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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Speedy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 March 2018 at 5:19pm
Originally posted by PearlJam PearlJam wrote:

Originally posted by Speedy Speedy wrote:

Originally posted by scarletnut scarletnut wrote:

Originally posted by Speedy Speedy wrote:

only problem i see is that Irish fans already have home and away coverage, but any deal we get will probably be for home games only?

This is a major problem with having 5 different nations all using different broadcasters.

Llanelli, Cardiff, Swansea, Ponty, Newport all need to withdraw from semi pro obscurity in Wales, and join the bottom of the English league pyramid.


That would signal the end of professional rugby in wales

They are not pro now? nor have they been since 2003. They are semi pro, joining an english semi pro league. At the bottom.

You're suggesting semi-pro guys, on peanuts, travelling to Oxford, Glocester, Bristol, Cornwall and Devon every weekend, balancing families / work etc. sustained by approximately 80 people attending home games each week (if you're RFC).

I think that's going to be a bit of a non-starter.


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The current set up seem to manage it.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Speedy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 March 2018 at 5:21pm
Originally posted by scarletsmad_87 scarletsmad_87 wrote:

I listened to this morning's Radio Wales with Jason Mohammad show and they were discussing this Pro14 issue.
A caller made a fantastic suggestion for the BBC, create a new Welsh rugby grassroots show. This could feature Welsh premiership rugby highlights and also lower leagues including discussions regarding grassroots rugby.

I think this is a fantastic idea but don't include Jiffy and Martyn Williams.    

I agree, BBC should do what they do best and stick to it. Local rugby. But invest more time and money into it.

If they did pump some coverage and money into the semi pro league i for one would see that as a good move.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Iwlew Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 March 2018 at 5:47pm
This may result in a lot less people in Wales watching the games on TV. Lets hope this doesn't have an affect in the future on people supporting and getting into rugby.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rob o'r Bont Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 March 2018 at 5:58pm
Originally posted by Iwlew Iwlew wrote:

This may result in a lot less people in Wales watching the games on TV. Lets hope this doesn't have an affect in the future on people supporting and getting into rugby.
Lets hope it does have an effect - a positive effect.

This is a win win situation as far as I can see.  
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote SA14 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 March 2018 at 6:40pm
The ironic thing in all this is that a lot of people complained there was too much rugby on tv and that they hated the bbc coverage. A case of bite the hand that feeds you.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote totallybiasedscarlet Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 March 2018 at 9:57pm
Wasn’t there some research that showed grassroots participation in Cricket dropped after it moved from free to view?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote s.pimpernel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 March 2018 at 10:02pm
Originally posted by NobbySosban NobbySosban wrote:


I watch a fair bit of BT Sport rugby coverage, and they do it well, especially the mid-week Rugby Tonight programme - great mix of action, highlights, features, technical analysis and fan/player humour, although very Anglo-centric even with BOD involved & on European cup weekends. To me, that's the benchmark, although I don't see much Sky coverage.


Nearly all the old SKY TV production team that did the rugby went to BT. Not all, but quite a few. They even brought in some that left Sky on early retirement. 
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Originally posted by Iwlew Iwlew wrote:

This may result in a lot less people in Wales watching the games on TV. Lets hope this doesn't have an affect in the future on people supporting and getting into rugby.


I've a strong feeling it is 'only' existing rugby fans who watch live Pro 14 games on TV so, in which case, that won't be an issue. A good highlights programe would be the thing which would capture less committed viewers and, as just highlights, should encourage them towards rugby. And that's highlights of all the Pro 14 matches!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote rygbi11 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 March 2018 at 8:12pm
Maybe they will broadcast live Welsh Premiership games instead (teams like RGC, Llanelli, Carmarthen, Pontypridd, Newport and Merthyr Tydfil)?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Speedy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 March 2018 at 11:10pm
A few people have suggested this. The semi pro game could really do with a shot in the arm, and the Beebs local rugby club style magazine show would be perfect for the prem.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote turkishrebel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 March 2018 at 2:25pm
wonder when we will hear something about who has actually go the contract and how they are going to run it....probably week before next season!
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We might actually get a whole year’s fixtures in advance like the Aviva Prem ?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mrfwon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 March 2018 at 10:33pm
Sky sports for this, BT sports for that, and/or Premier Sports for live and delayed coverage. All our league n cup comps split over three Pay Per View broadcasters........what a fupping mess

Yeah, we could all get out of the arm chair and head down to Y Parc, in the ideal world, and if we all lived within half a countries travel to get there. However, we all don't, and then there's the away games that other home support can't get to or can't afford to get to.

These broadcasters aren't thinking about us the supporters, their thinking about profit margins and viewing stats only.

But hey, let's rejoice in the fact that the BBC have lost the Free to Air rights, it's surely going to ensure that the lack of TV coverage is going to increase our gate numbers, significantly.


Must be win win eh.....really, we need to get a bit real folks!

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ladram Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 March 2018 at 6:52am
Originally posted by Mrfwon Mrfwon wrote:

Sky sports for this, BT sports for that, and/or Premier Sports for live and delayed coverage. All our league n cup comps split over three Pay Per View broadcasters........what a fupping mess

Yeah, we could all get out of the arm chair and head down to Y Parc, in the ideal world, and if we all lived within half a countries travel to get there. However, we all don't, and then there's the away games that other home support can't get to or can't afford to get to.

These broadcasters aren't thinking about us the supporters, their thinking about profit margins and viewing stats only.

But hey, let's rejoice in the fact that the BBC have lost the Free to Air rights, it's surely going to ensure that the lack of TV coverage is going to increase our gate numbers, significantly.


Must be win win eh.....really, we need to get a bit real folks!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote minded Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 March 2018 at 7:46am
Originally posted by Mrfwon Mrfwon wrote:

Sky sports for this, BT sports for that, and/or Premier Sports for live and delayed coverage. All our league n cup comps split over three Pay Per View broadcasters........what a fupping mess
You won't need Sky Sports for any of our games next season, BT have all of Europe and Premier Sports the Pro14.
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