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Topic: Any rumours?
Posted By: knutsfordlion
Subject: Any rumours?
Date Posted: 01 April 2017 at 3:03pm
Just wondering if anyone has heard any rumours about potential signings for next season?
 
This is normally the time of year when the rumour mill starts turning.
 
Would like a carrying 8, and also a flying back three player. A big Fijian perhaps?


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Posted By: henry_winkler
Date Posted: 01 April 2017 at 6:47pm
Tom Prydie has signed for us.


Posted By: scarletnut
Date Posted: 01 April 2017 at 6:51pm
Rumour of a South African 8 coming in but that's not very reliable.

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Posted By: najbritcol
Date Posted: 01 April 2017 at 7:24pm
Originally posted by henry_winkler henry_winkler wrote:

Tom Prydie has signed for us.


Source?


Posted By: Tim Opolis
Date Posted: 01 April 2017 at 7:35pm
Originally posted by najbritcol najbritcol wrote:

Originally posted by henry_winkler henry_winkler wrote:

Tom Prydie has signed for us.


Source?


Hopefully the same one that told him Halfpenny was coming. Wink


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Posted By: Delboy
Date Posted: 02 April 2017 at 10:24am
Hopefully Michael Collins could be on his way back. Only signed up with the Blues & Otago to the end of their current season

Playing well for the Blues

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Posted By: mr geraint
Date Posted: 02 April 2017 at 11:11am
Collins seems to be their first-choice fullback: I can't imagine he'll be going anywhere next season.


Posted By: scarletnut
Date Posted: 02 April 2017 at 11:25am
Originally posted by mr geraint mr geraint wrote:

Collins seems to be their first-choice fullback: I can't imagine he'll be going anywhere next season.
Why? We can pay him more money and there's the carrot of test rugby. Super Rugby is losing players at a rate of knots

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Posted By: John
Date Posted: 02 April 2017 at 12:18pm
Originally posted by scarletnut scarletnut wrote:

Originally posted by mr geraint mr geraint wrote:

Collins seems to be their first-choice fullback: I can't imagine he'll be going anywhere next season.
Why? We can pay him more money and there's the carrot of test rugby. Super Rugby is losing players at a rate of knots


There's the carrot of a NZ cap as well for the five first choice Super rugby full backs. OK Smith is the incumbent and Jordie Barritt is 20 and fantastic but a coupe of injuries and Collins has a chance. And I suspect an AB jersey would be a bit more special to him than the Welsh one. 


Posted By: Mugwuffin
Date Posted: 02 April 2017 at 12:21pm
Originally posted by John John wrote:

Originally posted by scarletnut scarletnut wrote:

Originally posted by mr geraint mr geraint wrote:

Collins seems to be their first-choice fullback: I can't imagine he'll be going anywhere next season.
Why? We can pay him more money and there's the carrot of test rugby. Super Rugby is losing players at a rate of knots


There's the carrot of a NZ cap as well for the five first choice Super rugby full backs. OK Smith is the incumbent and Jordie Barritt is 20 and fantastic but a coupe of injuries and Collins has a chance. And I suspect an AB jersey would be a bit more special to him than the Welsh one. 

He'll never play for the All Blacks. He's not quick enough.


Posted By: scarletnut
Date Posted: 02 April 2017 at 12:22pm
Originally posted by John John wrote:

Originally posted by scarletnut scarletnut wrote:

Originally posted by mr geraint mr geraint wrote:

Collins seems to be their first-choice fullback: I can't imagine he'll be going anywhere next season.
Why? We can pay him more money and there's the carrot of test rugby. Super Rugby is losing players at a rate of knots


There's the carrot of a NZ cap as well for the five first choice Super rugby full backs. OK Smith is the incumbent and Jordie Barritt is 20 and fantastic but a coupe of injuries and Collins has a chance. And I suspect an AB jersey would be a bit more special to him than the Welsh one. 
He really hasn't got much of a chance of playing for the All Blacks. He's a good player but unfortunately there's a handful of far better 15's than him in NZ. If McNicholl never got capped Collins hasn't got much of a chance

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I still wake up late at night and think of what might have been when tim stimpson hit that jammy penalty1


Posted By: kcreg
Date Posted: 02 April 2017 at 12:25pm
seen a guy,that looked the spit of ross moriaty,having a pint and a good old chat with wayne pivac,in the beer garden of the bucket and spade earlier.

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Posted By: mr geraint
Date Posted: 02 April 2017 at 12:46pm
I don't think we're going to chuck money at Michael Collins, are we?

And he's not going to be capped ahead of Shove or Sanjay. Patchell's more likely to play 15 for Wales than Collins.


Posted By: Why
Date Posted: 02 April 2017 at 2:45pm
Originally posted by mr geraint mr geraint wrote:

I don't think we're going to chuck money at Michael Collins, are we?

And he's not going to be capped ahead of Shove or Sanjay. Patchell's more likely to play 15 for Wales than Collins.

