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Originally posted by dyniol53 dyniol53 wrote:

Originally posted by T_RICHARDS_94 T_RICHARDS_94 wrote:

Although it's a different sport, Pep Guardiola spoke about his recruitment policy the other day and his comments were very similar. They look more at the personality of the player sometimes before deciding whether to sign or not. It's to make sure they have "good people" and can adapt to the culture. It's working for them and it's working for us!
 
Great read too.

Yes, i think I read that too, v interesting!

The All Blacks have their "No d***heads" policy but also I've seen a few similar examples outside sport so for example Adam&Eve DDB, the people who make the John Lewis adverts say you "must be talented AND nice" to work there and I read the other day that you can't get a job at Netflix if you're a "brilliant jerk" 

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Let's not let the cooks loose in the barrel then! LOL
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Originally posted by surfing-mtber surfing-mtber wrote:

Originally posted by dyniol53 dyniol53 wrote:

Originally posted by T_RICHARDS_94 T_RICHARDS_94 wrote:

Although it's a different sport, Pep Guardiola spoke about his recruitment policy the other day and his comments were very similar. They look more at the personality of the player sometimes before deciding whether to sign or not. It's to make sure they have "good people" and can adapt to the culture. It's working for them and it's working for us!
 
Great read too.

Yes, i think I read that too, v interesting!

The All Blacks have their "No d***heads" policy but also I've seen a few similar examples outside sport so for example Adam&Eve DDB, the people who make the John Lewis adverts say you "must be talented AND nice" to work there and I read the other day that you can't get a job at Netflix if you're a "brilliant jerk" 

One bad apple spoils the broth!


Let's not let the cooks loose in the barrel then! LOL

Too many apples LOL
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Pivac to me has a very "Moneyball" kind of recruitment style. Always finding those gems who are solid players with high ceilings but not given the chance or yet to break through.

Also looks like Jeff Hassler is leaving the Ospreys this summer. Always rated him and I reckon he'd fit in well down Parc.
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There's a little bit of aggression, a la Lowe in Hassler, and although not our usual type of signing he'd be a useful squad player if not too expensive.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote SospanMawr Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 April 2018 at 10:22pm
Agree would like to see Hassler here however he is NWQ and injury prone so not sure it’s the smartest move. Good player though.
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Hassler has been quite injury prone over the last couple of seasons. His hands and pace aren’t great either. He’s been a useful ball carrier for the Ospreys, but I doubt he’d fit in particularly well with the way we want to play.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ScarletBear Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 April 2018 at 1:47am
Wan't Hassler the wing who opened the door for Josh to score in the PYS derby over Christmas? If so, he obviously likes us.
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Originally posted by ScarletBear ScarletBear wrote:

Wan't Hassler the wing who opened the door for Josh to score in the PYS derby over Christmas? If so, he obviously likes us.

No that was Dirksen.

Hassler would thrive in our environment IMO. Never give up type character whether thats to chase down an attacker or a support run.
One of if not the most consistent performers for the Ospreys in the last 5yrs IMO. And knows where the try line is. he's a finisher.
Cant get over the Ospreys have not offered him a contract to be honest.
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I like Hassler, seems a strong runner even in contact - good leg drive to keep going. The only thing, however is he plays for Canada - so he would be missing for chunks of the season.
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What we need is a winger with serious speed and that is not hassler. For that reason hope we are not considering him. Steff does not have serious gas but makes up for that with his quickfeet. Playing the style we do attacking turnovers we need a flyer likei ioane of treviso.
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Originally posted by PE SA PE SA wrote:

Originally posted by ScarletBear ScarletBear wrote:

Wan't Hassler the wing who opened the door for Josh to score in the PYS derby over Christmas? If so, he obviously likes us.

No that was Dirksen.

Hassler would thrive in our environment IMO. Never give up type character whether thats to chase down an attacker or a support run.
One of if not the most consistent performers for the Ospreys in the last 5yrs IMO. And knows where the try line is. he's a finisher.
Cant get over the Ospreys have not offered him a contract to be honest.

Apparently he had a 2 year deal with him having the option to extend for a further year. Earlier this year he told the O's he wouldn't be taking up that option. More recently he asked if it was still open but by then they had reallocated the funds.
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hassler can shift, and he is a strong runner, but he has had a lot of injuries. The other worry is that he constantly looks for contact , where as we try to avoid it.  All things considered I think we should pass , bet the drags go in for him

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The first choice  Scarlets starting wingers for next season are probably already in place- Steff, McNicholl, and Clayton. Hassler would be only be used to boost the squad while our youngsters develop. How often would he play for Canada (and be unavailable) and how much would he cost are the two big questions that would have to be posed. Of our probable starters I think Clayton is pretty quick, but if we look at other teams use of wingers, and their use of kick and chase as a weapon to exert pressure  we just haven't got it. It's not just lack of pace on behalf of our boys but also generally very poor kicking to give our wingers a chance. Our box kicking against Leinster gave us no chance to retrieve the ball and plenty for Leinster to control exactly where on the field they wanted to put pressure on us next. Our tactical kicking wasn't even relieving the pressure on us let alone putting pressure on them. A lot of this was, of course, due to the superiority of the Leinster pack in the breakdown area, but by no means all of it.
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think we do need a flyer in the squad, but we will certainly have more pace in the back 3 with mcnicholl back and bloomtejees who is rapid.
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Originally posted by Ffidel Bennett Ffidel Bennett wrote:

The first choice  Scarlets starting wingers for next season are probably already in place- Steff, McNicholl, and Clayton. Hassler would be only be used to boost the squad while our youngsters develop. How often would he play for Canada (and be unavailable) and how much would he cost are the two big questions that would have to be posed. Of our probable starters I think Clayton is pretty quick, but if we look at other teams use of wingers, and their use of kick and chase as a weapon to exert pressure  we just haven't got it. It's not just lack of pace on behalf of our boys but also generally very poor kicking to give our wingers a chance. Our box kicking against Leinster gave us no chance to retrieve the ball and plenty for Leinster to control exactly where on the field they wanted to put pressure on us next. Our tactical kicking wasn't even relieving the pressure on us let alone putting pressure on them. A lot of this was, of course, due to the superiority of the Leinster pack in the breakdown area, but by no means all of it.

From what I have seen of Clayton he will be our quickest player by some distance. Our tactical kicking is our biggest problem area which is surprising with Stevo involved. Next season our back 3 resources look pretty good - Halfpenny, Clayton, Steff, Jonny, Fonotia, Asquith, Tom Williams, Conbeer, Prydie.
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