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Topic: Team vs Racing?
Posted By: diego6754
Subject: Team vs Racing?
Date Posted: 11 October 2018 at 3:50pm
Okay here's mine….

15. Halfpenny
14. McNichol
13. Foxy
12. Parkes
11. Asquith
10. Patch
9. SHC
8. Blade
7. Boyde
6. Kennedy
5. Bulbring
4. Ball
3. Samson
2. Ken
1. Wyn

16. Ryan
17. Rob
18. Kruger
19. Tom Price
20. Josh
21. Cawdor
22. Dan Jones
23. Steff

Debatable ones are Asquith instead of Steff, SHC instead of Cawdor and Wyn instead of Rob. The first two choices are just learning from the mistakes we made against bath last season when Priestland booted us off the park. Better tactical kickers and Cawdor and Steff could be huge off the bench if the conditions improve through the match. If conditions are as forecast I think it could be a case of play for territory and let Halfpenny do the rest.

Wyn instead of Rob, Wyn offers a touch more at set piece and he has a good record of knicking the odd turnover, plus Rob hasn't played for a few weeks.



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Posted By: crj89
Date Posted: 11 October 2018 at 3:58pm
Mine would be...

15. Leigh Halfpenny
14. Jonny McNichol
13. Jonathan Davies
12. Hadleigh Parkes
11. Steff Evans
10. Rhys Patchell
9. Gareth Davies
8. Blade Thomson
7. Will Boyde
6. Ed Kennedy
5. David Bulbring
4. Jake Ball
3. Samson Lee
2. Ken Owens
1. Rob Evans

16. Ryan Elias
17. Wyn Jones
18. Werner Kruger
19. Tom Price
20. Josh Macloed
21. Sam Hidalgo Clyne
22. Dan Jones
23. Paul Asquith



Posted By: Fscarlet
Date Posted: 11 October 2018 at 4:01pm
Mine would be...

15. Leigh Halfpenny
14. Jonny McNichol
13. Jonathan Davies
12. Hadleigh Parkes
11. Paul Asquith
10. Rhys Patchell
9. Gareth Davies
8. Blade Thomson
7. Will Boyde
6. Ed Kennedy
5. David Bulbring
4. Jake Ball
3. Samson Lee
2. Ken Owens
1. Rob Evans

16. Ryan Elias
17. Wyn Jones
18. Werner Kruger
19. Tom Price
20. Josh Macloed
21. Sam Hidalgo Clyne
22. Dan Jones
23. Steff Evans


Posted By: TheKing
Date Posted: 11 October 2018 at 4:07pm
Will be very disappointed if Steff doesn’t start. If JD is fit, he starts but if not then Asquith.


Posted By: Havard Fan
Date Posted: 11 October 2018 at 5:47pm
I would go for similar


15. Leigh Halfpenny

14. Jonny McNichol

13. Jonathan Davies

12. Hadleigh Parkes

11. Steff Evs

10. Rhys Patchell

9. Gareth Davies

8. Blade Thomson

7. Will Boyde

6. Josh McLeod

5. David Bulbring

4. Jake Ball

3. Samson Lee

2. Ken Owens

1. Wyn Jones


16. Ryan Elias

17. Rob Evans

18. Werner Kruger

19. Tom Price

20. Ed Kennedy

21. Sam Hidalgo Clyne

22. Dan Jones

23. Paul Asquith

Commeth the hour, Commeth the man. I think Steff Evs is back off the naughty / back to form step and ready to rock for Saturday. I would go for McLeod for 6 instead of kennedy, to provide us with an additional jacklers. Also Wyn Jones to start for me. Playing a lot better than Rob at the moment and I think Rob subbing will be good for him in the long run. Rest of the team picks itself though.

We need quick phase ball when we are in possession to run their big pack off their feet. Two 7's will do that. They will also, hopefully, provide a few turn overs to attack from. Nice options though.