All the more reason to sign him he be available all season a back three of Johnnie Stef and Collins not to shabby at all

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Posted By: Wasp
Date Posted: 02 April 2017 at 3:53pm
I'd love to have Mike back.

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Posted By: Dafen Boy
Date Posted: 02 April 2017 at 4:36pm
Originally posted by Wasp Wasp wrote:

I'd love to have Mike back.

The overall team is better now than when he was here before.  Would be a great fit


Posted By: Sandman
Date Posted: 02 April 2017 at 6:42pm
Originally posted by henry_winkler henry_winkler wrote:

Tom Prydie has signed for us.
Hope not. Don't rate him at all. Would much rather we developed our own talent or get Collins back or someone similar.

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Posted By: EJPT
Date Posted: 02 April 2017 at 7:13pm
Originally posted by Mugwuffin Mugwuffin wrote:

Originally posted by John John wrote:

Originally posted by scarletnut scarletnut wrote:

Originally posted by mr geraint mr geraint wrote:

Collins seems to be their first-choice fullback: I can't imagine he'll be going anywhere next season.
Why? We can pay him more money and there's the carrot of test rugby. Super Rugby is losing players at a rate of knots


There's the carrot of a NZ cap as well for the five first choice Super rugby full backs. OK Smith is the incumbent and Jordie Barritt is 20 and fantastic but a coupe of injuries and Collins has a chance. And I suspect an AB jersey would be a bit more special to him than the Welsh one. 

He'll never play for the All Blacks. He's not quick enough.

Don't know why people keep saying he isn't quick, ran in a 50 metre try against the western force yesterday. Has CLEARLY got enough pace, running in tries agianst current wallabies.


Posted By: mr geraint
Date Posted: 02 April 2017 at 9:04pm
I would definitely have him back, it was pleasing to see him put the hammer down and run in that try against the Force.
It would be a pleasant surprise to see him back.


Posted By: ChrisX
Date Posted: 03 April 2017 at 12:29pm
Michael Collins YES, but hope rumours on Prydie are not right, had potential once, but now an injury prone squad player at best in my opinion. certainly not a replacement for Liam! 


Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 03 April 2017 at 1:35pm
George North out of contract at the end of next season.

Runs away.


Posted By: turkishrebel
Date Posted: 03 April 2017 at 1:47pm
collins would be a good signing, played well for us and solid. ticks lots of boxes. no.8 is needed, just wonder who this south african is as per scarletnuts earlier comments and if there are any actual legs in it.
prydie is not bad, is no world beater but i imagine he would not be expensive and he is a goalkicker too.
we have been spoilt with sanjay, sadly dth has only shown glimpses of what he can do. 
just think a big south sea islander would be quite nice as an option...playing him on the wing or at 8 Wink


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Posted By: scarletnut
Date Posted: 03 April 2017 at 1:57pm
Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

George North out of contract at the end of next season.

Runs away.
You've done it now....LOL

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Posted By: turkishrebel
Date Posted: 03 April 2017 at 2:37pm
Has he signed yet???? Georgie is a scarlet!!!!

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Posted By: PE SA
Date Posted: 03 April 2017 at 3:29pm
Originally posted by scarletnut scarletnut wrote:

Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

George North out of contract at the end of next season.

Runs away.
You've done it now....LOL
Ospreys NDC....surely!!!LOL


Posted By: supertaf
Date Posted: 03 April 2017 at 4:22pm
Collins is one of those deceptive runners who doesn't look fast but moves along pretty well. Superugby is struggling financially and geographically and I wouldn't be surprised if we can tempt him back. His bamp lived in Llanelli so he has a family connection.

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Posted By: Wasp
Date Posted: 03 April 2017 at 6:28pm
Originally posted by supertaf supertaf wrote:

Collins is one of those deceptive runners who doesn't look fast but moves along pretty well. Superugby is struggling financially and geographically and I wouldn't be surprised if we can tempt him back. His bamp lived in Llanelli so he has a family connection.
I don't think we're exactly awash with cash either!


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Posted By: scarletnut
Date Posted: 03 April 2017 at 7:02pm
Originally posted by Wasp Wasp wrote:

Originally posted by supertaf supertaf wrote:

Collins is one of those deceptive runners who doesn't look fast but moves along pretty well. Superugby is struggling financially and geographically and I wouldn't be surprised if we can tempt him back. His bamp lived in Llanelli so he has a family connection.
I don't think we're exactly awash with cash either!
Still more money than they can offer

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I still wake up late at night and think of what might have been when tim stimpson hit that jammy penalty1


Posted By: Wayne07
Date Posted: 03 April 2017 at 8:42pm
I have heard from a good source that George is coming home.


Posted By: Wasp
Date Posted: 03 April 2017 at 8:50pm
Originally posted by scarletnut scarletnut wrote:

Originally posted by Wasp Wasp wrote:

Originally posted by supertaf supertaf wrote:

Collins is one of those deceptive runners who doesn't look fast but moves along pretty well. Superugby is struggling financially and geographically and I wouldn't be surprised if we can tempt him back. His bamp lived in Llanelli so he has a family connection.
I don't think we're exactly awash with cash either!
Still more money than they can offer
I'd welcome it! We need a dedicated 15 - although Mikey used to fall off the odd tackle didn't he? It's a Super Rugby trait seemingly.


