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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rob o'r Bont Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 December 2017 at 6:35pm
Not sure what this means actually.  Does it mean that some players left without knowing what the Scarlets final offer was?  
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I think we know who. Let's not let it divide the players from the fans. At least hit the rest of the season and remember the agents play a big part. Perhaps they had extra bonuses to lure them away...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote aber-fan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 December 2017 at 7:09pm
Originally posted by Huwbach Huwbach wrote:

I think we know who. Let's not let it divide the players from the fans. At least hit the rest of the season and remember the agents play a big part. Perhaps they had extra bonuses to lure them away...

It's very likely some agent/agents had their sticky fingers involved in this... pity... don't let it destabilise the rest of the season, though, Scarlets!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (2) Thanks(2)   Quote ladram Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 December 2017 at 7:09pm
Originally posted by scarletnut scarletnut wrote:

Originally posted by Exkixu Exkixu wrote:

I don't get this last bit:

Pivac revealed the Scarlets have already agreed a deal to replace the departing Williams, with an announcement to come.

Is he talking about another player on top of Fonotia?

No he's talking about a replacement for Aled Davies. Think there's been a misprint 
Steff,if you have something to say please say it if not just shut up,this nonsensical I know something you don't is wearing very thin.
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Nigel, I think Steff has stated what his view was of the Press Conference. If I’m wrong in my assumption, I’m sure Steff will put that right.

I don’t see anything more than the BBC website had a typo.
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For me, and reading the comments on departing players, I cannot possibly see how Scott could be included in the not proper process bracket.

It may well relate to a deal that’s been done but not announced yet.
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Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Ah the mystery deepens. So we have more than one departing player who has riled Pivac in some way. It's not Beirne so its down to 2 from Scott, Aled & Barclay. Some things just won't go away. 
It's not Barclay either
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Originally posted by scarletnut scarletnut wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Ah the mystery deepens. So we have more than one departing player who has riled Pivac in some way. It's not Beirne so its down to 2 from Scott, Aled & Barclay. Some things just won't go away. 
It's not Barclay either
I nearly mentioned that I’d find it very difficult to believe JB would do anything in an ill-considered manner, too.
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Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

Originally posted by scarletnut scarletnut wrote:

Originally posted by Exkixu Exkixu wrote:

I don't get this last bit:

<span style="font-family: ReithSans, Arial, Helvetica, freesans, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Pivac revealed the Scarlets have already agreed a deal to replace the departing Williams, with an announcement to come.</span>
<span style="font-family: ReithSans, Arial, Helvetica, freesans, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">
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Is he talking about another player on top of Fonotia?

No he's talking about a replacement for Aled Davies. Think there's been a misprint 

Steff,if you have something to say please say it if not just shut up,this nonsensical I know something you don't is wearing very thin.
I've messaged you my number so you can give me a ring and say what you think rather than act in a childish manner on here.
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I don't care about any of this....... it occured to me over the weekend that there had been alot of angst when Mikey departed for pastures blue all those seasons ago and yet we have welcomed him back in a way that makes the prodigal son's welcome look very third rate.

If a player decides to depart for any reason, completely understandable (the two Bees) or completely unfathomable (anyone who wants to be coached by Tandy) then they can go and play elsewhere. The ethos we want and Pivac demands is one of absolute commitment and desire to wear Scarlet.

If, in the future, any of them is prepared to put a Scarlet shirt on again, then I shall be delighted. Particularly if it involves coming out of retirement and a intercontinental flight......
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 Interesting from Wayne. He's a fair man who communicates well and he just expects that in return. Seems there are players who want to stay if the deal is right and players who just want out.


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Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

Originally posted by scarletnut scarletnut wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Ah the mystery deepens. So we have more than one departing player who has riled Pivac in some way. It's not Beirne so its down to 2 from Scott, Aled & Barclay. Some things just won't go away. 
It's not Barclay either
I nearly mentioned that I’d find it very difficult to believe JB would do anything in an ill-considered manner, too.
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There are other parties involved in this process besides the players, coaches and agents. Could be "communication" problems there?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Why Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 December 2017 at 9:03pm
The truth will come out apparently I think it's about time the truth did come out or it will destabilise the squad. Let's not play silly buggers there is clearly ill feeling between staff and some player who has chosen to leave you have to ask if that case is it in interest of club that they stay.
I always got impression it was happy and tight knit squad.
She asks why i still can't answer. I guess its in the blood.
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Its a small ,intense workplace and whilst most workers at such workplaces are happy there is always some who are unhappy/feel undervalued/underpaid or talents wasted. Also some just feel they need a change to recharge their careers-they are like all of us who are at work!

Some will present their' issues' face-on with employers and what they feel they need to be happier at work whilst others may say something about their wishes to move on but really remain unsettled and just want to move with no more protracted debate and discussion.It's just working life . As long as a leaver works their notice and does their best that is fine with me. We should not get hung up on it IMO 


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I've always thought it strange they announce the transfers so early in the season. look at biggar and Webb that was almost at the start of the season if not before and surely if you are going to a rival club it can't be good for the players, fans either
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