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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote aber-fan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 May 2019 at 2:00pm
Originally posted by dyniol53 dyniol53 wrote:

Initial feedback from the survey looks like this:


I'll share the more qualitative feedback on the weekend.

Thanks for your volunteer work on this - the survey was easy to fill in, with clear questions - unlike many I've seen (not speaking rugby here) in the past.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dyniol53 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 May 2019 at 3:13pm
No worries. (I spend most of my job running surveys at the minute)

Also, I saw recent meeting with JSG & WRU mentioned Attendances will be a focus in future.

“There was a detailed discussion in respect of the supporter experience and ticketing. MK said that the research seemed to suggest that the price of season tickets were too low but that the overall price point on match tickets was about right. One of the key requirements for all regions was to drive attendances up. There was agreement from all that regions could and should do better – but under resourced in commercial departments.”
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dyniol53 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 May 2019 at 3:15pm
So if anyone reading this hasn't filled out the survey yet - please do!

https://findaplayer.typeform.com/to/RJXSH5

Originally posted by dyniol53 dyniol53 wrote:

No worries. (I spend most of my job running surveys at the minute)

Also, I saw recent meeting with JSG & WRU mentioned Attendances will be a focus in future.

“There was a detailed discussion in respect of the supporter experience and ticketing. MK said that the research seemed to suggest that the price of season tickets were too low but that the overall price point on match tickets was about right. One of the key requirements for all regions was to drive attendances up. There was agreement from all that regions could and should do better – but under resourced in commercial departments.”
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Yma o hyd is  a song about Wales and how the Welsh language has survived  despite  the tribulations and difficulties over the years. 

Edited by LLANDRE - 15 May 2019 at 3:55pm
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Originally posted by LLANDRE LLANDRE wrote:

Yma o hyd is  a song about Wales and how the Welsh language has survived  despite  the tribulations and difficulties over the years. 

Yes, quite. I dont want mere survival for this rugby club tho.

I want progression innovation and domination. Ymlaen.
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Yma O Hyd was only relevant twice to this rugby club once when Robyn Mcbryde chose it when we faced bakrupcy from the Mel Davies saga, and again during the threat of the mergers with Moffet. Other than those two occasions its had little relevance to us.

As a motto, and as a song.

Ymlaen was always our motto, and Sospan Fach our anthem.

Quite why this weak minded image and thought process replaced the stronger one I really cant tell you.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Wasp Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 May 2019 at 9:50pm
Originally posted by Speedy Speedy wrote:

Yma O Hyd was only relevant twice to this rugby club once when Robyn Mcbryde chose it when we faced bakrupcy from the Mel Davies saga, and again during the threat of the mergers with Moffet. Other than those two occasions its had little relevance to us.

As a motto, and as a song.

Ymlaen was always our motto, and Sospan Fach our anthem.

Quite why this weak minded image and thought process replaced the stronger one I really cant tell you.
I always thought it was more of a "[beep] You" message than anything meek. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote aber-fan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 May 2019 at 1:27pm
Originally posted by Wasp Wasp wrote:

Originally posted by Speedy Speedy wrote:

Yma O Hyd was only relevant twice to this rugby club once when Robyn Mcbryde chose it when we faced bakrupcy from the Mel Davies saga, and again during the threat of the mergers with Moffet. Other than those two occasions its had little relevance to us.

As a motto, and as a song.

Ymlaen was always our motto, and Sospan Fach our anthem.

Quite why this weak minded image and thought process replaced the stronger one I really cant tell you.
I always thought it was more of a "[beep] You" message than anything meek. 

Haha! Yes, I think that 'Yma o hyd' is definitely intended as a two-finger salute to our detractors! But Speedy forgets one significant occasion when the song really mattered - when Dafydd Iwan sang it in Stradey, before we stuffed Leicester Tigers thanks to a superb forward effort, and (I think) 18 points from Stevo's boot.

I do sort of agree with Speedy, though - obviously, Sospan Fach is, and was, the anthem of Llanelli rugby, and should remain so.
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Originally posted by Wasp Wasp wrote:

Originally posted by Speedy Speedy wrote:

Yma O Hyd was only relevant twice to this rugby club once when Robyn Mcbryde chose it when we faced bakrupcy from the Mel Davies saga, and again during the threat of the mergers with Moffet. Other than those two occasions its had little relevance to us.