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Posted By: van jaarsveld
Date Posted: 03 April 2017 at 9:22pm
Originally posted by Wayne07 Wayne07 wrote:

I have heard from a good source that George is coming home.

What, does Norfolk RFC have that sort of money?


Posted By: Wayne07
Date Posted: 03 April 2017 at 9:27pm
Originally posted by van jaarsveld van jaarsveld wrote:

Originally posted by Wayne07 Wayne07 wrote:

I have heard from a good source that George is coming home.


What, does Norfolk RFC have that sort of money?

No WRU are funding it


Posted By: scarletnut
Date Posted: 03 April 2017 at 9:32pm
Originally posted by Wayne07 Wayne07 wrote:

Originally posted by van jaarsveld van jaarsveld wrote:

Originally posted by Wayne07 Wayne07 wrote:

I have heard from a good source that George is coming home.


What, does Norfolk RFC have that sort of money?

No WRU are funding it
Yeah to the Dragons or Blues

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I still wake up late at night and think of what might have been when tim stimpson hit that jammy penalty1


Posted By: ap sior
Date Posted: 03 April 2017 at 10:21pm
Originally posted by scarletnut scarletnut wrote:

Originally posted by Wayne07 Wayne07 wrote:

Originally posted by van jaarsveld van jaarsveld wrote:

Originally posted by Wayne07 Wayne07 wrote:

I have heard from a good source that George is coming home.


What, does Norfolk RFC have that sort of money?

No WRU are funding it
Yeah to the Dragons or Blues

If true that is disgraceful ! I thought he had to be offered back to the Region from whence he left ?


Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 04 April 2017 at 9:01am
George North signs for the Dragons.

Not.


Posted By: Exkixu
Date Posted: 04 April 2017 at 9:10am
Originally posted by scarletnut scarletnut wrote:

Rumour of a South African 8 coming in but that's not very reliable.

Was a name mentioned? I could do with some video highlights hunting.


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Posted By: scarletnut
Date Posted: 04 April 2017 at 9:14am
Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

George North signs for the Dragons.

Not.
I was kidding

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Posted By: reesytheexile
Date Posted: 04 April 2017 at 9:24am
Originally posted by scarletnut scarletnut wrote:

Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

George North signs for the Dragons.

Not.
I was kidding
 

I warned you about "Fake News" Steff! Wink


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Posted By: AstroScarlet
Date Posted: 06 April 2017 at 12:12pm
WalesOnline running with story that Prydie and Rhys Jones have signed.

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/scarlets-sign-welsh-international-liam-12854335#ICID=sharebar_twitter" rel="nofollow - http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/scarlets-sign-welsh-international-liam-12854335#ICID=sharebar_twitter


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Posted By: Wayne07
Date Posted: 06 April 2017 at 1:00pm
Is that the Rhys Jones that left us? Number 10?. And prydie. I'm not convinced about the signings to take place of DTH and Sanjay but I've been proven wrong before with Johnny Evans.


Posted By: scarletnut
Date Posted: 06 April 2017 at 1:04pm
I've got no words about the signing of Rhys Jones...

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Posted By: minded
Date Posted: 06 April 2017 at 1:07pm
Originally posted by scarletnut scarletnut wrote:

I've got no words about the signing of Rhys Jones...
Makes a change for you ai Star


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Posted By: PritchyTheScarlet
Date Posted: 06 April 2017 at 1:25pm
I can partly understand why we've signed Prydie, but the signing of Rhys Jones is baffling.

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Posted By: Why
Date Posted: 06 April 2017 at 1:33pm
I think Prydie could be excellent signing will be cheap and he could flourish in our squad if it doesn't come off won't be huge wate of money. Clearly has got talent but has had terrible time with injuries.

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Posted By: Ffidel Bennett
Date Posted: 06 April 2017 at 1:36pm
We haven't confused him with another Rhys Jones have we?


Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 06 April 2017 at 1:40pm
Sometimes, people change and turn their careers round.

Whoever is coming, let's get behind them in the joint hope that their new environment will be the catalyst to them taking a step up in level and achieving new heights.

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Posted By: PritchyTheScarlet
Date Posted: 06 April 2017 at 1:46pm
Originally posted by Ffidel Bennett Ffidel Bennett wrote:

We haven't confused him with another Rhys Jones have we?

The WO article says that it's the Rhys Jones that formerly played for the Scarlets. 


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Posted By: solva
Date Posted: 06 April 2017 at 1:56pm
trimmed something off the wage ill but not added to the quality of the roster - still, give 'em a chance,


Posted By: scarletnut
Date Posted: 06 April 2017 at 1:58pm
Originally posted by solva solva wrote:

trimmed something off the wage ill but not added to the quality of the roster - still, give 'em a chance,
The wage bill has gone up for next season according to the club

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I still wake up late at night and think of what might have been when tim stimpson hit that jammy penalty1


Posted By: henry_winkler
Date Posted: 06 April 2017 at 2:04pm
I think Prydie will be a good signing and with some good coaching and conditioning could be a stalwart in our team if he stays injury free.