Posted By: gorau
Date Posted: 11 October 2018 at 5:51pm
My team:
15- Leigh Halfpenny
14- Johnny McNicholl
13- Jonathan Davies
12- Hadleigh Parkes
11- Steff Evans
10- Rhys Patchell
9- Gareth Davies
8- Blade Thomson
7- Will Boyde
6- Ed Kennedy
5- David Bulbring
4- Jake Ball
3- Samson Lee
2- Ken Owens
1- Wyn Jones

Replacements
16- Ryan Elias
17- Rob Evans (he should start on the bench as Wyn has been playing well)
18- Werner Kruger
19- Steve Cummins / Tom Price
20- Josh Mcleod
21- Sam Hidalgo Clyne
22- Angus O'Brian
23- Paul Asquith


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Posted By: Ffidel Bennett
Date Posted: 11 October 2018 at 5:56pm
I'd go for -
15. Leigh Halfpenny
14. Jonny McNichol
13. Jonathan Davies
12. Hadleigh Parkes
11. Paul Asquith
10. Rhys Patchell
9. Gareth Davies
8. Blade Thomson
7. Will Boyde
6. Ed Kennedy
5. David Bulbring
4. Jake Ball
3. Samson Lee
2. Ken Owens
1. Wyn Jones

16. Ryan Elias
17. Rob Evans
18. Werner Kruger
19. Tom Price
20. Josh MacLeod
21. Sam Hidalgo Clyne
22. Angus O'Brien
23. Steff Evans


Posted By: Maple
Date Posted: 11 October 2018 at 6:11pm
I'd go for Angus O'Brien in place of Dan Jones.

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Posted By: ScarletBear
Date Posted: 11 October 2018 at 6:16pm
15. Halfpenny
14. McNichol
13. Foxy
12. Parkes
11. Asquith
10. Patch
9. SHC
8. Blade
7. Boyde
6. Kennedy
5. Bulbring
4. Ball
3. Samson
2. Ken
1. Rob

16. Ryan
17. Wyn
18. Kruger
19. Tom Price
20. Josh
21. Cawdor
22. Dan Jones
23. Steff


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Posted By: 157cb
Date Posted: 11 October 2018 at 7:03pm
Originally posted by gorau gorau wrote:

My team:
15- Leigh Halfpenny
14- Johnny McNicholl
13- Jonathan Davies
12- Hadleigh Parkes
11- Steff Evans
10- Rhys Patchell
9- Gareth Davies
8- Blade Thomson
7- Will Boyde
6- Ed Kennedy
5- David Bulbring
4- Jake Ball
3- Samson Lee
2- Ken Owens
1- Wyn Jones

Replacements
16- Ryan Elias
17- Rob Evans (he should start on the bench as Wyn has been playing well)
18- Werner Kruger
19- Steve Cummins / Tom Price
20- Josh Mcleod
21- Sam Hidalgo Clyne
22- Angus O'Brian
23- Paul Asquith

  I would not argue with that 23,Cummins his out for another 2 weeks .


Posted By: scarlets 4eva
Date Posted: 11 October 2018 at 7:23pm
I've heard from a good source that Patchell is out and Angus O'Brien will start

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Posted By: greypower1
Date Posted: 11 October 2018 at 7:36pm
Originally posted by Maple Maple wrote:

I'd go for Angus O'Brien in place of Dan Jones.

Why? O'Brian has never been exposed to this quality of opposition. Dan has won us games in Europe. He has also played a few A games whilst easing his way back to full fitness.
Dan for me on this occasion (the weather will also suit Dan's kicking game more than O'Brian's running game)

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Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 11 October 2018 at 7:51pm
Originally posted by crj89 crj89 wrote:

Mine would be...

