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Wales will have played 12 this season.

Most other NH teams will play 11.
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Originally posted by ap sior ap sior wrote:

Wales will have played 12 this season.

Most other NH teams will play 11.

Too many.

As I posted earlier, in the 60s and 70s you got 4 or 5 tests per annum, usually - 4 in the 5 nations, plus an extra one in the autumn, some years, if there was a tour. Summer tours by the home nations were rare. So, there was a real sense of occasion every time we went to the Arms Park.

I know those days are gone, and we'll never get the numbers down to that level, because of the money... however, I still think that for the good of the players (and also the regional/club game) there should be an upper limit, which would include even so-called 'unofficial' tests - e.g. England v Barbarians... having a limit on the number of tests, to me, seems a more sensible approach than the so called 'windows', which are challenged one way by Wales (tests outside the window) and another way by England (Barbarian matches, etc.).


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Originally posted by aber-fan aber-fan wrote:

Originally posted by ap sior ap sior wrote:

Wales will have played 12 this season.

Most other NH teams will play 11.


Too many.

As I posted earlier, in the 60s and 70s you got 4 or 5 tests per annum, usually - 4 in the 5 nations, plus an extra one in the autumn, some years, if there was a tour. Summer tours by the home nations were rare. So, there was a real sense of occasion every time we went to the Arms Park.

I know those days are gone, and we'll never get the numbers down to that level, because of the money... however, I still think that for the good of the players (and also the regional/club game) there should be an upper limit, which would include even so-called 'unofficial' tests - e.g. England v Barbarians... having a limit on the number of tests, to me, seems a more sensible approach than the so called 'windows', which are challenged one way by Wales (tests outside the window) and another way by England (Barbarian matches, etc.).


While I agree with you sentiments how do you propose we make up the significant lost revenue?
I still wake up late at night and think of what might have been when tim stimpson hit that jammy penalty1
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Originally posted by scarletnut scarletnut wrote:

Originally posted by aber-fan aber-fan wrote:

Originally posted by ap sior ap sior wrote:

Wales will have played 12 this season.

Most other NH teams will play 11.


Too many.

As I posted earlier, in the 60s and 70s you got 4 or 5 tests per annum, usually - 4 in the 5 nations, plus an extra one in the autumn, some years, if there was a tour. Summer tours by the home nations were rare. So, there was a real sense of occasion every time we went to the Arms Park.

I know those days are gone, and we'll never get the numbers down to that level, because of the money... however, I still think that for the good of the players (and also the regional/club game) there should be an upper limit, which would include even so-called 'unofficial' tests - e.g. England v Barbarians... having a limit on the number of tests, to me, seems a more sensible approach than the so called 'windows', which are challenged one way by Wales (tests outside the window) and another way by England (Barbarian matches, etc.).


While I agree with you sentiments how do you propose we make up the significant lost revenue?

The lost revenue by playing 1 or 2 fewer games should not be so huge that it can't be managed, especially (for the WRU) as the repayment period for the stadium draws closer.
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Originally posted by aber-fan aber-fan wrote:

Originally posted by scarletnut scarletnut wrote:

Originally posted by aber-fan aber-fan wrote:

Originally posted by ap sior ap sior wrote:

Wales will have played 12 this season.

Most other NH teams will play 11.


Too many.

As I posted earlier, in the 60s and 70s you got 4 or 5 tests per annum, usually - 4 in the 5 nations, plus an extra one in the autumn, some years, if there was a tour. Summer tours by the home nations were rare. So, there was a real sense of occasion every time we went to the Arms Park.

I know those days are gone, and we'll never get the numbers down to that level, because of the money... however, I still think that for the good of the players (and also the regional/club game) there should be an upper limit, which would include even so-called 'unofficial' tests - e.g. England v Barbarians... having a limit on the number of tests, to me, seems a more sensible approach than the so called 'windows', which are challenged one way by Wales (tests outside the window) and another way by England (Barbarian matches, etc.).


While I agree with you sentiments how do you propose we make up the significant lost revenue?

The lost revenue by playing 1 or 2 fewer games should not be so huge that it can't be managed, especially (for the WRU) as the repayment period for the stadium draws closer.
There will be another stadium one day to build a deposit for, or closing Glanmor's gap. Or something else.

Rumour has it we are about to get a more generous settlement from the WRU. We all need that international test revenue.
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Originally posted by aber-fan aber-fan wrote:

Originally posted by scarletnut scarletnut wrote:

Originally posted by aber-fan aber-fan wrote:

Originally posted by ap sior ap sior wrote:

Wales will have played 12 this season.

