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World Rugby have issued the following statement:

"World Rugby would like to reconfirm the guidelines employed by match officials and the judicial process relating to challenges in the air, following public and media commentary during the June tests.

"The guidelines, which have been operational since 2016, deal with when two players are challenging for a ball in the air and are designed to give clarity and alignment regarding the red card threshold. These guidelines are:

  • If a player is not in a realistic position to gather the ball, there is contact and their opponent lands on their back or side – Yellow card
  • If a player is not in a realistic position to gather the ball, there is reckless or deliberate foul play and the player lands in a dangerous position – Red card

"A player having eyes on the ball is not by itself a mitigating factor when the match officials are determining whether potential foul play has been committed. The primary consideration is whether both players were in a realistic position to regather the ball."

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote John Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 June 2018 at 9:46am
The French look like a transformed side this morning and have been playing a proper off- loading game at pace. To the extent that they have made the ABs look like a side playing static one out rugby. However, when Damian Mckenzie is playing flyhalf as he is today, things are not static and his two tries are the current difference between the sides. Mckenzie is a devastating full back but a lethal flyhalf. What a player!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rich (Bris) Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 June 2018 at 10:09am
France in attack brilliant (compared to recent years) but they've lost most of their line outs, defence far too passive and NZ amazing in attack (look like they will score each time they have the ball) and powerful defence. Chat great at hooker and both French centres (in attack)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote SA14 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 June 2018 at 10:10am
Any controversy with the ref? People complain about officials in rugby as if it’s the only sport it happens in. Seen some of the decisions in the World Cup?

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There was indeed (Lacey blocking Serin for NZ try which put them 21-14 up). But would have been big NZ win anyway
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote SA14 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 June 2018 at 11:02am
And if the Scarlets ever got away with murder like New Zealand we’d all stop supporting them for being cheats yes.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote scarletnut Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 June 2018 at 11:17am
Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

And if the Scarlets ever got away with murder like New Zealand we’d all stop supporting them for being cheats yes.
Do you ever give it a rest? That was a disgraceful decision by Lacey. It wasn’t exactly your average refereeing howler
I still wake up late at night and think of what might have been when tim stimpson hit that jammy penalty1
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I can only assume he thinks he has to stand somewhere and Sarin should have found a way round him &/or &/or deliberately bran into him a&/or would not have got to MacKenzie anyway (which is possible) but if so I think he wrong on this occasion and the fact he didn't change view having consulted TMO is weird.
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Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

Any controversy with the ref? People complain about officials in rugby as if it’s the only sport it happens in. Seen some of the decisions in the World Cup?


I don't think anyone has ever said that refereeing howlers are exclusive to rugby but this is a rugby forum and we are not unduly concerned about wendyball world cups.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote aber-fan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 June 2018 at 1:24pm
Originally posted by Rich (Bris) Rich (Bris) wrote:

I can only assume he thinks he has to stand somewhere and Sarin should have found a way round him &/or &/or deliberately bran into him a&/or would not have got to MacKenzie anyway (which is possible) but if so I think he wrong on this occasion and the fact he didn't change view having consulted TMO is weird.

Serein should have taken the Gareth Edwards option - a long time ago, trying to burst over from a scrum near the opposition line, he found the ref in his way. Gareth ran straight over the top of him, breaking the ref's leg  (or shoulder.. not sure of injury) in the process. Unfortunately, it slowed him down enough for the defence to prevent him scoring.

That is what refs deserve, if they interfere with play!
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