15. Leigh Halfpenny
14. Jonny McNichol
13. Jonathan Davies
12. Hadleigh Parkes
11. Steff Evans
10. Rhys Patchell
9. Gareth Davies
8. Blade Thomson
7. Will Boyde
6. Ed Kennedy
5. David Bulbring
4. Jake Ball
3. Samson Lee
2. Ken Owens
1. Rob Evans

16. Ryan Elias
17. Wyn Jones
18. Werner Kruger
19. Tom Price
20. Josh Macloed
21. Sam Hidalgo Clyne
22. Dan Jones
23. Paul Asquith




This looks close to what I think. Patch has to pass a HIA.


Posted By: Havard Fan
Date Posted: 11 October 2018 at 7:58pm
Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

Originally posted by crj89 crj89 wrote:

Mine would be...

15. Leigh Halfpenny
14. Jonny McNichol
13. Jonathan Davies
12. Hadleigh Parkes
11. Steff Evans
10. Rhys Patchell
9. Gareth Davies
8. Blade Thomson
7. Will Boyde
6. Ed Kennedy
5. David Bulbring
4. Jake Ball
3. Samson Lee
2. Ken Owens
1. Rob Evans

16. Ryan Elias
17. Wyn Jones
18. Werner Kruger
19. Tom Price
20. Josh Macloed
21. Sam Hidalgo Clyne
22. Dan Jones
23. Paul Asquith




This looks close to what I think. Patch has to pass a HIA.


This raises some concern as Patchell would have needed to pass his HIA to come back on in the last game. I was really surprised to see him come back TBH. Are you aware, Will, if Patch has had some symptoms since the game or is this an additional precaution?


Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 11 October 2018 at 8:03pm
There’s a follow on review by medical staff, normally just a routine ‘pass check’ when a player has already passed an in game assessment. Not sure if he’ possibly had a couple of mild symptom perhaps.


Posted By: Havard Fan
Date Posted: 11 October 2018 at 8:06pm
Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

There’s a follow on review by medical staff, normally just a routine ‘pass check’ when a player has already passed an in game assessment. Not sure if he’ possibly had a couple of mild symptom perhaps.


Cheers Will.

Really need Patch the next couple of weeks, however if he can't make it, Dan J hasn't let us down in the past.

Really like the teams mentioned, but what wouldn't we give for Cubby, Barlay or Beirne back for the weekend.


Posted By: Matthew Cardey
Date Posted: 11 October 2018 at 11:32pm
Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

There’s a follow on review by medical staff, normally just a routine ‘pass check’ when a player has already passed an in game assessment. Not sure if he’ possibly had a couple of mild symptom perhaps.


He ll be out for saturday, suprised he came back on against the ospreys.


Posted By: aber-fan
Date Posted: 12 October 2018 at 6:19am
Originally posted by Matthew Cardey Matthew Cardey wrote:

Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

There’s a follow on review by medical staff, normally just a routine ‘pass check’ when a player has already passed an in game assessment. Not sure if he’ possibly had a couple of mild symptom perhaps.


He ll be out for saturday, suprised he came back on against the ospreys.

 
That's a pity, assuming it is confirmed. I was surprised to see him come back too, BTW.

I'd go for Dan in that case - the forecast isn't good, so a long and accurate kicking game might be very useful.


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Posted By: scarletabroad
Date Posted: 12 October 2018 at 7:53am
Just watching the weather Wales has a severe weather warning with potential power cuts Sat and Sun


Posted By: Matthew Cardey
Date Posted: 12 October 2018 at 8:47am
Originally posted by scarletabroad scarletabroad wrote:

Just watching the weather Wales has a severe weather warning with potential power cuts Sat and Sun


How funny is it we are going to end up with the same weather as for last years opener against bath. Hopefully we will have learnt a few lessons from that friday night.


Posted By: TheKing
Date Posted: 12 October 2018 at 9:10am
If Patchel is out and Dan is 10, I’m not too concerned - he’s proved himself in big games many times.

If he’s out and O’brien Is selected, then I’m flabbergasted and very concerned.


Posted By: greypower1
Date Posted: 12 October 2018 at 9:34am
About the weather. Can't the game be re-scheduled to Sunday when the weather will be more conducive to the occasion?

