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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote roy munster Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 February 2015 at 3:21pm
in fairness theres plusses and minuses. lets hope its onward and upward from here
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (2) Thanks(2)   Quote Gate12 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 February 2015 at 3:55pm
Ross Harris was pretty accurate this morning, he was basically saying that casual fans with a moderate interest in the game at international level and virtually no interest in the game below that will think that Roger did a good job, everyone else not so much.
 
I'd guessing Gatland is looking for a post World Cup pay off, either that or he'll just plod along for another 4 years as the best paid coach in the world spending half of his time back home, not a bad set of options.
 
There's also a few other deals of Roger's that will keep going for a few years (Cr4p TV and sponsorship deals) so Roger's can sleep easy in the knowledge that his legacy will live on for a while yet.
 
He's probably holding off until the end of the World Cup because he's got the dream of Sam lifting the World Cup with him chatting to the Queen in the background.
 
This is without a doubt Rogers greatest achievement though:
 
&amp;#10;WRU President Dennis Gethin, WRU Chief Executive Roger Lewis, First Minister of Wales Carwyn Jones and Artist Dan Llywelyn Hall unveil a new portrait of the Queen to be housed at the Millennium Stadium
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote SospanMawr Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 February 2015 at 5:00pm
Mark Davies or Andrew Hore for me, or even both. There's a huge amount of work to be done mind.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote 2ndtimeround Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 February 2015 at 5:04pm
Just heard this on Scarlet FM, really hope its true.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote roy munster Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 February 2015 at 6:11pm
Originally posted by Gate12 Gate12 wrote:

Ross Harris was pretty accurate this morning, he was basically saying that casual fans with a moderate interest in the game at international level and virtually no interest in the game below that will think that Roger did a good job, everyone else not so much.

 

I'd guessing Gatland is looking for a post World Cup pay off, either that or he'll just plod along for another 4 years as the best paid coach in the world spending half of his time back home, not a bad set of options.

 

There's also a few other deals of Roger's that will keep going for a few years (Cr4p TV and sponsorship deals) so Roger's can sleep easy in the knowledge that his legacy will live on for a while yet.

 

He's probably holding off until the end of the World Cup because he's got the dream of Sam lifting the World Cup with him chatting to the Queen in the background.

 

This is without a doubt Rogers greatest achievement though:

 

<SPAN =slide->&amp;#10;WRU President Dennis Gethin, WRU Chief Executive Roger Lewis, First Minister of Wales Carwyn Jones and Artist Dan Llywelyn Hall unveil a new portrait of the Queen to be housed at the Millennium Stadium</SPAN>
lol the queen must be hell of a goalkepper with hands like those
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mike Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 February 2015 at 6:19pm
Great video from Gwladrugby about Roger.

http://gwladrugby.com/?p=2136
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Not seen that painting before, looks like a cartoon from a newspaper, I hope it was a gift they didn't pay for.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (2) Thanks(2)   Quote Abbey Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 February 2015 at 6:44pm
Gatland's comments regarding his future are very telling. There's no doubt that the cosy relationship that Lewis and the union had with the BBC and Western Mail deflected or diluted a hell of a lot of the criticism that would have ordinarily come Gatland's way.
Don't get me wrong, Gatland has, on the whole, been exceptionally successful, but if you accept the plaudits when things go right, you must also accept criticism when they don't. Compare him to an England football manager who is dealt with depending on how they have performed in the latest tournament and Gatland has got off easily.

I think that anyone - player, coach or even CEO ought to be judged on their entire record and not have the nice bits enhanced and the rest airbrushed away as has been the case with Roger Lewis. Yes, he reduced the debt but at a needless cost. Why be proud that you're overpaying the mortgage when you feed the family bread and water? Why be proud that the international team is winning a championship when your grass roots teams are going bust? Why be proud that you're developing world class players who then ply their trade in another country?

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote KID A Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 February 2015 at 6:47pm
Originally posted by Abbey Abbey wrote:

. Why be proud that you're overpaying the mortgage when you feed the family bread and water? Why be proud that the international team is winning a championship when your grass roots teams are going bust? Why be proud that you're developing world class players who then ply their trade in another country?


