruitment to get the ones we have but apart from a new th to replace I’d say Kruger and possibly a 6? Blade constantly out and shings one knock away from retiring as he’s 32/33 might need someone there?
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What is the situation with Fonotia currently? I thought I read that he was training but haven't seen him anywhere near a match day squad in ages
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Whilst Scott was a great player for the Scarlets, have never understood why he left, but would be bad move to try and get him back. He has been unlucky with injuries and would be huge risk to take him back surely better to got for Tomkins younger and will play a lot more games. 
She asks why i still can't answer. I guess its in the blood.
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Make Sale an offer they can't refuse for WillGriff John and look for another ball carrying NWQ lock. At 6 we've got Shingler , Rawlins, Kennedy and Thomson along with a few other non-specialists who could cover.
As is often proven, without the ball even the very best set of backs achieve little against top opposition. The other vital position is of course the head coach.
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Originally posted by Why Why wrote:

Whilst Scott was a great player for the Scarlets, have never understood why he left, but would be bad move to try and get him back. He has been unlucky with injuries and would be huge risk to take him back surely better to got for Tomkins younger and will play a lot more games. 
but tomkins will miss more games with team wales
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Originally posted by Sosban bach Sosban bach wrote:

Originally posted by aber-fan aber-fan wrote:

Can someone clarify for me which is Tompkins' best/usual position - 12 or 13?

Obviously, he'd be worth signing... we also have options here and now, with Steff Hughes (12/13) Asquith (12/13?) and Baldwin (13). I'd still prefer to spend any money available on beefing up the pack for next season, in the hope that Foxy makes a complete recovery. 
Anywhere particular to beef up the pack? We’ve done great recruitment to get the ones we have but apart from a new th to replace I’d say Kruger and possibly a 6? Blade constantly out and shings one knock away from retiring as he’s 32/33 might need someone there?


I think you've got it spot on. We've bought our pack this season but if a good tighthead becomes available, we shouldn't turn one down. Cannot see any back row recruitment. It's the backs we'll be signing this season for next. The money's gone on the pack this year, and it's mostly been great. Shingler and Blade, and then possibly Jac and Dan Davies being shifted to 6. Anyone I'm missing? Lewis Rawlins in a pinch? Think we're ok for 6
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Originally posted by Why Why wrote:

Whilst Scott was a great player for the Scarlets, have never understood why he left, but would be bad move to try and get him back. He has been unlucky with injuries and would be huge risk to take him back surely better to got for Tomkins younger and will play a lot more games. 


Very bad move in hindsight. Almost everything that could have gone wrong has gone wrong. He jumped the gun when he got left out of the Wales squad when Parkes got picked. Pivac was rotating them and sharing the role, but Scott wasn't happy and (probably fairly) thought he wouldn't be given a fair shot for Wales, and even the Scarlets, at the 12 shirt. Right when Jamie Roberts was finally being phased out as well...that's got to be emotionally taxing.

He had a child, didn't he, and his performances seemed to be a bit off in the wake of that. He then signs for the Ospreys thinking as long as he's starting games at 12, not on the bench, week in, week out, for a region that's not far behind the Scarlets will force Gatland in to a decision and not allow the fact Pivac's selections decided it for him. He backed his ability, really, and you have to admire that - but then injury arrived, Webb and Biggar abandoned ship, the Ospreys fell of a cliff as a team/region, and not only did he not nail the Welsh 12 shirt, he was now out of the picture for the whole squad, as Gatland went for Watkin based on injury and a pretty ropey warm up game against Ireland from Scott.

I can't see a return to the Scarlets. It wouldn't really make sense, unfortunately. And I wonder if his body is basically telling him he doen't have long left playing pro rugby.

If he is available for whatever reason I would gladly have him back though. World class talent in my opinion. Would have stood a good chance of getting capped by NZ in my opinion, which isn't the case for too many Welsh players. He reminded me of Richard Kahui and that new style of centre coming through at that time - just really solid all-rounders who looked a bit like rugby league players. Scott is/was that and I think under different coaches, particularly for Wales, he would have many more starting caps. Shame.
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I would love to see Scott back at the Scarlets, I think he still has hell of a lot to give, especially his home region, if the opportunity arose I think we should pounce at the chance of re-signing him.


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If Scott can get back to his best then there is no doubt he would be an asset to any team. There are however the concerns surrounding injuries and if they have any long term affect. He is only 29, so plenty of time for him to prove his worth. For me it'd depend on what sort of salary he'd command would determine whether to take him back.
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thing is with scott , you get a good character and leader as well as the player . He will be a top role model for our youngsters You can never have too many leaders in a squad
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Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

thing is with scott , you get a good character and leader as well as the player . He will be a top role model for our youngsters You can never have too many leaders in a squad
Would be good to have him back . I’m still not certain why he left other than the competition for first choice centre which as he knows is only an injury away from change. He does not belong at the Ospreys. 
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