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Topic: Team for A Fixture v Dragons.
Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Subject: Team for A Fixture v Dragons.
Date Posted: 14 October 2020 at 9:08am
Something along the lines of :-

15. Rogers 14. Brew 13. Tyler 12. Osian 11. Conbeer 10. Costellow 9. Blacker
1. Rob Evans 2. Taylor 3. Javan 4. Helps 5. Price 6. Jac Morgan (C) 7. Dan Davies 8. Casseim

16. Daf 17. Mathias 18. O'Connor 19. Jones 20. Carwyn 21. Homer 22. AOB 23. Asquith. 



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Posted By: supertaf
Date Posted: 14 October 2020 at 9:35am
Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Something along the lines of :-

15. Rogers 14. Brew 13. Tyler 12. Osian 11. Conbeer 10. Costellow 9. Blacker
1. Rob Evans 2. Taylor 3. Javan 4. Helps 5. Price 6. Jac Morgan (C) 7. Dan Davies 8. Casseim

16. Daf 17. Mathias 18. O'Connor 19. Jones 20. Carwyn 21. Homer 22. AOB 23. Asquith. 
Agree we need to give the guys some game time. Ed Kennedy needs game time as well but maybe we will treat it as a squad session and have far more subs.


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Posted By: Fscarlet
Date Posted: 14 October 2020 at 9:56am
I think it will be similar to the Ospreys match & there will be the bigger bench.


Posted By: PE SA
Date Posted: 14 October 2020 at 1:17pm
We will see something similar to ospreys game I think. 2 maybe 3 changes in some positions.

15. Prydie / Angus
14. Conbeer / Doel
13. Roberts / Hughes
12. Knott / Asquith
11. Nicholas / Brew
10. Costellow / Dan Jones
9. Blacker / Homer
8. Cassiem / Miles / Tuipolotu
7. Jac Morgan / Davis
6. Davis / Kennedy
5. Helps / Rees
4. Rawlins / Price
3. Sebastian / OConnor / Kruger
2. Davies / Jones / Hughes
1. Price / Rob Evs / Dylan

It's a game for players to have mins under their belts. I have probably missed some especially backrowers. We may see some more academy lads coming in for it.
I can't see it being a match with a match day 23. I think all of the above will feature. Maybe more. 


Posted By: Fscarlet
Date Posted: 14 October 2020 at 1:23pm
I'd imagine Cubby will get a run out, given he has only 2 cameos from the bench.


Posted By: ChrisX
Date Posted: 14 October 2020 at 1:41pm
Id have Steff Evans, Cubby & Kalamafoni rest up. 


Posted By: minded
Date Posted: 14 October 2020 at 2:05pm
Cubby called up to Wales as Ken and MacLeod are out

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Posted By: N14
Date Posted: 14 October 2020 at 2:08pm
Originally posted by minded minded wrote:

Cubby called up to Wales as Ken and MacLeod are out

That's bad news for us going forward


Posted By: ChrisX
Date Posted: 14 October 2020 at 2:12pm
Over to Jac Morgan & Dan Davies then


Posted By: Fscarlet
Date Posted: 14 October 2020 at 2:12pm
Originally posted by minded minded wrote:

Cubby called up to Wales as Ken and MacLeod are out

Wow! I'd have thought they would have called up Basham....


Posted By: 157cb
Date Posted: 14 October 2020 at 2:13pm
 
 It will give chances for outstanding youngsters Jac Morgan and Dan Davis now .

  Devastating for Josh MacLeod, all the best with his recovery!


Posted By: N14
Date Posted: 14 October 2020 at 2:16pm
Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

Originally posted by minded minded wrote:

Cubby called up to Wales as Ken and MacLeod are out

Wow! I'd have thought they would have called up Basham....

Comment on the WRU Facebook post:
"Taine Basham must have slept with Wayne Pivac's dauhter." LOLLOL


Posted By: Fscarlet
Date Posted: 14 October 2020 at 2:18pm
Originally posted by N14 N14 wrote:

Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

Originally posted by minded minded wrote:

Cubby called up to Wales as Ken and MacLeod are out

Wow! I'd have thought they would have called up Basham....

Comment on the WRU Facebook post:
"Taine Basham must have slept with Wayne Pivac's dauhter." LOLLOL

LOL Love that!!


Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 14 October 2020 at 3:42pm
For me thats another example of Pivac's flaky selection. Cubby needs games before he is ready for International rugby. Basham has squad experience & is match fit. 