Ultimately, this is what you get when you're offered a free ride and no accountability by the press and therefore the majority of the public. Those in the western mail should be ashamed of the lack of scrutiny that Lewis has been placed under in this whole sorry debacle.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote TheOracle Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 February 2015 at 6:55pm
Originally posted by KID A KID A wrote:

Originally posted by Abbey Abbey wrote:

. Why be proud that you're overpaying the mortgage when you feed the family bread and water? Why be proud that the international team is winning a championship when your grass roots teams are going bust? Why be proud that you're developing world class players who then ply their trade in another country?


Ultimately, this is what you get when you're offered a free ride and no accountability by the press and therefore the majority of the public. Those in the western mail should be ashamed of the lack of scrutiny that Lewis has been placed under in this whole sorry debacle.
Interesting statements regarding Gatland , which i think everyone would agree with , but how can posters on here agree your sentiments ,yet critasize posters when people like Mark Jones , Ieuan Evans and Mcclusker are rightfully villafied...What i say reading your comments , that there are huge number of hypocrites who post on here these days who alter the goal posts when it suits them ...dont you feel
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote totallybiasedscarlet Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 February 2015 at 7:14pm
Originally posted by Mike Mike wrote:

Great video from Gwladrugby about Roger.

http://gwladrugby.com/?p=2136


Good effort
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Originally posted by TheOracle TheOracle wrote:

Originally posted by KID A KID A wrote:

Originally posted by Abbey Abbey wrote:

. Why be proud that you're overpaying the mortgage when you feed the family bread and water? Why be proud that the international team is winning a championship when your grass roots teams are going bust? Why be proud that you're developing world class players who then ply their trade in another country?


Ultimately, this is what you get when you're offered a free ride and no accountability by the press and therefore the majority of the public. Those in the western mail should be ashamed of the lack of scrutiny that Lewis has been placed under in this whole sorry debacle.
Interesting statements regarding Gatland , which i think everyone would agree with , but how can posters on here agree your sentiments ,yet critasize posters when people like Mark Jones , Ieuan Evans and Mcclusker are rightfully villafied...What i say reading your comments , that there are huge number of hypocrites who post on here these days who alter the goal posts when it suits them ...dont you feel


They're entitled to their opinion.
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Roger has scratched Gatland's back and Gatland has scratched Rogers basically.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote TheOracle Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 February 2015 at 7:34pm
Originally posted by totallybiasedscarlet totallybiasedscarlet wrote:

Originally posted by TheOracle TheOracle wrote:

Originally posted by KID A KID A wrote:

Originally posted by Abbey Abbey wrote:

. Why be proud that you're overpaying the mortgage when you feed the family bread and water? Why be proud that the international team is winning a championship when your grass roots teams are going bust? Why be proud that you're developing world class players who then ply their trade in another country?


Ultimately, this is what you get when you're offered a free ride and no accountability by the press and therefore the majority of the public. Those in the western mail should be ashamed of the lack of scrutiny that Lewis has been placed under in this whole sorry debacle.
Interesting statements regarding Gatland , which i think everyone would agree with , but how can posters on here agree your sentiments ,yet critasize posters when people like Mark Jones , Ieuan Evans and Mcclusker are rightfully villafied...What i say reading your comments , that there are huge number of hypocrites who post on here these days who alter the goal posts when it suits them ...dont you feel


They're entitled to their opinion.
Some are Some  arnt     thats the forum at present ....Free speech is only accepted when it agrees with certain points of view
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Abbey Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 February 2015 at 7:40pm
From BBC Sport website:

"And because of that, perhaps - unkindly - the Roger Lewis era will be remembered more than anything as one of the most acrimonious in the history of Welsh Rugby."

Says it all about the BBC and their relationship with Roger Lewis - to suggest that any criticism is "unkind".

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mike Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 February 2015 at 7:45pm
Fair play to BBC Wales, they did a good piece on Wales Today. 

Roger didn't come out of it smelling or roses... to say the least.
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