I'd expect to never seen Rhys Jones in a regional shirt unless it's the LV cup.


Posted By: Wasp
Date Posted: 06 April 2017 at 2:05pm
Originally posted by scarletnut scarletnut wrote:

Originally posted by solva solva wrote:

trimmed something off the wage ill but not added to the quality of the roster - still, give 'em a chance,
The wage bill has gone up for next season according to the club
That will be pay rises mostly.
Prydie might just need some decent coaching and decent centres.



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Posted By: shocker
Date Posted: 06 April 2017 at 2:32pm
Can cover fullback, wing and centre. Plus he can kick. A good signing


Posted By: PE SA
Date Posted: 06 April 2017 at 2:34pm
Tom Prydie: very decent signing. Young. Welsh. Experienced. Never really had a go in a good backline with go forward ball. His time at the Ospreys was short lived and they didnt really bring him through despite his huge potential. Left for the dragons where he has notched up 90 appearances, but as I say, not in the best environment. Outside players like Scott, Foxy, Parkes, Mcnicholl, Patchell...he's in good company. Could be the making of him. Well worth bringing him in. 

Rhys Jones: Aled Thomas replacement perhaps? Let's be honest, we can not really go out and sign a very good number 10 when we already have 2. We need someone available, we need someone to be in the squad...Rhys Jones, especially if on a 7s contract, we will not be paying at all...if hes not on a 7s deal, he wont cost a lot. It is however a signing that shows exactly where Billy McBryde/Jack Maynard are...
 


Posted By: Wayne07
Date Posted: 06 April 2017 at 3:19pm
Might have had them on a bogof deal


Posted By: SospanMawr
Date Posted: 06 April 2017 at 3:33pm
Personally I'd rather give Billy or Maynard a go, preferably Maynard. They're all playing at the same standard as of now and our two surely have more scope for improvement.
Rhys Jones has had more clubs than Tiger Woods which says a lot.


Posted By: John
Date Posted: 06 April 2017 at 4:40pm
Originally posted by SospanMawr SospanMawr wrote:

Personally I'd rather give Billy or Maynard a go, preferably Maynard. They're all playing at the same standard as of now and our two surely have more scope for improvement.
Rhys Jones has had more clubs than Tiger Woods which says a lot.


My thoughts as well.....


Posted By: Ffidel Bennett
Date Posted: 06 April 2017 at 8:03pm
Why couldn't we have kept Aled Thomas then -does he want to leave? I suppose the thinking is we need somebody with experience who isn't expensive until one of our own shows they are ready.
 
Or has somebody told Pivac that he's found a player who's a combination of  Rhys Patchell and Dan Jones and for peanuts too.Wink


Posted By: PE SA
Date Posted: 06 April 2017 at 8:06pm
Originally posted by Ffidel Bennett Ffidel Bennett wrote:


Why couldn't we have kept Aled Thomas then -does he want to leave? I suppose the thinking is we need somebody with experience who isn't expensive until one of our own shows they are ready.
 
Or has somebody told Pivac that he's found a player who's a combination of  Rhys Patchell and Dan Jones and for peanuts too.Wink

Already being a player coach, aled thomas MAY be retiring?

Think you've hit the nail on the head regarding us neejng cheap cover...as it is very possible that Patch and Dan Jones could be touring with Wales in the summer so we need options for start of season perhaps.


Posted By: Know if all
Date Posted: 06 April 2017 at 8:17pm
Originally posted by PE SA PE SA wrote:

Tom Prydie: very decent signing. Young. Welsh. Experienced. Never really had a go in a good backline with go forward ball. His time at the Ospreys was short lived and they didnt really bring him through despite his huge potential. Left for the dragons where he has notched up 90 appearances, but as I say, not in the best environment. Outside players like Scott, Foxy, Parkes, Mcnicholl, Patchell...he's in good company. Could be the making of him. Well worth bringing him in. 

Rhys Jones: Aled Thomas replacement perhaps? Let's be honest, we can not really go out and sign a very good number 10 when we already have 2. We need someone available, we need someone to be in the squad...Rhys Jones, especially if on a 7s contract, we will not be paying at all...if hes not on a 7s deal, he wont cost a lot. It is however a signing that shows exactly where Billy McBryde/Jack Maynard are...
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Amos and Hewitt are shining playing at the Dragons.

Prydie has never had huge potential, when has he had a decent game?!? Josh Adams should have been offered a contract....look at him now. lose Liam and DTH and gain Prydie......great recruitment


Posted By: ladram
Date Posted: 06 April 2017 at 8:23pm
those 2 signings will get people banging the door down to buy a season ticket.

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Posted By: super7
Date Posted: 06 April 2017 at 8:55pm
I think prydie will surprise a few people on here.

He's going to perform consistently and adds some speed out wide.