Most other NH teams will play 11.


Too many.

As I posted earlier, in the 60s and 70s you got 4 or 5 tests per annum, usually - 4 in the 5 nations, plus an extra one in the autumn, some years, if there was a tour. Summer tours by the home nations were rare. So, there was a real sense of occasion every time we went to the Arms Park.

I know those days are gone, and we'll never get the numbers down to that level, because of the money... however, I still think that for the good of the players (and also the regional/club game) there should be an upper limit, which would include even so-called 'unofficial' tests - e.g. England v Barbarians... having a limit on the number of tests, to me, seems a more sensible approach than the so called 'windows', which are challenged one way by Wales (tests outside the window) and another way by England (Barbarian matches, etc.).


While I agree with you sentiments how do you propose we make up the significant lost revenue?


The lost revenue by playing 1 or 2 fewer games should not be so huge that it can't be managed, especially (for the WRU) as the repayment period for the stadium draws closer.
It’s roughly £2M
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Personally, that game was a farce. Treated like a farce by South Africa, was a week after Pro14 final (which more than hal the squad was involved in, didn’t have a chance to celebrate end of season properly in Dublin as they all had a 9hr flight after 3-4hour sleep, travel to meet up with rest of the squad and some involved in the international after that. I’m sorry but in a time where “player welfare” is so big, that match should not have gone ahead. I understand the extra AI but why chuck in an extra summer international as well?
It had nothing to do with SA, it was a sponsorship game to promote rugby in the area. But my opinion, it shouldn’t have gone ahead. Lack of preparation...asking for trouble/injuries in a professional sport.

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Scarlets wing Steff Evans has been told he doesn't need surgery on the knee he injured on Wales' tour of the Americas.

"Steff suffered an injury to his knee following the hyperextension against South Africa," said a Scarlets spokesperson.

"He has seen a specialist and does not require any surgery. It is hoped he will be ready for the start of the coming season."

Great news!!!!

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Great news. Good rest and pre season. Hope it's similar for wyn
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Finally a good news...a good resto Steff
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Originally posted by Wasp Wasp wrote:

Originally posted by aber-fan aber-fan wrote:

Originally posted by scarletnut scarletnut wrote:

Originally posted by aber-fan aber-fan wrote:

Originally posted by ap sior ap sior wrote:

Wales will have played 12 this season.

Most other NH teams will play 11.


Too many.

As I posted earlier, in the 60s and 70s you got 4 or 5 tests per annum, usually - 4 in the 5 nations, plus an extra one in the autumn, some years, if there was a tour. Summer tours by the home nations were rare. So, there was a real sense of occasion every time we went to the Arms Park.

I know those days are gone, and we'll never get the numbers down to that level, because of the money... however, I still think that for the good of the players (and also the regional/club game) there should be an upper limit, which would include even so-called 'unofficial' tests - e.g. England v Barbarians... having a limit on the number of tests, to me, seems a more sensible approach than the so called 'windows', which are challenged one way by Wales (tests outside the window) and another way by England (Barbarian matches, etc.).


While I agree with you sentiments how do you propose we make up the significant lost revenue?

The lost revenue by playing 1 or 2 fewer games should not be so huge that it can't be managed, especially (for the WRU) as the repayment period for the stadium draws closer.
There will be another stadium one day to build a deposit for, or closing Glanmor's gap. Or something else.

Rumour has it we are about to get a more generous settlement from the WRU. We all need that international test revenue.

Indeed. We are a 'comparatively' poor nation with a small population. While it is difficult, we nee dto accont for it. If we had Leinster's budget, we could win the Heiny! The WRU provides much needed funds.

Also rugby players get injured. It happens. Whether it is in training or game time. Not sure why we complain about Gatland so much. Wales' best ever coach probably.
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Diolch byth! Great news.
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Pheww, great news!
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Well that says it all about rumours.
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Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

Well that says it all about rumours.

What rumour would that be?

Steff was injured - fact.

It looked bad, and many said so. That was wrong, but a mistaken judgement is different to a rumour. No-one said (as far as I know) that such-and-such a member of the Wales medical team had told them that Steff would be out for 6 months. THAT would have been a rumour!

We are all delighted that it's less serious than it looked. 

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Originally posted by Sandman Sandman wrote:

Heard earlier, from a guy who spoke with Steff’s mother, that Steff has only bruised his knee. Painful as all hell, but should be alright relatively soon. It’s all second hand information, but if true it’s fantastic news.
Sometimes 2nd and 3rd hand information turns out to be correct. Not often mind you though.
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