As a motto, and as a song.

Ymlaen was always our motto, and Sospan Fach our anthem.

Quite why this weak minded image and thought process replaced the stronger one I really cant tell you.
I always thought it was more of a "[beep] You" message than anything meek. 

In context to the motto it replaced it is neutral, happy to be "still here". very low expectations.

Rather than striving forward to acheive anything.

Celebrating mediocrity. Having "punched above our weight", when each year we get lighter and lighter.
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Originally posted by aber-fan aber-fan wrote:

Originally posted by Wasp Wasp wrote:

Originally posted by Speedy Speedy wrote:

Yma O Hyd was only relevant twice to this rugby club once when Robyn Mcbryde chose it when we faced bakrupcy from the Mel Davies saga, and again during the threat of the mergers with Moffet. Other than those two occasions its had little relevance to us.

As a motto, and as a song.

Ymlaen was always our motto, and Sospan Fach our anthem.

Quite why this weak minded image and thought process replaced the stronger one I really cant tell you.
I always thought it was more of a "[beep] You" message than anything meek. 

Haha! Yes, I think that 'Yma o hyd' is definitely intended as a two-finger salute to our detractors! But Speedy forgets one significant occasion when the song really mattered - when Dafydd Iwan sang it in Stradey, before we stuffed Leicester Tigers thanks to a superb forward effort, and (I think) 18 points from Stevo's boot.

I do sort of agree with Speedy, though - obviously, Sospan Fach is, and was, the anthem of Llanelli rugby, and should remain so.

I dont mind Yma o Hyd being one of our songs. At Welford rd it was sung this season and it really resonated, even Leicester fans around us were in awe of it, despite not knowing its meaning. 

The point is highlighted perfectly in your recollection of that so called triumph tho....

"when Dafydd Iwan sang it in Stradey, before we stuffed Leicester Tigers thanks to a superb forward effort, and (I think) 18 points from Stevo's boot."

Never mind that they went on to win the trophy and we went out tho....can you see my point? Mediocrity held up as some sort of triumph.

All those losing semi finals have become some twisted badge of honour, and our post 2003 tacky branding promotes it.

Our marketing, branding and ethos really does need a rethink. Dare I say it a refresh.
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There's nothing weak minded about  'Yma o Hyd', in fact it's quite the opposite.  It is a statement of intent that 'Mi fyddwn yma tan Ddydd y Farn' - 'we will be here until judgement day (no not that one).

It's powerful, drawing on history to show resilience and it is relevant to us every day of the week and twice on game day.  

That's the Scarlets, its in their DNA.
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Yn gwmws  Rob .  When we sang Yma o hyd  before the La Rochelle  game it  was one of the best moments of my time as a supporter
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Originally posted by LLANDRE LLANDRE wrote:

Yn gwmws  Rob .  When we sang Yma o hyd  before the La Rochelle  game it  was one of the best moments of my time as a supporter


Agreed, the stadium was well & truly rocking that day!
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Exactly Rob/Llandre. There is nothing wrong with being a good underdog. Yma o hyd epitomises the fight us ethnic minorities have had throughout history - even if I say that rather tongue in cheek there is nothing which can get a team/supporters more enthused than feeling you are not given the right respect before a contest. I remember a rendition being given on an away trip to Toulon when they were the best team in Europe. We had just scored to get within touching distance and a staunch Toulon fan next to me said we are going to lose this game - he had no idea what the song meant but he was very moved. 
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Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Exactly Rob/Llandre. There is nothing wrong with being a good underdog. Yma o hyd epitomises the fight us ethnic minorities have had throughout history - even if I say that rather tongue in cheek there is nothing which can get a team/supporters more enthused than feeling you are not given the right respect before a contest. I remember a rendition being given on an away trip to Toulon when they were the best team in Europe. We had just scored to get within touching distance and a staunch Toulon fan next to me said we are going to lose this game - he had no idea what the song meant but he was very moved. 
Lovely story.
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