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Posted By: scarletnut
Date Posted: 06 April 2017 at 8:59pm
Originally posted by super7 super7 wrote:

I think prydie will surprise a few people on here.

He's going to perform consistently and adds some speed out wide.
That's what he lacks

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Posted By: dantheman
Date Posted: 06 April 2017 at 9:00pm
Jon Daniels basically just confirmed that Prydie was signing on Radio Wales.

Was asked about signing a no.8 but didn't really answer the question. Didn't fill me with confidence to be honest.


Posted By: Why
Date Posted: 06 April 2017 at 9:03pm
As usual people on here being negative before giving players chance same negativity about Johnnie Evans Gareth Owen Kruger Bullbring Tom Price before they came to name but a few.
Give them a chance for gods sake if they don't work out then no problem they will be cheap and we can't afford to pay silly wages. At worst Prydie be great back up for Johnnie and Rhys Jones will be adequate cover for Rhys and Dan. If one of them is playing out of skin and pushing for starting position then fantastic news but give them chance before writing them off.

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Posted By: Mugwuffin
Date Posted: 06 April 2017 at 9:10pm
Originally posted by shocker shocker wrote:

Can cover fullback, wing and centre. Plus he can kick. A good signing

Don't think he's played centre at pro level. He doesn't have the strength to play there.


Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 06 April 2017 at 9:39pm
Originally posted by Why Why wrote:

As usual people on here being negative before giving players chance same negativity about Johnnie Evans Gareth Owen Kruger Bullbring Tom Price before they came to name but a few.
Give them a chance for gods sake if they don't work out then no problem they will be cheap and we can't afford to pay silly wages. At worst Prydie be great back up for Johnnie and Rhys Jones will be adequate cover for Rhys and Dan. If one of them is playing out of skin and pushing for starting position then fantastic news but give them chance before writing them off.

Quite agree. When Prydie came on the scene it was a little like Giles now. Everyone was raving about his pace & try scoring attributes. He has lost his way somewhat - but the talent was there & provided the medical issues are resolved he is a reasonable punt. He is still only 25 & with top coaching and playing with top players week in week out he has a great chance to shine.


Posted By: 2ndtimeround
Date Posted: 06 April 2017 at 9:48pm
This is the 1st season that I've not really been to bothered about who we sign, not through lack of interest, simply through gaining a lot of confidence in the coaches recent ability to grow the strength of our squad.
Whoever we sign or don't I trust our coaching team more now than at any time in the 10 years I've been a season ticket holder. Keep up the good work guys.


Posted By: shocker
Date Posted: 07 April 2017 at 7:49am
He played 13 for the Dragons,if that counts


Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 07 April 2017 at 8:09am
Pivac was quick to point out the virtues of Macloed as a developing 8 within the portion around back row recruitment last night. I think we may well be ' in the market ' for an 8 in the same way as I'm in the market for Megan Fox.

First time I've met and heard Jon Daniels speak, mostly parables as you would expect from a role that walks the line between budgetary constraints and squad enhancements.

However he didn't give the impression that he/the Scarlets were being particularly bullish in the transfer market. If the right opportunity comes along we may well take it, but that was it.

In fairness it's not difficult to imagine that retaining the likes of Dan Jones, Elias, Ken, Rob Evs and others would take a sizeable bite out of the cash pie delivered by DTH and Sanjay's departure.

Failed to get my question about NDC's in. My bad.


Posted By: Ffidel Bennett
Date Posted: 07 April 2017 at 10:26am
Megan sends her love Wil. I've always thought Josh MacLeod deserved a little more time on the pitch than he has had . He's very quick, not quite the size to plough through tackles that I would favour, but if getting that type of 8 is beyond our means, then so be it - Faletau is a tremendous 8 but not enormous.
Condy is another that looks very good at lower levels but hasn't had much chance with the Scarlets yet -is he staying?


Posted By: Once a monkey
Date Posted: 07 April 2017 at 10:35am
Reading between the lines I suspect Condy is broken and cannot be fixed.
 
Josh definitely sees himself as an 8 moving forward, but when you look at him he doesn't look big enough. That said, he's actually just a little over 17 stone and still only a youngster. So he will perhaps chuck on another half a stone. He might perhaps be reflective of the more agile 8s you see around, more of a Talupe type player than a Nick Williams. I suspect we will utilise JB, Boyde and Josh over the next 12 months and see where we are then.
 


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Posted By: judith
Date Posted: 07 April 2017 at 11:39am
Originally posted by Once a monkey Once a monkey wrote:

Reading between the lines I suspect Condy is broken and cannot be fixed.
 
Josh definitely sees himself as an 8 moving forward, but when you look at him he doesn't look big enough. That said, he's actually just a little over 17 stone and still only a youngster. So he will perhaps chuck on another half a stone. He might perhaps be reflective of the more agile 8s you see around, more of a Talupe type player than a Nick Williams. I suspect we will utilise JB, Boyde and Josh over the next 12 months and see where we are then.
 


That would be such a huge shame for him if it turns out to be true. Fingers crossed it doesn't.