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Posted By: Fscarlet
Date Posted: 12 October 2018 at 9:46am
Originally posted by greypower1 greypower1 wrote:

About the weather. Can't the game be re-scheduled to Sunday when the weather will be more conducive to the occasion?


I imagine the call would be made very late in the day if it is to be moved.


Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 12 October 2018 at 10:00am
Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

Originally posted by greypower1 greypower1 wrote:

About the weather. Can't the game be re-scheduled to Sunday when the weather will be more conducive to the occasion?


I imagine the call would be made very late in the day if it is to be moved.

The weather forecast for tomorrow is far better than the Bath game last year so I don't understand the talk of postponement. Games aren't moved because the weather is better for goodness sake. 


Posted By: greypower1
Date Posted: 12 October 2018 at 10:21am
I don't think we had 60mph winds on the Bath day. Will the French be able to fly into Cardiff/ Bristol? Will people be advised not to travel, Health and Safety around the ground? Waterlogged pitch causing injury risk to highly paid players.
As you can guess I really don't fancy dragging my 75 year old body out to watch two highly skilled teams try and master the art of mud wrestling, not what I signed up for ⛈⛈

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Posted By: Matthew Cardey
Date Posted: 12 October 2018 at 11:54am
Originally posted by greypower1 greypower1 wrote:

I don't think we had 60mph winds on the Bath day. Will the French be able to fly into Cardiff/ Bristol? Will people be advised not to travel, Health and Safety around the ground? Waterlogged pitch causing injury risk to highly paid players.
As you can guess I really don't fancy dragging my 75 year old body out to watch two highly skilled teams try and master the art of mud wrestling, not what I signed up for ⛈⛈


We forcasted for 60mph? Where have you seen that?


Posted By: reesytheexile
Date Posted: 12 October 2018 at 12:05pm
Hopefully a nice rough trip over for the opposition 🤗

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Posted By: dyniol53
Date Posted: 12 October 2018 at 12:06pm
Originally posted by TheKing TheKing wrote:

If Patchel is out and Dan is 10, I’m not too concerned - he’s proved himself in big games many times.

If he’s out and O’brien Is selected, then I’m flabbergasted and very concerned.


Express your concerns!

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Posted By: Captain
Date Posted: 12 October 2018 at 12:08pm
Just reported Angus starts


Posted By: KID A
Date Posted: 12 October 2018 at 12:18pm
Them:

Zebo, Rokocoko, Klemenczak, Chavancy, Russell, Chauveau, Gogichashvili, Chat, Gomes Sa, Ryan, Nakarawa, Lauret, Chouzenoux, Claassen

Reps: Baubignu, Ben Arous, Johnston, Bird, Palu, Iribaren, Volavola, Vakatawa

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https://twitter.com/Smallclone/status/985790016319315968" rel="nofollow - Top 25 European tries of all time


Posted By: PE SA
Date Posted: 12 October 2018 at 12:26pm
as expected, this is going to be a tough and physical battle - but at home, we have to back our selves. simlpe as that.


Posted By: TheKing
Date Posted: 12 October 2018 at 12:27pm
Originally posted by KID A KID A wrote:

Them:

Zebo, Rokocoko, Klemenczak, Chavancy, Russell, Chauveau, Gogichashvili, Chat, Gomes Sa, Ryan, Nakarawa, Lauret, Chouzenoux, Claassen

Reps: Baubignu, Ben Arous, Johnston, Bird, Palu, Iribaren, Volavola, Vakatawa


Finn Russell playing wing?



Posted By: PE SA
Date Posted: 12 October 2018 at 12:36pm
Halfpenny, McNicholl, Foxy, Parkes, Steff Evs, OBrien, Cawdor, Wyn, Ken, Samson, Jake, Bullbring, Ed, Boyde, Thomson.
REPS: Elias, Rob Evs, Kruger, Tom Price, Macleod, SHC, Dan, Asquith


Posted By: cymru2006
Date Posted: 12 October 2018 at 12:36pm
Angus big boot could be a key factor. We need to play territory and live if mistakes. We have the best place kicker in the world and it’s when we have conditions like this it may be to our benefit.