Posted By: Fscarlet
Date Posted: 14 October 2020 at 3:48pm
Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

For me thats another example of Pivac's flaky selection. Cubby needs games before he is ready for International rugby. Basham has squad experience & is match fit. 

Cubby will be holding tackle bags come the big games.


Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 14 October 2020 at 3:52pm
Gutted for Josh. Ken's omission is not the end of the world as it will give him some R&R while he recovers & gives Ryan Elias the chance to really step up for Wales. It will also allow Parry some much needed time to prove he is International quality. 


Posted By: reesytheexile
Date Posted: 14 October 2020 at 4:31pm
And with the double whammy of non players not being released back to clubs as they usually are, due to Covid bubble restrictions- at least the same rules will apply to all clubs though 

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Posted By: EJPT
Date Posted: 14 October 2020 at 5:30pm
Pivac certainly has his favourites. Cubby and him were good pals and he did get the best out of him. 


Posted By: PE SA
Date Posted: 14 October 2020 at 6:08pm
Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

For me thats another example of Pivac's flaky selection. Cubby needs games before he is ready for International rugby. Basham has squad experience & is match fit. 
I wouldn't say its a pivac thing. It was a gatland thing as well. Some players make the squad with no game time... Others aren't selected due to lack of game time. Common theme in Wales. 


Posted By: ScarletBear
Date Posted: 14 October 2020 at 9:22pm
Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Gutted for Josh. Ken's omission is not the end of the world as it will give him some R&R while he recovers & gives Ryan Elias the chance to really step up for Wales. It will also allow Parry some much needed time to prove he is International quality. 

Agree fully. It's ELIAS TIME. This is his big chance.


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Posted By: scarletnut
Date Posted: 15 October 2020 at 8:16am
Originally posted by PE SA PE SA wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

For me thats another example of Pivac's flaky selection. Cubby needs games before he is ready for International rugby. Basham has squad experience & is match fit. 
I wouldn't say its a pivac thing. It was a gatland thing as well. Some players make the squad with no game time... Others aren't selected due to lack of game time. Common theme in Wales. 
Fact of the matter is every coach has their favourites. It’s nothing new 

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Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 15 October 2020 at 8:24am
Originally posted by scarletnut scarletnut wrote:

Originally posted by PE SA PE SA wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

For me thats another example of Pivac's flaky selection. Cubby needs games before he is ready for International rugby. Basham has squad experience & is match fit. 
I wouldn't say its a pivac thing. It was a gatland thing as well. Some players make the squad with no game time... Others aren't selected due to lack of game time. Common theme in Wales. 
Fact of the matter is every coach has their favourites. It’s nothing new 

I have no problem with coaches having their opinions on players but you have to compare two players who are fit with some gametime. Cubby has been out since the World Cup with  a hip issue followed by calf problems. He has been eased back in by the Scarlets - quite rightly. Is he ready for a full on International game? Ok if Cubby is released for the not so important France game and told to get a good 60 minutes under his belt away to Benetton along with Liam then I will understand otherwise why risk it?  Its not as if players cannot be called up during the campaign which is being played in Europe. 


Posted By: Fscarlet
Date Posted: 15 October 2020 at 8:42am
Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Originally posted by scarletnut scarletnut wrote:

Originally posted by PE SA PE SA wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

For me thats another example of Pivac's flaky selection. Cubby needs games before he is ready for International rugby. Basham has squad experience & is match fit. 
I wouldn't say its a pivac thing. It was a gatland thing as well. Some players make the squad with no game time... Others aren't selected due to lack of game time. Common theme in Wales. 
Fact of the matter is every coach has their favourites. It’s nothing new 

I have no problem with coaches having their opinions on players but you have to compare two players who are fit with some gametime. Cubby has been out since the World Cup with  a hip issue followed by calf problems. He has been eased back in by the Scarlets - quite rightly. Is he ready for a full on International game? Ok if Cubby is released for the not so important France game and told to get a good 60 minutes under his belt away to Benetton along with Liam then I will understand otherwise why risk it?  Its not as if players cannot be called up during the campaign which is being played in Europe. 

Can they be released given the fact they are in bubbles?


Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 15 October 2020 at 8:46am
Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Originally posted by scarletnut scarletnut wrote:

Originally posted by PE SA PE SA wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

For me thats another example of Pivac's flaky selection. Cubby needs games before he is ready for International rugby. Basham has squad experience & is match fit. 
I wouldn't say its a pivac thing. It was a gatland thing as well. Some players make the squad with no game time... Others aren't selected due to lack of game time. Common theme in Wales. 
Fact of the matter is every coach has their favourites. It’s nothing new 

I have no problem with coaches having their opinions on players but you have to compare two players who are fit with some gametime. Cubby has been out since the World Cup with  a hip issue followed by calf problems. He has been eased back in by the Scarlets - quite rightly. Is he ready for a full on International game? Ok if Cubby is released for the not so important France game and told to get a good 60 minutes under his belt away to Benetton along with Liam then I will understand otherwise why risk it?  Its not as if players cannot be called up during the campaign which is being played in Europe. 

Can they be released given the fact they are in bubbles?

That is an interesting point. I can't see much difference going from one bubble at PYS where testing is done regularly to the Llantrisant bubble where again testing will be done regularly. No difference really from the match day experience where two heavily tested bubbles meet. 


Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 15 October 2020 at 10:02am
I doubt they will be released, possibly if we had a home game
 
But to travel to Italy, play a game and then travel home and then travel back to camp
 
I just can't see the wru taking any risks with any players until these games are done tbh
 
At least Treviso are losing a load of players as well


Posted By: thommo
Date Posted: 15 October 2020 at 11:19am
When is Sams hearing? This game will be one less of his ban hopefully. 


Posted By: ChrisX
Date Posted: 15 October 2020 at 11:36am
4 week ban for Sam


Posted By: Mugwuffin
Date Posted: 15 October 2020 at 11:36am
Originally posted by thommo thommo wrote:

When is Sams hearing? This game will be one less of his ban hopefully. 
He’s been banned for 4 weeks. 

Misses the Benetton, Edinburgh and Zebre matches. 


Posted By: Captain
Date Posted: 15 October 2020 at 12:13pm
They give a 4 week ban. I personally don’t think that is fair. No intent and size difference between both players. Red should have been sufficient. 




Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 15 October 2020 at 12:21pm
Originally posted by Captain Captain wrote:

They give a 4 week ban. I personally don’t think that is fair. No intent and size difference between both players. Red should have been sufficient. 



Surely that opens up the case for scrum halves to be decapitated every game!!!! It is incumbent on the tackler to tackle a player within the rules. 4 weeks, considering it is 2nd red card this year is reasonable. 


Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 15 October 2020 at 12:23pm
Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

I doubt they will be released, possibly if we had a home game
 
But to travel to Italy, play a game and then travel home and then travel back to camp
 
I just can't see the wru taking any risks with any players until these games are done tbh
 
At least Treviso are losing a load of players as well

Can't see the difference - the bubbles have been set up to cater for such things. Chartered flights, no passport control, play the game come home. Exactly the same risks as face the Welsh team when they play in Paris. 


Posted By: Fscarlet
Date Posted: 15 October 2020 at 12:26pm
Originally posted by Captain Captain wrote:

They give a 4 week ban. I personally don’t think that is fair. No intent and size difference between both players. Red should have been sufficient. 



They gave a 6 week ban reduced to 4. His red card against Munster meant he couldn't receive full mitigation. 


Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 15 October 2020 at 12:46pm
I think we are a little lucky, I was expecting a minimum of 6 wks.


Posted By: surfing-mtber
Date Posted: 15 October 2020 at 12:49pm
Team for Dragons. 

15 Tom Prydie; 14 Ryan Conbeer, 13 Tyler Morgan, 12 Paul Asquith, 11 Aled Brew; 10 Angus O’Brien, 9 Dane Blacker; 1 Rob Evans, 2 Marc Jones, 3 Javan Sebastian, 4 Tevita Ratuva, 5 Morgan Jones, 6 Ed Kennedy, 7 Jac Morgan (capt), 8 Uzair Cassiem.

Reps: Taylor Davies, Shaun Evans, Dylan Evans, Kemsley Mathias, Werner. Kruger, Harri O’Connor, Jac Price, Tom Phillips, Joe Miles, Dan Davis, Carwyn Tuipulotu, Will Homer, Sam Costelow, Joe Roberts, Ioan Nicholas.



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Posted By: Fscarlet
Date Posted: 15 October 2020 at 1:25pm

Dragons: Dafydd Howells, Owen Jenkins, Joe Thomas, Aneurin Owen, Jared Rosser, Josh Lewis, Luke Baldwin; Conor Maguire, Ellis Shipp, Lloyd Fairbrother, Ben Carter, Joe Maksymiw, Huw Taylor (capt), Ben Fry, Taine Basham.