From what little I've seen of Josh, he looks like he needs to be shadowing Nicky Thomas at meal times. But no doubt he'll put the mass on as he gets older.


Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 07 April 2017 at 12:19pm
Pivac made a good point about our forward profile...we don't really pretend to be able to truck it up to the opposition...we prey mostly on the breakdown by being manned with dynamic back 5 players that jackal well and either catch the eye of the ref and/or force turnovers.


Posted By: surfing-mtber
Date Posted: 07 April 2017 at 12:58pm
Here's a link to the ScrumV radio broadcast if anyone is interested:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p04z8sw4" rel="nofollow - http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p04z8sw4


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Posted By: supertaf
Date Posted: 07 April 2017 at 1:34pm
Originally posted by Once a monkey Once a monkey wrote:

Reading between the lines I suspect Condy is broken and cannot be fixed.
 
Josh definitely sees himself as an 8 moving forward, but when you look at him he doesn't look big enough. That said, he's actually just a little over 17 stone and still only a youngster. So he will perhaps chuck on another half a stone. He might perhaps be reflective of the more agile 8s you see around, more of a Talupe type player than a Nick Williams. I suspect we will utilise JB, Boyde and Josh over the next 12 months and see where we are then.
 
Physically or mentally?


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Posted By: reesytheexile
Date Posted: 07 April 2017 at 2:43pm
Interesting in the SWEP this week Stevo still talking in glowing terms of the coaching group and the time to bed in the players at the start of the season and indeed what he has learned as a coach from Wayne Pivac. It's been good to see the negativity on Pivac stop and that the coaches are in tune. I find Pivac surprisingly open in meetings held to be fair.

This league is hugely competitive with nothing between the top 6 clubs. Fine margins and a bit of luck will come into the run in and hopefully no injuries!


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Posted By: dantheman
Date Posted: 07 April 2017 at 7:15pm
I think the point about the profile of our pack is a fair one. The back 5 of our pack is very mobile and seeks to carry in wider channels and target turnovers. It's served us OK so far this season and certainly given the improvements in the quality of pitches is a far more feasible game plan in the wilds of winter than it used to be.

That said I'd still like us to develop a better tight carrying game because it gives us more options and would provide us far more threat when attacking close to the try line. I think it's a key reason why we struggle to get winning bonus points. Ideally we would need a mobile 8 who can carry.

That's where Macloed comes in. There are plenty of successful 8s with his size profile. Warren Whitney is one of the best 8s in the SH and he's probably a similar size. If he can use his explosive pace off the mark he can be effective. I don't think we've seen enough of him in a Scarlets shirt to judge his potential yet. I can why Josh would see himself as an 8 because the competition in that position is far lower than at 7.

The guys when questioned put great emphasis on getting the right characters in the squad and wanting to do lots of due diligence on players before they sign. That's reasonable although I'd question whether we've always followed that approach. Certainly I don't think Paulinho with his ill discipline and appalling work rate fell into that category. We seem to use that line when it suits us.

I'd like us to take a bit more risks with recruitment at 8 than we do normally because the potential rewards are large.

I agree with Wil though it doesn't look like we are getting an 8 any time soon.


Posted By: Once a monkey
Date Posted: 10 April 2017 at 9:13am
Originally posted by supertaf supertaf wrote:

Originally posted by Once a monkey Once a monkey wrote:

Reading between the lines I suspect Condy is broken and cannot be fixed.
 
Josh definitely sees himself as an 8 moving forward, but when you look at him he doesn't look big enough. That said, he's actually just a little over 17 stone and still only a youngster. So he will perhaps chuck on another half a stone. He might perhaps be reflective of the more agile 8s you see around, more of a Talupe type player than a Nick Williams. I suspect we will utilise JB, Boyde and Josh over the next 12 months and see where we are then.
 
Physically or mentally?
I get the impression that they are managing the knee rather than fixing it. Cannot see how that can work long term if it is the case


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Posted By: Tim Opolis
Date Posted: 10 April 2017 at 1:28pm
Originally posted by Once a monkey Once a monkey wrote:

Originally posted by supertaf supertaf wrote:

Originally posted by Once a monkey Once a monkey wrote:

Reading between the lines I suspect Condy is broken and cannot be fixed.
 
Josh definitely sees himself as an 8 moving forward, but when you look at him he doesn't look big enough. That said, he's actually just a little over 17 stone and still only a youngster. So he will perhaps chuck on another half a stone. He might perhaps be reflective of the more agile 8s you see around, more of a Talupe type player than a Nick Williams. I suspect we will utilise JB, Boyde and Josh over the next 12 months and see where we are then.
 
Physically or mentally?
I get the impression that they are managing the knee rather than fixing it. Cannot see how that can work long term if it is the case
 
He's had at least 2 surgeries this season I believe they said, which haven't resolved the situation. Cracking lad with a huge desire and a fine player, wish his playing career well, but hope he also looks after himself first and foremost.


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Posted By: reesytheexile
Date Posted: 10 April 2017 at 1:54pm
Condy played a full game for Llanelli RFC yesterday with plenty of aggression. 

