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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote aber-fan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 January 2018 at 6:19pm
Castres are currently beating Leicester 27-0... is this a case of 'how have the mighty fallen', or have Leicester fielded a weakened side? If so, can and will they be punished, as it could affect other teams' chances of qualification?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ChrisX Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 January 2018 at 6:20pm
As it stands, Scarlets only team to win away from home in Round 5 this weekend....

No English teams currently in top 8....

Pro 14 v The Top 14
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote SA14 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 January 2018 at 6:25pm
Yet people constantly criticise the PRO14 as a poor competition.
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Glasgow could make a lot of friends v Exeter next weekend, but based on today's score, have they thrown in the towel?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote roy munster Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 January 2018 at 6:28pm
Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

Yet people constantly criticise the PRO14 as a poor competition.

Exactly

The pro 14 will have 3 or 4 teams in the quarters and the english will almost certainly have none. (The irish and welsh have dominated the 6 nations fairly consistently for over a decade up until the last 2 years)

Over the years leinster munster ulster have won the cup 6 times between them all
Time we put a welsh name on it tooWink
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote roy munster Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 January 2018 at 6:29pm
munster v scarlets IF it comes down to 21 points each will be done on points diff , they are plus 39 we are plus 36
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Matthew Cardey Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 January 2018 at 6:38pm
Think we just need to concentrate on getting the win. It will guarantee qualification and who knows how the other games will go.21 could well be good enough for home QF.
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So Leinster have won their pool and are through as winners. I think Munster, Racing, Ulster and La Rochelle will all win next week and go through as winners or runners up.

The other winners will be Ospreys or Clermont and Scarlets or Toulon. Clermont and Toulon would have a good chance of going through as runners up if they lose with a bonus point. Saracens, Bath and Exeter could yet sneak through as runners up, with Exeter most likely as they can reach 19 points. A losing bonus point for either Scarlets or Toulon puts Bath out. Saracens are out if Ospreys win.

I think it's reasonably likely that Saracens and Exeter will get a full haul, leaving Exeter on 19 and Saracens on 18, with Munster, Racing, Ulster and La Rochelle all somewhere between 20 and 22. Scarlets have to win - a best runners up spot isn't likely.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote SospanMawr Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 January 2018 at 6:43pm
Originally posted by roy munster roy munster wrote:

Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

Yet people constantly criticise the PRO14 as a poor competition.


Exactly

The pro 14 will have 3 or 4 teams in the quarters and the english will almost certainly have none. (The irish and welsh have dominated the 6 nations fairly consistently for over a decade up until the last 2 years)

Over the years leinster munster ulster have won the cup 6 times between them all
Time we put a welsh name on it tooWink
The teams are quality, the league is crap.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote CTMassive Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 January 2018 at 6:44pm
Of course the players need to concentrate on just getting the win, but we are free to speculate, hypthesise and conjecture all we want. Hell this is one of the most exciting weeks I can remember bar the Pro12 Final build up. I also trust that someone will be doing the maths and looking at the permutations because someone needs to let Ken know half time what the play should be in different circumstances, assuming we're in the game. I guarentee you Schmidt and I'm certain Stevo will be looking at it
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote roy munster Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 January 2018 at 7:37pm
good weekend for welsh rugby

Cardiff beat toulouse and they qualified (They need to win in Lyon to make home quarter final)
We stuffed bath 
Ospreys drew with the champions and knocked them out (ospreys need to win in clermont to qualify)
Dragons another brave defeat lol

Overall european record is won 11 drew 1 lost 8
far better than the welsh pro 14 overall record of won 22 lost 29, that kind of underlines the relative strength of the pro 14
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote tannerbankboy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 January 2018 at 8:13pm
Ah, the end of week 5 and the what if's and maybe's are all becoming a little clearer.  If only a little.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Eastern outpost Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 January 2018 at 8:17pm
Not sure Sarries are out mathematically. Thought they’ve a sliver of a chance still of a high scoring runners up berth.

Is that the case?
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Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

Not sure Sarries are out mathematically. Thought they’ve a sliver of a chance still of a high scoring runners up berth.

Is that the case?

sarries are 100% out, even if they get 5 points 1 of the ospreys or sarries will end up with 19 points

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Yes, they're on 13 pts and 18 pts could still make a best runners up, but they would need to win with 4 tries and by 20 odd points (assuming we and others vying for second lose and hence have a worse point differential). But they are at home, saying that Gaffney seems to have started having an effect at Saints, playing for the new boss etc, Billy Vunipola out for 10 weeks and their back 3 only getting to touch the ball for kick returns doesn't bode well .......... yeah they're out. Who'd have thought that last year -Sarries out and Scarlets alive and kicking -  definitely not Sanjay!
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Saracens are definitely out if Ospreys win, because they can't overtake Clermont and so will finish third. If Clermont win and Sarries get a full 5 points, they'll go into the mix, but looking at the likely results, 19 points may well be the cut off for a best runners up spot.

The only teams that are definitely out are the 5 bottom placed teams. Everyone else still has a chance, although for Wasps and Castres who can only reach 17 points, it's not likely.
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