Replacements: Rhys Lawrence, Josh Reynolds, Chris Coleman, Max Williams, George Young, Dan Babos, Will Reed, Rio Dyer.



Posted By: Why
Date Posted: 15 October 2020 at 1:41pm
Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

I think we are a little lucky, I was expecting a minimum of 6 wks.
I agree but if he had been an Irish international he'd be looking at no ban 


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Posted By: Fscarlet
Date Posted: 15 October 2020 at 1:45pm
Originally posted by Why Why wrote:

Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

I think we are a little lucky, I was expecting a minimum of 6 wks.
I agree but if he had been an Irish international he'd be looking at no ban 

The constant Irish bias is really starting to get boring now... 


Posted By: Mugwuffin
Date Posted: 15 October 2020 at 2:20pm
Is Osian Knott injured? It would’ve been good to have a look at him off the bench. 


Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 15 October 2020 at 5:19pm
Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

Originally posted by Why Why wrote:

Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

I think we are a little lucky, I was expecting a minimum of 6 wks.

I agree but if he had been an Irish international he'd be looking at no ban 


The constant Irish bias is really starting to get boring now... 


Henderson got a 3 week ban for his red v Ospreys.


Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 15 October 2020 at 5:20pm
Originally posted by Mugwuffin Mugwuffin wrote:

Is Osian Knott injured? It would’ve been good to have a look at him off the bench. 


Yes, I was looking out for him. The Drags centre Aneurin Owen is supposed to be a bit good.


Posted By: Mugwuffin
Date Posted: 15 October 2020 at 5:45pm
Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

Originally posted by Mugwuffin Mugwuffin wrote:

Is Osian Knott injured? It would’ve been good to have a look at him off the bench. 


Yes, I was looking out for him. The Drags centre Aneurin Owen is supposed to be a bit good.
Yes, he did look a classy player for the U20s. Tomkins was raving about him on the Scrum V podcast the other day.


Posted By: Dai Guevara
Date Posted: 15 October 2020 at 5:53pm
Looking forward to have a look at some of these prospects. Do we have any details of the streaming of this game?


Posted By: Jones2004
Date Posted: 15 October 2020 at 6:12pm
Originally posted by Dai Guevara Dai Guevara wrote:

Looking forward to have a look at some of these prospects. Do we have any details of the streaming of this game?
It’s on the Scarlets social media channels, no idea if it’s available any other way.


Posted By: ladram
Date Posted: 15 October 2020 at 7:36pm
it's a friendly,a training session ,put anyone in.


Posted By: knutsfordlion
Date Posted: 15 October 2020 at 8:54pm
Originally posted by surfing-mtber surfing-mtber wrote:

Team for Dragons. 

15 Tom Prydie; 14 Ryan Conbeer, 13 Tyler Morgan, 12 Paul Asquith, 11 Aled Brew; 10 Angus O’Brien, 9 Dane Blacker; 1 Rob Evans, 2 Marc Jones, 3 Javan Sebastian, 4 Tevita Ratuva, 5 Morgan Jones, 6 Ed Kennedy, 7 Jac Morgan (capt), 8 Uzair Cassiem.

Reps: Taylor Davies, Shaun Evans, Dylan Evans, Kemsley Mathias, Werner. Kruger, Harri O’Connor, Jac Price, Tom Phillips, Joe Miles, Dan Davis, Carwyn Tuipulotu, Will Homer, Sam Costelow, Joe Roberts, Ioan Nicholas.

Tidy side.
Does anyone know where this is being streamed and if it can be recorded as I am at work?


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Posted By: Why
Date Posted: 16 October 2020 at 8:29am
Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

Originally posted by Why Why wrote:

Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

I think we are a little lucky, I was expecting a minimum of 6 wks.

I agree but if he had been an Irish international he'd be looking at no ban 


The constant Irish bias is really starting to get boring now... 


Henderson got a 3 week ban for his red v Ospreys.
Yes it is getting boring I wish they would stop it. 


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Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 16 October 2020 at 8:38am
Originally posted by Why Why wrote:

Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

Originally posted by Why Why wrote:

Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

I think we are a little lucky, I was expecting a minimum of 6 wks.

I agree but if he had been an Irish international he'd be looking at no ban 


The constant Irish bias is really starting to get boring now... 


Henderson got a 3 week ban for his red v Ospreys.
Yes it is getting boring I wish they would stop it. 

Agreed in Henderson's case it appears he was treated properly getting a week less than Sam who has some form. 



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