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Posted By: ap sior
Date Posted: 10 April 2017 at 2:36pm
Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:

Condy played a full game for Llanelli RFC yesterday with plenty of aggression. 

Good to hear that. However as OAM has said, they are I believe managing the knee, so Jack may not play next week if there is a game.

Seems like we may have a situation similar to Ashley Beck who can only manage limited game time. In his case I believe it's his hip that's the problem.


Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 10 April 2017 at 3:19pm
Lets hope an answer can be found or it seems that a very good potential 1st team 8 may not make it due to injury. Unfortunately these things are part & parcel of the game. Clearly he is rated by all at the Parc. 


Posted By: Once a monkey
Date Posted: 10 April 2017 at 3:26pm
Originally posted by Tim Opolis Tim Opolis wrote:

Originally posted by Once a monkey Once a monkey wrote:

Originally posted by supertaf supertaf wrote:

Originally posted by Once a monkey Once a monkey wrote:

Reading between the lines I suspect Condy is broken and cannot be fixed.
 
Josh definitely sees himself as an 8 moving forward, but when you look at him he doesn't look big enough. That said, he's actually just a little over 17 stone and still only a youngster. So he will perhaps chuck on another half a stone. He might perhaps be reflective of the more agile 8s you see around, more of a Talupe type player than a Nick Williams. I suspect we will utilise JB, Boyde and Josh over the next 12 months and see where we are then.
 
Physically or mentally?
I get the impression that they are managing the knee rather than fixing it. Cannot see how that can work long term if it is the case
 
He's had at least 2 surgeries this season I believe they said, which haven't resolved the situation. Cracking lad with a huge desire and a fine player, wish his playing career well, but hope he also looks after himself first and foremost.
He seems a really nice kid, so I hope very muchly that I am wrong and it is a salvageable situation. We have got some real depth at back row now, albeit more Pro 12 standard than RCC1 imo


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Posted By: scar123
Date Posted: 10 April 2017 at 3:56pm
Really hoping the club are monitoring the Super Rugby situation a fair few number 8's will be coming off contract once 3 sides are dropped. Wouldn't mind attempting to go after someone like Ben McCalman if the Force go.


Posted By: Ffidel Bennett
Date Posted: 10 April 2017 at 5:57pm
Originally posted by ap sior ap sior wrote:

Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:

Condy played a full game for Llanelli RFC yesterday with plenty of aggression. 

Good to hear that. However as OAM has said, they are I believe managing the knee, so Jack may not play next week if there is a game.

Seems like we may have a situation similar to Ashley Beck who can only manage limited game time. In his case I believe it's his hip that's the problem.
 
Even if Condy's knee must be managed and he misses some games, he has still made a bigger impact than Morgan Allen. Give me 10 all-out efforts a season rather than 20 ineffective performances, any day.
These days most top players are managed anyway and one that plays 20 games a season is a rare bird.
  


Posted By: ap sior
Date Posted: 10 April 2017 at 5:58pm
Originally posted by Ffidel Bennett Ffidel Bennett wrote:

Originally posted by ap sior ap sior wrote:

Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:

Condy played a full game for Llanelli RFC yesterday with plenty of aggression. 

Good to hear that. However as OAM has said, they are I believe managing the knee, so Jack may not play next week if there is a game.

Seems like we may have a situation similar to Ashley Beck who can only manage limited game time. In his case I believe it's his hip that's the problem.
 
Even if Condy's knee must be managed and he misses some games, he has still made a bigger impact than Morgan Allen. Give me 10 all-out efforts a season rather than 20 ineffective performances, any day.
These days most top players are managed anyway and one that plays 20 games a season is a rare bird.
  

I agree wholeheartedly, and I very much hope that this is what the management have in mind for Jack.


Posted By: SospanMawr
Date Posted: 10 April 2017 at 7:16pm
Let's be careful that we don't overestimate Condy. He's only played 13 games for us, with only 10 of those being league or European games.
Is he really good enough to be in the squad if he can only play 10 games a year? Even with Ashley Beck, before injury troubles limited him he was a top regional player and an international.


Posted By: Mr Ian
Date Posted: 11 April 2017 at 6:28am
given that I m for supporting local talents, an 8 I would like to see in Scarlets is the italian Ruzza from Zebres, he played well against us and in the last two weeks he did tries...He is a development profile and he is in exit from Zebre


Posted By: thommo
Date Posted: 11 April 2017 at 8:49am
Originally posted by Mr Ian Mr Ian wrote:

given that I m for supporting local talents, an 8 I would like to see in Scarlets is the italian Ruzza from Zebres, he played well against us and in the last two weeks he did tries...He is a development profile and he is in exit from Zebre

We have enough development coming through. We need an established proven 8. I see your point from a financial viewpoint, but would prefer PIvac picking up a south sea islander.


Posted By: Ffidel Bennett
Date Posted: 11 April 2017 at 11:08am
Have we any promising 8s coming through the age grades? I watch Rygbi Pawb whenever there is a Scarlets side being shown and I can't say that I've noticed an effective 8 coming through. Condy is the only development 8 that I can see unless you count Boyde who has covered very well for Barclay but isn't really the carrying 8 that would complete our pack and give us more options in attack.


