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Topic: Tyler Morgan,Johnny Williams ??
Posted By: 157cb
Subject: Tyler Morgan,Johnny Williams ??
Date Posted: 15 April 2020 at 11:13am
  
  Strong talk on social media we have signed these two players. With regards Tyler its coming from Dragons supporters .

 Some stats with regarding the above .


   Tyler Morgan, aged 24 ,6ft 1in. 16st 1lb. Centre/wing  89 appearances Dragons,60 points ,Wales 5 games,5 points and Wales under 20s, 8 games and 10 points . If there is ever  anyone who deserves an injury free run its this hugely talented player.

  Johnny Williams 23, 6ft 3in,16st 7lbs. centre. London  Irish 51 appearances and 60 points. Newcastle Falcons,17 games and 5 tries . Johnny played an uncapped game for England scoring a try (So he is still Welsh Qualified). He played five games for England 20s ,scored 15 points . 

  A great story about the Johnny! he as just recovered from testicular cancer and returned to play in January .









































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Posted By: ladram
Date Posted: 15 April 2020 at 11:21am
Originally posted by 157cb 157cb wrote:

  
  Strong talk on social media we have signed these two players. With regards Tyler its coming from Dragons supporters .

 Some stats with regarding the above .


   Tyler Morgan, aged 24 ,6ft 1in. 16st 1lb. Centre/wing  89 appearances Dragons,60 points ,Wales 5 games,5 points and Wales under 20s, 8 games and 10 points . If there is ever  anyone who deserves an injury free run its this hugely talented player.

  Johnny Williams 23, 6ft 3in,16st 7lbs. centre. London  Irish 51 appearances and 60 points. Newcastle Falcons,17 games and 5 tries . Johnny played an uncapped game for England scoring a try (So he is still Welsh Qualified). He played five games for England 20s ,scored 15 points . 

  A great story about the Johnny! he as just recovered from testicular cancer and returned to play in January .






































impressive stats for sure mark but they were when he was fit if the dragons couldn't keep him fit what makes us think we can?it's cefn sidan not lourdesBig smile


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Posted By: Dic Penderyn
Date Posted: 15 April 2020 at 11:43am
Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

Originally posted by 157cb 157cb wrote:

  
  Strong talk on social media we have signed these two players. With regards Tyler its coming from Dragons supporters .

 Some stats with regarding the above .


   Tyler Morgan, aged 24 ,6ft 1in. 16st 1lb. Centre/wing  89 appearances Dragons,60 points ,Wales 5 games,5 points and Wales under 20s, 8 games and 10 points . If there is ever  anyone who deserves an injury free run its this hugely talented player.

  Johnny Williams 23, 6ft 3in,16st 7lbs. centre. London  Irish 51 appearances and 60 points. Newcastle Falcons,17 games and 5 tries . Johnny played an uncapped game for England scoring a try (So he is still Welsh Qualified). He played five games for England 20s ,scored 15 points . 

  A great story about the Johnny! he as just recovered from testicular cancer and returned to play in January .






































impressive stats for sure mark but they were when he was fit if the dragons couldn't keep him fit what makes us think we can?it's cefn sidan not lourdesBig smile

LOLLOLLOL..dipped in the healing waters of the Lliedi


Posted By: supertaf
Date Posted: 15 April 2020 at 11:46am
Tyler is a quality player just always seems injury prone sadly. Would love to see him have a good run of fitness.
I also thought we were linked with Joe Thomas from Tigers?


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Posted By: 157cb
Date Posted: 15 April 2020 at 11:50am
Originally posted by supertaf supertaf wrote:

Tyler is a quality player just always seems injury prone sadly. Would love to see him have a good run of fitness.
I also thought we were linked with Joe Thomas from Tigers?

    I think we have pulled plug on him. So its the two centres in the thread and one other .


Posted By: stradeyscarlet72
Date Posted: 15 April 2020 at 11:51am
Yes , there’s been talk of joe Thomas.  With hadleigh and fonotia probably going and Baldwin gone - we need at least three players in ASAP. It makes sense to get joe as he’s played in the premiership with Leicester. 


Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 15 April 2020 at 11:55am
Williams and morgan are v good players. both have their fitness / health  issues
 
if both can stay fit they will both do really well , Williams has been involved with the England set up prior to his illness


Posted By: diego6754
Date Posted: 15 April 2020 at 2:04pm
Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:


Williams and morgan are v good players. both have their fitness / health  issues
 
if both can stay fit they will both do really well , Williams has been involved with the England set up prior to his illness


I'd be happy with those two. Give us a stable of

Foxy
Steff
Asquith
Tyler
Jonny
Osian

Also be interesting to see how Steff would go at 12 with Foxy outside him and Patch inside him in a big game. Take a bit of responsibility off his shoulders, touch more quality for him to play with.


Posted By: Gate12
Date Posted: 15 April 2020 at 2:55pm
Didn't realise Tyler Morgan was still so young (24), 14 games this season so far so nice to see him having a run.

Haven't seen much of Johnny Williams but cv looks good.


Posted By: Mugwuffin
Date Posted: 15 April 2020 at 2:57pm
If we could get Tyler Morgan and keep him fit that would be a very good piece of recruitment. He attributed a lot of his injuries to not knowing he had Type 1 diabetes. 

That’s a difficult condition to balance with professional sport, but I’m sure he will keep getting better at managing it so that his body is able to deliver at elite level.

I think he’s a level above Fonotia and Baldwin as a 13. 


Posted By: turkishrebel
Date Posted: 15 April 2020 at 3:29pm
good signings both, always like what I have seen of tyler morgan. usually played well against us (as does everyone). still only 24 and has so much potential
johnny Williams, just seen clips of him. good ball carrier and offloader. primarily a 12 and just the sort of player we need, and again young (24). shown great courage to come through cancer so well. was in England squad prior to it so he is certainly no slouch.
2 good pick ups I say. I think 1 more centre (probably a quality nwq) and we would be looking quite good. although still would like to see scott back in scarlet Wink


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Posted By: stradeyscarlet72
Date Posted: 15 April 2020 at 3:33pm
Definitely better than fonotia- who’s gone right off the boil.  These look like excellent signings so bring it on. But what’s happening with Tom James ?


Posted By: BlackwoodScarlet
Date Posted: 15 April 2020 at 3:39pm
Tyler didn't find out until 2018 , that he was diabetic.
Which was why he suffered with injury problems

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Posted By: Mr Ian
Date Posted: 15 April 2020 at 4:45pm
if rumors will be confirmed, these are two good signing...players in the right age to become international players or not..in this situation Scarlets has the difficoult job to emerge their pontetial.
two good phisicality, hope no injury prone


Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 15 April 2020 at 4:52pm
Originally posted by turkishrebel turkishrebel wrote:

good signings both, always like what I have seen of tyler morgan. usually played well against us (as does everyone). still only 24 and has so much potential
johnny Williams, just seen clips of him. good ball carrier and offloader. primarily a 12 and just the sort of player we need, and again young (24). shown great courage to come through cancer so well. was in England squad prior to it so he is certainly no slouch.
2 good pick ups I say. I think 1 more centre (probably a quality nwq) and we would be looking quite good. although still would like to see scott back in scarlet Wink
 
 
Your a greedy boy! lol we are not going to sign 3 new centres that would be overkill we have hughes foxy knott and asquith can cover there we don't need 7 centres


Posted By: stradeyscarlet72
Date Posted: 15 April 2020 at 5:01pm
We still don’t know for sure how foxy is.  I’m not sure about Steff Hughes - I don’t think he’s the answer and that’s no dis respect to him. I mentioned earlier about joe Thomas - let’s get him signed. 


Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 15 April 2020 at 5:33pm
Who's our 12?


Posted By: EJPT
Date Posted: 15 April 2020 at 5:55pm
Johnny Williams was on the cusp of breaking through into the England squad, thats a very astute signing. Seen some interviews of him and he still seems a professional character despite what he’s been through. 


Posted By: scarletsbeno1
Date Posted: 15 April 2020 at 6:39pm
Johnny can play outside half and wing, primarily a centre though. 


