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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote reesytheexile Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 October 2020 at 4:31pm
And with the double whammy of non players not being released back to clubs as they usually are, due to Covid bubble restrictions- at least the same rules will apply to all clubs though 

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Pivac certainly has his favourites. Cubby and him were good pals and he did get the best out of him. 
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For me thats another example of Pivac's flaky selection. Cubby needs games before he is ready for International rugby. Basham has squad experience & is match fit. 
I wouldn't say its a pivac thing. It was a gatland thing as well. Some players make the squad with no game time... Others aren't selected due to lack of game time. Common theme in Wales. 
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Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Gutted for Josh. Ken's omission is not the end of the world as it will give him some R&R while he recovers & gives Ryan Elias the chance to really step up for Wales. It will also allow Parry some much needed time to prove he is International quality. 

Agree fully. It's ELIAS TIME. This is his big chance.
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Originally posted by PE SA PE SA wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

For me thats another example of Pivac's flaky selection. Cubby needs games before he is ready for International rugby. Basham has squad experience & is match fit. 
I wouldn't say its a pivac thing. It was a gatland thing as well. Some players make the squad with no game time... Others aren't selected due to lack of game time. Common theme in Wales. 
Fact of the matter is every coach has their favourites. It’s nothing new 
I still wake up late at night and think of what might have been when tim stimpson hit that jammy penalty1
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote GPR - Rochester Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 October 2020 at 8:24am
Originally posted by scarletnut scarletnut wrote:

Originally posted by PE SA PE SA wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

For me thats another example of Pivac's flaky selection. Cubby needs games before he is ready for International rugby. Basham has squad experience & is match fit. 
I wouldn't say its a pivac thing. It was a gatland thing as well. Some players make the squad with no game time... Others aren't selected due to lack of game time. Common theme in Wales. 
Fact of the matter is every coach has their favourites. It’s nothing new 

I have no problem with coaches having their opinions on players but you have to compare two players who are fit with some gametime. Cubby has been out since the World Cup with  a hip issue followed by calf problems. He has been eased back in by the Scarlets - quite rightly. Is he ready for a full on International game? Ok if Cubby is released for the not so important France game and told to get a good 60 minutes under his belt away to Benetton along with Liam then I will understand otherwise why risk it?  Its not as if players cannot be called up during the campaign which is being played in Europe. 
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Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Originally posted by scarletnut scarletnut wrote:

Originally posted by PE SA PE SA wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

For me thats another example of Pivac's flaky selection. Cubby needs games before he is ready for International rugby. Basham has squad experience & is match fit. 
I wouldn't say its a pivac thing. It was a gatland thing as well. Some players make the squad with no game time... Others aren't selected due to lack of game time. Common theme in Wales. 
Fact of the matter is every coach has their favourites. It’s nothing new 

I have no problem with coaches having their opinions on players but you have to compare two players who are fit with some gametime. Cubby has been out since the World Cup with  a hip issue followed by calf problems. He has been eased back in by the Scarlets - quite rightly. Is he ready for a full on International game? Ok if Cubby is released for the not so important France game and told to get a good 60 minutes under his belt away to Benetton along with Liam then I will understand otherwise why risk it?  Its not as if players cannot be called up during the campaign which is being played in Europe. 

Can they be released given the fact they are in bubbles?
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Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Originally posted by scarletnut scarletnut wrote:

Originally posted by PE SA PE SA wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

For me thats another example of Pivac's flaky selection. Cubby needs games before he is ready for International rugby. Basham has squad experience & is match fit. 
I wouldn't say its a pivac thing. It was a gatland thing as well. Some players make the squad with no game time... Others aren't selected due to lack of game time. Common theme in Wales. 
Fact of the matter is every coach has their favourites. It’s nothing new 

I have no problem with coaches having their opinions on players but you have to compare two players who are fit with some gametime. Cubby has been out since the World Cup with  a hip issue followed by calf problems. He has been eased back in by the Scarlets - quite rightly. Is he ready for a full on International game? Ok if Cubby is released for the not so important France game and told to get a good 60 minutes under his belt away to Benetton along with Liam then I will understand otherwise why risk it?  Its not as if players cannot be called up during the campaign which is being played in Europe. 

Can they be released given the fact they are in bubbles?

That is an interesting point. I can't see much difference going from one bubble at PYS where testing is done regularly to the Llantrisant bubble where again testing will be done regularly. No difference really from the match day experience where two heavily tested bubbles meet. 
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I doubt they will be released, possibly if we had a home game
 
But to travel to Italy, play a game and then travel home and then travel back to camp
 
I just can't see the wru taking any risks with any players until these games are done tbh
 
At least Treviso are losing a load of players as well
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When is Sams hearing? This game will be one less of his ban hopefully. 
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4 week ban for Sam
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Originally posted by thommo thommo wrote:

When is Sams hearing? This game will be one less of his ban hopefully. 
He’s been banned for 4 weeks. 

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They give a 4 week ban. I personally don’t think that is fair. No intent and size difference between both players. Red should have been sufficient. 


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They give a 4 week ban. I personally don’t think that is fair. No intent and size difference between both players. Red should have been sufficient. 



Surely that opens up the case for scrum halves to be decapitated every game!!!! It is incumbent on the tackler to tackle a player within the rules. 4 weeks, considering it is 2nd red card this year is reasonable. 
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Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

I doubt they will be released, possibly if we had a home game
 
But to travel to Italy, play a game and then travel home and then travel back to camp
 
I just can't see the wru taking any risks with any players until these games are done tbh
 
At least Treviso are losing a load of players as well

Can't see the difference - the bubbles have been set up to cater for such things. Chartered flights, no passport control, play the game come home. Exactly the same risks as face the Welsh team when they play in Paris. 
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Originally posted by Captain Captain wrote:

They give a 4 week ban. I personally don’t think that is fair. No intent and size difference between both players. Red should have been sufficient. 



They gave a 6 week ban reduced to 4. His red card against Munster meant he couldn't receive full mitigation. 
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