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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote trinity60 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 January 2018 at 2:01pm
We would be 3rd on match points between the sides, not sure how Bath/Toulon would be separated.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote GPR - Rochester Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 January 2018 at 2:09pm
Originally posted by trinity60 trinity60 wrote:

We would be 3rd on match points between the sides, not sure how Bath/Toulon would be separated.

Think it would be aggregate points total in matches between the two sides which Bath win by a single point.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote NobbySosban Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 January 2018 at 2:15pm
Originally posted by PearlJam PearlJam wrote:

Originally posted by Speedy Speedy wrote:

Realistically, we are in knockout rugby mode.


I think that's the best way of assessing it. A win and a win sends us onwards; and I'd take that too, oddly enough.


And Scarlets are a Cup team. Just saying. Approve


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Matthew Cardey Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 January 2018 at 2:28pm
Looking at the other groups its going to be touch and go wether 18 points will be enough for second. Would have to get fair few results to go our way, and of course we'd have to beat beat toulon 5-0!
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I’m confident out pack will win the game for us tomorrow. Next week we’ll rise to a huge occasion. Home quarter final easy.
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Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

I’m confident out pack will win the game for us tomorrow. Next week we’ll rise to a huge occasion. Home quarter final easy.

 I love it - its not often that we have been able to talk about our pack winning games for us. Our squad have come a long way. Lets outmuscle the Bath 8 & out run the Toulon 8 next week. Sorted!!!!
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Right. Does it make a difference if Toulon lose today?
What do we want in terms of results from other groups to give us a home quarter final?
Pool 1
Ulster 17 points.
La Rochelle 16 points.
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Clermont 18 points
Ospreys 13 points
Pool 3
Leinster 18 points
Montpellier 13 points
Pool 4
Munster 15 points
Racing 11 points

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote aber-fan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 January 2018 at 3:18pm
Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

I’m confident out pack will win the game for us tomorrow. Next week we’ll rise to a huge occasion. Home quarter final easy.

 I love it - its not often that we have been able to talk about our pack winning games for us. Our squad have come a long way. Lets outmuscle the Bath 8 & out run the Toulon 8 next week. Sorted!!!!

Part 1 done - though of course, it was an all-team effort, not just the forwards!
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Ulster gave our hopes of a home QF a nice lift today
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Racing to beat munster would be nice. If munster dont get any points a win on sat would give us a home qf. Or a Bp win for us would be enoughif ulster fail to get bp
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Originally posted by DropOut22 DropOut22 wrote:

Racing to beat munster would be nice. If munster dont get any points a win on sat would give us a home qf. Or a Bp win for us would be enoughif ulster fail to get bp

My head is hurting - and not just from the beer!
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Eventhough Clermont are down 20-18 (27-21 now, c'mon Saints!) now, I assume they and Leinster will go through as the top two in the QF. Ospreys can pass us, but I can't see them turning over Saracens and Clermont. Sarries with 2x5pts can only get 21pts.
That leaves 3 pools going for 2 home QF places. If, and it's a big IF, but if we get 5pts next Saturday, that puts us on 22pts.
In Pool 4, Munster have Racing away and Castres at home. If Racing beat Munster but get a LBP and get all 5 against Castres then they get 21pts, 1 behind us. Even if Rscing get 5pts against Munster and 5pts against Leicester they are only on 21pts too.
Pool 1 Ulster are leading on 17pts but have a tough away game left to Wasps, even a win without BP would only put them on 21. I can see La Rochelle getting all 5 in their last game at home to Harlequins and also getting 21pts.

So our BP last night was huge, as was Ulsters win against La Rochelle. So lets hope for a Racing win v Munster and a BP win for us against Toulon would see us 3rd with a home QF. Obviously any win would be awesome, but there will probably be a glut of teams on 21pts.

At least our destiny is in our hands ..... for once Tongue


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote SospanMawr Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 January 2018 at 7:51pm
From the ERC Website
(c) If ranking remains unresolved and/or if clubs have not played each other previously in the pool stage, qualification/ranking will be determined as follows:
(i) the best aggregate points difference from the pool stage; or
(ii) if equal, the number of tries scored in the pool stage; or
(iii) if equal, the club with the fewest number of players suspended under Disciplinary Rules in the pool stage; or  
(iv) if unresolved, by drawing lots.

Our points difference is +36, and we've scored 16 tries, second to only Ospreys and Saracens (17).

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote CTMassive Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 January 2018 at 9:06pm
ACM are +44 so we need the Ospreys to do us a favour out there and not let them get a winning BP to keep them on 22 points. Wouldn't be a big deal really as it would only seperate 2nd from 3rd, both would get home QF. 

I'm sure we'd all settle for a W against Toulon - a total of 21 will probably be reached by a few teams so you could get 21 and be away in the QF, that's why I see us going all out for a BP again!!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote tannerbankboy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 January 2018 at 10:02pm
Just finished, Ospreys 15 v Saracens 15.  Clermont on 18, Ospreys on 15.  Sarries on 13. Sarries home to Saints next so 18 points max in total.  Looks like they're out.  Clermont likely 22 or 23.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote reesytheexile Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 January 2018 at 10:10pm
Fair play to Welsh rugby and our nearby neighbors . Good effort. Here’s to next seasons EC Ospreys.We don’t want to be stuffed all the time as a nation but also pleased it’s just The Scarlets left 👍
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