Posted By: Sandman
Date Posted: 15 April 2020 at 6:58pm
The last two centres we signed from the Dragons ( correct me if I’m wrong) were Gareth Maule and Matty J. They didn’t turn out too bad. Let’s hope Tyler will be the same quality in our environment. 

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Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 15 April 2020 at 7:55pm
Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

Who's our 12?
left and right old school 👍


Posted By: Tim Opolis
Date Posted: 16 April 2020 at 11:59am
I like the look of Tyler and Johnny. Would like a more experienced 'Williams' alongside them.

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Posted By: Ffidel Bennett
Date Posted: 16 April 2020 at 4:49pm
I still think that Costelow can also play occasionally at centre as he has done for Leicester. If we include Sam we have 4 potential 10s and he probably won't initially be the first choice, although he won't be fourth either. His ability to play in two positions will probably be enough for him to begin his career with us, in most matchday squads.


Posted By: Mogwen
Date Posted: 16 April 2020 at 5:09pm
I think the club see's sam as a long term successor to patch and an able back up in the mean time. I also think that the club see's AOB as a back up full back when liam and leigh are on international duty. Mcnicholl steff conbeer and liam being our wingers

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Posted By: Legendinmybathroom
Date Posted: 16 April 2020 at 5:38pm
Our backline cover is looking good, with players who are able to interchange easily and cover several positions if required.  Yes we would all like an out and out speedster on the wing or a stellar signing, but they normally come at a cost, either financially or by not being available for large chunks of the season.  Obviously if they are part of the elite 38 players then 80% of their wages are covered which in theory allows you to recruit another player with that saving.


Posted By: ChrisX
Date Posted: 16 April 2020 at 6:04pm
Originally posted by Sandman Sandman wrote:

The last two centres we signed from the Dragons ( correct me if I’m wrong) were Gareth Maule and Matty J. They didn’t turn out too bad. Let’s hope Tyler will be the same quality in our environment. 

Rhodri Gomer Davies I think?

Johnny Williams sounds good, has represented England Under 20 but on the 'radar' of Wales coach Wayne Pivac in 2019?


Posted By: diego6754
Date Posted: 18 April 2020 at 10:34am
Originally posted by ChrisX ChrisX wrote:

Originally posted by Sandman Sandman wrote:

The last two centres we signed from the Dragons ( correct me if I’m wrong) were Gareth Maule and Matty J. They didn’t turn out too bad. Let’s hope Tyler will be the same quality in our environment. 


Rhodri Gomer Davies I think?

Johnny Williams sounds good, has represented England Under 20 but on the 'radar' of Wales coach Wayne Pivac in 2019?


His full name is John RHYS BLEDDYN Williams...I like that!


Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 18 April 2020 at 11:02am
Jrb williams sounds a bit familiar 😂👍


Posted By: stradeyscarlet72
Date Posted: 18 April 2020 at 12:38pm
Another bleddyn Williams !!!  Let’s have him now.  We’d be in seventh heaven if he’s anything like THE bleddyn williams 


Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 18 April 2020 at 12:42pm
Originally posted by stradeyscarlet72 stradeyscarlet72 wrote:

Another bleddyn Williams !!!  Let’s have him now.  We’d be in seventh heaven if he’s anything like THE bleddyn williams 

Too right.


Posted By: ScarletBear
Date Posted: 18 April 2020 at 6:37pm
Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Originally posted by stradeyscarlet72 stradeyscarlet72 wrote:

Another bleddyn Williams !!!  Let’s have him now.  We’d be in seventh heaven if he’s anything like THE bleddyn williams 

Too right.

Bleddyn Williams and Jack Matthews


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Posted By: Ffidel Bennett
Date Posted: 30 April 2020 at 3:05pm
Is Parkes definitely leaving for Japan before the start of next season (whenever that may be)? The way it was expressed in a Radio Cymru bulletin this morning appeared to suggest that it was not yet a done deal. I've also not heard anything on whether Fonotia will be with us next season. It may be that Baldwin will be the only departure and we could have 6 or 7 centres next season depending on the number of arrivals!!!