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Posted By: 157cb
Date Posted: 12 October 2018 at 12:40pm
  Excellent 23 all things considered watched Racing play Stade and there scrum was under serious pressure we can target them there..


Posted By: BigRed1
Date Posted: 12 October 2018 at 9:04pm
Leinster looking ominous against Wasps.
Currently leading 28 - 3 against Wasps.


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Posted By: BigRed1
Date Posted: 12 October 2018 at 10:37pm
Originally posted by BigRed1 BigRed1 wrote:

Leinster looking ominous against Wasps.
Currently leading 28 - 3 against Wasps.
FT 52 - 3
Calls into question the standard of the EPL?


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Posted By: PritchyTheScarlet
Date Posted: 13 October 2018 at 12:56am
Originally posted by BigRed1 BigRed1 wrote:

Originally posted by BigRed1 BigRed1 wrote:

Leinster looking ominous against Wasps.
Currently leading 28 - 3 against Wasps.
FT 52 - 3
Calls into question the standard of the EPL?

The Premiership is as overrated as ever. In reality, it's Saracens, Exeter and the rest. Outside those two, the teams are bang average.


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Posted By: Grammar School Boy
Date Posted: 13 October 2018 at 3:41am
Originally posted by PritchyTheScarlet PritchyTheScarlet wrote:

Originally posted by BigRed1 BigRed1 wrote:

Originally posted by BigRed1 BigRed1 wrote:

Leinster looking ominous against Wasps.
Currently leading 28 - 3 against Wasps.
FT 52 - 3
Calls into question the standard of the EPL?

The Premiership is as overrated as ever. In reality, it's Saracens, Exeter and the rest. Outside those two, the teams are bang average.

Also timely yellow cards affect the outcome


Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 13 October 2018 at 6:51am
Winning ugly is a thing of beauty.

That’s what I think about today. All starts at the gain line for me. Like many French teams, the pack are proficient carriers and the back then get front foot ball. Hold them at the gain line, let it become an arm wrestle, and we will do well.

The only concern I have is the lack of proven jackalers in our ranks. Looking to Boyde really. We have depended more than most on our turnover prowess for tries in recent seasons.


Posted By: Huwbach
Date Posted: 13 October 2018 at 7:49am
Boyde will have to roll his sleeves up today. Also expect a big game from blade. Good luck to Angus, he must be chuffed to go from the dragons to this.


Posted By: Huwbach
Date Posted: 13 October 2018 at 7:52am
Originally posted by dyniol53 dyniol53 wrote:

Originally posted by TheKing TheKing wrote:

If Patchel is out and Dan is 10, I’m not too concerned - he’s proved himself in big games many times.

If he’s out and O’brien Is selected, then I’m flabbergasted and very concerned.


Express your concerns!


Angus has been brilliant from what I’ve seen of him. Confident too. Good luck boi.


Posted By: PE SA
Date Posted: 13 October 2018 at 8:12am
It’s going to be tough. It’s going to be physical.
Our defence needs to be up for it and our pack need to at least be equal to theirs.
It comes down to the best performing pack and penalties imo.
We need to go hard on russell. We’ve put him off his game plenty of times before, we need to do it again.
Any chance of getting something on the scoreboard we simply have to take. Our rolling maul is not up to scratch so a penalty anywhere that’s kickable HAS to be taken.

A word for Angus OBrien. His first start for us I believe. He’s done well. This fixture could be a real marker for him. His first start and his first European Cup game. Go well.

Ymlaen. Cadwr ffydd. Cerddwn Ymlaen. Yma O Hyd.


Posted By: Winston
Date Posted: 13 October 2018 at 8:14am
So guys. What of the weather. Travelling from Bridgend.   Seems much worse with you. Really really want to be there but all advice is not to travel.


