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    Posted: 22 December 2004 at 8:56am
What's the opinion on him avoiding a suspension?

I think it goes back to the days of the old Welsh League when refs did not send off Welsh internationals before major international tournaments in case it damaged their careers (ie the ref's career not the player!).
These days it seems the WRU are willing to brush it under the carpet if a ref dares to red card a Welsh squad member before a major tounarment. This may seem a bit strong with Ryan Jones being the only example so far, but how else can last night's decision be explained?
I doubt if the ERC disciplinary would have come to the same decision if he'd been sent off in a HC match - just ask Richard Mustoe. 
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He stamped on a head he should pay the price regardless, easy as that.
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Originally posted by Lino Lino wrote:

He stamped on a head he should pay the price regardless, easy as that.

Um, no he didn't.  The ref reports state that is was a stamp to the body, not the head.

Good decision by the WRU.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Micro Duck Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 December 2004 at 9:51am
Originally posted by OwenR OwenR wrote:

Good decision by the WRU.

That'll be a first.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote OwenR Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 December 2004 at 9:57am

Originally posted by Micro Duck Micro Duck wrote:

That'll be a first.

Ain't they the ones who decided to buy Stradey off us to keep us afloat?  I'd say that was a good decision as well.

TV evidence is inconclusive at best.  Look HERE for footage (post number 19)

The only person who saw it was the ref.  He said it was a stamp to the body.

 

 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote MikeM Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 December 2004 at 9:58am
Originally posted by OwenR OwenR wrote:

Originally posted by Lino Lino wrote:

He stamped on a head he should pay the price regardless, easy as that.

Um, no he didn't.  The ref reports state that is was a stamp to the body, not the head.

Good decision by the WRU.

Um the ref sent him off for stamping on a head

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote MikeM Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 December 2004 at 10:10am

You can't actually tell anything from that footage and tbh they were going backwards so I can't see how he could have stamped on anyone let alone his head. On the other hand the ref was there and he did a double take and then blew his whistle.

If he had thought that he'd stamped on the back of a player then he would have had a yellow card and not red. I think something here stinks and that the wru are behind it. 6 nations coming up and all

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Originally posted by Lino Lino wrote:

Um the ref sent him off for stamping on a head


Apparently the refs report said stamp to the body.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote SA14 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 December 2004 at 10:37am
head? body? i wouldn't want to be stamped on at all!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote MikeM Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 December 2004 at 10:46am

Originally posted by yedarts yedarts wrote:

Originally posted by Lino Lino wrote:

Um the ref sent him off for stamping on a head


Apparently the refs report said stamp to the body.

Yea, after some pressure from certain official rugby bodies I bet

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote connor boy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 December 2004 at 2:21pm
Originally posted by Lino Lino wrote:

He stamped on a head he should pay the price regardless, easy as that.
the stamp was nothing,it was the fact that things were'nt going the IRISH way yet again 
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Originally posted by Taffscarlet Taffscarlet wrote:

What's the opinion on him avoiding a suspension?

I think it goes back to the days of the old Welsh League when refs did not send off Welsh internationals before major international tournaments in case it damaged their careers (ie the ref's career not the player!).
These days it seems the WRU are willing to brush it under the carpet if a ref dares to red card a Welsh squad member before a major tounarment. This may seem a bit strong with Ryan Jones being the only example so far, but how else can last night's decision be explained?
I doubt if the ERC disciplinary would have come to the same decision if he'd been sent off in a HC match - just ask Richard Mustoe. 
mustoe should never have had the ban.munster game over trying to be the top dog's&tried mixing it again but had a sucking.nothing said or done about that clown of a no9 who things that stamp on anthing on the ground is OK,TILL ITS DONE BACK TO THEM.
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Originally posted by Lino Lino wrote:

Originally posted by yedarts yedarts wrote:

Originally posted by Lino Lino wrote:

Um the ref sent him off for stamping on a head


Apparently the refs report said stamp to the body.

Yea, after some pressure from certain official rugby bodies I bet



I hope so. It's about time our union got a bit more street wise. The English have been helping out their national side like this for years.


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i'm not saying be dirty,but dont back down when it comes,just be HARD.they'll need to be sunday for sure!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.   
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another bl**dy cop out by the wru. Angry
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote MikeM Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 December 2004 at 9:27am
Originally posted by yedarts yedarts wrote:

Originally posted by Lino Lino wrote:

Originally posted by yedarts yedarts wrote:

Originally posted by Lino Lino wrote:

Um the ref sent him off for stamping on a head


Apparently the refs report said stamp to the body.

Yea, after some pressure from certain official rugby bodies I bet



I hope so. It's about time our union got a bit more street wise. The English have been helping out their national side like this for years.

So what you're saying then is that if it's an international player it's ok for them to stamp and get away with it. Same should apply to all.

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