Posted By: 157cb
Date Posted: 30 April 2020 at 3:44pm
Originally posted by Ffidel Bennett Ffidel Bennett wrote:

Is Parkes definitely leaving for Japan before the start of next season (whenever that may be)? The way it was expressed in a Radio Cymru bulletin this morning appeared to suggest that it was not yet a done deal. I've also not heard anything on whether Fonotia will be with us next season. It may be that Baldwin will be the only departure and we could have 6 or 7 centres next season depending on the number of arrivals!!!


  Fonotia not have is contract renewed as I understand it .


Posted By: reesytheexile
Date Posted: 30 April 2020 at 5:02pm
Originally posted by 157cb 157cb wrote:

Originally posted by Ffidel Bennett Ffidel Bennett wrote:

Is Parkes definitely leaving for Japan before the start of next season (whenever that may be)? The way it was expressed in a Radio Cymru bulletin this morning appeared to suggest that it was not yet a done deal. I've also not heard anything on whether Fonotia will be with us next season. It may be that Baldwin will be the only departure and we could have 6 or 7 centres next season depending on the number of arrivals!!!


  Fonotia not have is contract renewed as I understand it .
Shame for him and us but it hasn’t worked out with him and injuries meant we missed him for a lot of the time and his form was also not consistent. Time for a change.

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Posted By: stradeyscarlet72
Date Posted: 30 April 2020 at 5:12pm
Yes fonotia has been plagued by injuries and form has been so so.  He’s 32 so time to offload. Wish him well 


Posted By: solva
Date Posted: 30 April 2020 at 6:20pm
Parkes deal not done and dusted according to BBC. Quoting Pivac they say he has a ‘big decision’ to make.  


Posted By: diego6754
Date Posted: 01 May 2020 at 10:47am
Originally posted by solva solva wrote:

Parkes deal not done and dusted according to BBC. Quoting Pivac they say he has a ‘big decision’ to make.  


This is no slight on Hadleigh at all, I love the guy, he's been superb for us and we've been superb for him. However, given the time he will spend with Wales and his age, if we can bring in Jonny Williams and Tyler Morgan and with Osian Knott coming through I'd say a very fond farewell. My only caveat to this is if Foxy fails to recover, we could do with keeping him for his big game experience. I've heard however that Foxy is expecting to be 100% fit for the start of next season (whenever that may be). Others on here seem to suspect differently but who knows.


Posted By: stradeyscarlet72
Date Posted: 01 May 2020 at 10:51am
Fully agree. But re foxy , he’s going to be a gamble 


Posted By: diego6754
Date Posted: 01 May 2020 at 11:18am
Originally posted by stradeyscarlet72 stradeyscarlet72 wrote:

Fully agree. But re foxy , he’s going to be a gamble 


I don't think so, knee surgery has come on so much in the last few years, and key thing now is that with the virus he won't be forced back early.


Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 01 May 2020 at 1:14pm
Foxy will be busting a gut to be on the plane to South Africa in June 2021. 


Posted By: turkishrebel
Date Posted: 01 May 2020 at 3:03pm
foxey will have time to recover, but will he have the specialist recovery program that he would have with the scarlets/wales? injuries like that require a lot of physio and strength training to get the leg and knee to be back in a good enough state.
I am sure they will have given him a program to go through. but he will not have the specialists around him assisting in the recovery


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Posted By: gorau
Date Posted: 01 May 2020 at 3:36pm
Foxy will be back I'm sure. We need depth at centre though as someone like Foxy may have to be managed specially. He's world class and we do need him, but I see him playing big games and maybe a few against weaker sides, and in the derbies. Maybe in not all the derbies around Christmas given the short turn around. We need centres and they all will get plenty of game time I'm sure.

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Posted By: stradeyscarlet72
Date Posted: 01 May 2020 at 3:53pm
I hope you’re right and fingers crossed 🤞 


Posted By: crj89
Date Posted: 02 May 2020 at 9:49pm
Could do a lot worse than Alex Dunbar, recently released by Brive.


Posted By: stradeyscarlet72
Date Posted: 02 May 2020 at 10:42pm
Dunbar is 30 plus if we’d sign him and he performed well , then he could be recalled by the Scottish selectors. This defeats the object. He is probably very good but I wouldn’t sign him 




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