Posted By: SAV
Date Posted: 13 October 2018 at 8:22am
Take it easy winston , it will blow over later . Swansea ok at moment .

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Posted By: Winston
Date Posted: 13 October 2018 at 8:24am
Hammering down in Llanharan. Yes I could watch on BT Sport. But you don’t get the atmosphere


Posted By: BigRed1
Date Posted: 13 October 2018 at 8:30am
Originally posted by SAV SAV wrote:

Take it easy winston , it will blow over later . Swansea ok at moment .
I hope you are right. I'd hate to watch a mud wrestling competition instead of a game of rugby.
Mind you, mud wrestling with 30 naked women, now there's a prospect. Confused


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Posted By: greypower1
Date Posted: 13 October 2018 at 8:45am
Originally posted by Winston Winston wrote:

So guys. What of the weather. Travelling from Bridgend.   Seems much worse with you. Really really want to be there but all advice is not to travel.

Who is advising not to travel?
If it's the Police the the rugby authorities are duty bound to call the game off surely???

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Posted By: KID A
Date Posted: 13 October 2018 at 8:46am
Originally posted by greypower1 greypower1 wrote:

Originally posted by Winston Winston wrote:

So guys. What of the weather. Travelling from Bridgend.   Seems much worse with you. Really really want to be there but all advice is not to travel.

Who is advising not to travel?
If it's the Police the the rugby authorities are duty bound to call the game off surely???

Train companies. They've advised no trains between carmarthen and swansea after 7pm. Which is unfortunate.

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Posted By: Winston
Date Posted: 13 October 2018 at 8:48am
South Wales fire service


Posted By: judith
Date Posted: 13 October 2018 at 11:17am
Not going to risk the 4 hour journey down from north Wales, unfortunately. Gutted but just too far and uncertaintly over a lot of the roads (plus lots of little ones that we take to get there!)


Posted By: Flaggman
Date Posted: 13 October 2018 at 11:22am
Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

Winning ugly is a thing of beauty.

That’s what I think about today. All starts at the gain line for me. Like many French teams, the pack are proficient carriers and the back then get front foot ball. Hold them at the gain line, let it become an arm wrestle, and we will do well.

The only concern I have is the lack of proven jackalers in our ranks. Looking to Boyde really. We have depended more than most on our turnover prowess for tries in recent seasons.


I’m hoping Wyn Jones is going to contribute to the turnover count as well. He’s been excellent in this area in the past.



Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 13 October 2018 at 11:39am
Originally posted by Flaggman Flaggman wrote:

Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

Winning ugly is a thing of beauty.

That’s what I think about today. All starts at the gain line for me. Like many French teams, the pack are proficient carriers and the back then get front foot ball. Hold them at the gain line, let it become an arm wrestle, and we will do well.

The only concern I have is the lack of proven jackalers in our ranks. Looking to Boyde really. We have depended more than most on our turnover prowess for tries in recent seasons.


I’m hoping Wyn Jones is going to contribute to the turnover count as well. He’s been excellent in this area in the past.


Yes indeed Wil the gainline is extremely important & we have been a bit hit and miss in that area so far this season. On the subject of turnovers I have noticed that they are a not as frequent this season in any games I've watched until of course Thomas Young gave a brilliant display in getting 4 against Leinster last night. Even Tadhg who had an otherwise great game against Leinster last week had no turnovers I can recall. 

As for our jackalers  no side in Europe wouldn't miss Cubby but I feel that others like Wyn, Samson, Kennedy, Blade & Boyde in particular need & will step up. Hard yards are going to be key today with the weather conditions dictating events to a point. Lets see how up for the fight they are if they get no easy yards - when they get ball make it slow and get in Russell's face. Their captain & 12 Chavancy is a good player with a big heart so Hadleigh will need to pressurise him. Steff vs Thomas is a mouth watering prospect.



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