Posted By: ExileTom
Date Posted: 11 April 2017 at 11:17am
Hasn't it been said that we see Macleod as our future at 8?


Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 11 April 2017 at 1:24pm
It sounds to me that Pivac sees Mcloud as our future 8 and most importantly it seems that Josh sees that as well. He is explosive pace wise and if he can beef up a little over the off season he may well be starting at 8 come September. I really hope that Condy can find some long term solution to his knee issue and then we will have decent cover. 


Posted By: aber-fan
Date Posted: 11 April 2017 at 1:43pm
Macleod is clearly a very promising young player - I'm not quite sure what the 'tale of the tape' tells us about him - is he/will he become big enough? He looks quite 'tall' for a carrying 8 at the moment - Condy is more the right 'shape' (weight low to the ground) if he could overcome his knee issues.

Anyway - the very best of luck to both of them - it would be superb if either or both developed into a first choice 8, allowing Barclay more time on the flank in rotation with Cubby/Boyde/Shingler.


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Posted By: supertaf
Date Posted: 11 April 2017 at 3:58pm
Originally posted by aber-fan aber-fan wrote:

Macleod is clearly a very promising young player - I'm not quite sure what the 'tale of the tape' tells us about him - is he/will he become big enough? He looks quite 'tall' for a carrying 8 at the moment - Condy is more the right 'shape' (weight low to the ground) if he could overcome his knee issues.

Anyway - the very best of luck to both of them - it would be superb if either or both developed into a first choice 8, allowing Barclay more time on the flank in rotation with Cubby/Boyde/Shingler.
To be fair, Quinnell wasn't massive when he first started out and added fill over a few seasons. Copsey was also a pretty slim build to start and then became a pretty imposing player. That said I would still love a big Polynesian at 8.


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Posted By: PearlJam
Date Posted: 11 April 2017 at 4:17pm
Originally posted by supertaf supertaf wrote:

To be fair, Quinnell wasn't massive when he first started out and added fill over a few seasons. Copsey was also a pretty slim build to start and then became a pretty imposing player. That said I would still love a big Polynesian at 8.

Timani, Pauhlino, Jonny Fatmaninawetsuit - why must be keep on with the "big Polynesian" angle?



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Posted By: Exkixu
Date Posted: 11 April 2017 at 4:29pm
Originally posted by PearlJam PearlJam wrote:

Originally posted by supertaf supertaf wrote:

To be fair, Quinnell wasn't massive when he first started out and added fill over a few seasons. Copsey was also a pretty slim build to start and then became a pretty imposing player. That said I would still love a big Polynesian at 8.

Timani, Pauhlino, Jonny Fatmaninawetsuit - why must be keep on with the "big Polynesian" angle?


You're forgetting Chris Hala'off'ia there...


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Posted By: PearlJam
Date Posted: 11 April 2017 at 4:33pm
Originally posted by Exkixu Exkixu wrote:

Originally posted by PearlJam PearlJam wrote:

Originally posted by supertaf supertaf wrote:

To be fair, Quinnell wasn't massive when he first started out and added fill over a few seasons. Copsey was also a pretty slim build to start and then became a pretty imposing player. That said I would still love a big Polynesian at 8.

Timani, Pauhlino, Jonny Fatmaninawetsuit - why must be keep on with the "big Polynesian" angle?


You're forgetting Chris Hala'off'ia there...

Oh, Christ... I forgot he was ever with us. His, approximate, zero appearances for the Scarlets were particularly memorable. 



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Posted By: BlackwoodScarlet
Date Posted: 11 April 2017 at 4:46pm
Not many super sized 8's playing in super rugby

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Posted By: supertaf
Date Posted: 11 April 2017 at 4:49pm
Originally posted by PearlJam PearlJam wrote:

Originally posted by supertaf supertaf wrote:

To be fair, Quinnell wasn't massive when he first started out and added fill over a few seasons. Copsey was also a pretty slim build to start and then became a pretty imposing player. That said I would still love a big Polynesian at 8.

Timani, Pauhlino, Jonny Fatmaninawetsuit - why must be keep on with the "big Polynesian" angle?

Ok  maybe a `good` Polynesian is a more accurate statement.  Plenty around but we never get close to them.


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Posted By: 157cb
Date Posted: 11 April 2017 at 4:53pm
Originally posted by Ffidel Bennett Ffidel Bennett wrote:

Have we any promising 8s coming through the age grades? I watch Rygbi Pawb whenever there is a Scarlets side being shown and I can't say that I've noticed an effective 8 coming through. Condy is the only development 8 that I can see unless you count Boyde who has covered very well for Barclay but isn't really the carrying 8 that would complete our pack and give us more options in attack.

 Scarlets under 16s number 8 and captain Sam Williams,looks a good prospect as scored 5 tries in his last two age grade games.

  Sam reminds me of C.J.Stander,with his all action performances and ball carrying ...



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