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I was beginning to wonder if Llanelli was now a Tax Haven.
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Who are Tax and Hagan????? 
Rishi Sunak is starting his retraining as rugby coach but can’t quite let go of his current job.
Any offence taken on board is only a literate/cy consequence. Every attempt at humour is just that. No personal insult intended. Standards lowered for trolls.
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So if Benetton are getting players back, will we?
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Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

So if Benetton are getting players back, will we?

I am sure that getting guys back is being constantly discussed between Pivac and Delaney. I was hoping that we would see Liam, Patchell & Cubby for urgently needed minutes this weekend. Patchell is now a non starter as Sheedy is still with Bristol as they may be stepping in to replace Wasps. Hopefully we could see the other two. 
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Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

So if Benetton are getting players back, will we?
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I still wake up late at night and think of what might have been when tim stimpson hit that jammy penalty1
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Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

So if Benetton are getting players back, will we?

I am sure that getting guys back is being constantly discussed between Pivac and Delaney. I was hoping that we would see Liam, Patchell & Cubby for urgently needed minutes this weekend. Patchell is now a non starter as Sheedy is still with Bristol as they may be stepping in to replace Wasps. Hopefully we could see the other two. 
Patchell and Liam will likely get game time against France. I wouldn’t expect to see any of the Wales squad players until well into 2021
I still wake up late at night and think of what might have been when tim stimpson hit that jammy penalty1
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Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

So if Benetton are getting players back, will we?

I am sure that getting guys back is being constantly discussed between Pivac and Delaney. I was hoping that we would see Liam, Patchell & Cubby for urgently needed minutes this weekend. Patchell is now a non starter as Sheedy is still with Bristol as they may be stepping in to replace Wasps. Hopefully we could see the other two. 
Patchell and Liam will likely get game time against France. I wouldn’t expect to see any of the Wales squad players until well into 2021

By which time our season will more than likely be over, European competition too.
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Originally posted by scarletnut scarletnut wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

So if Benetton are getting players back, will we?

I am sure that getting guys back is being constantly discussed between Pivac and Delaney. I was hoping that we would see Liam, Patchell & Cubby for urgently needed minutes this weekend. Patchell is now a non starter as Sheedy is still with Bristol as they may be stepping in to replace Wasps. Hopefully we could see the other two. 
Patchell and Liam will likely get game time against France. I wouldn’t expect to see any of the Wales squad players until well into 2021

Surely that can't be correct Stef. What about local derbies & Europe? I agree as above about Patchell. Liam is a surprise as how on earth he is deemed fit to play France without any rugby for months is frankly nonsense.
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Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Originally posted by scarletnut scarletnut wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

So if Benetton are getting players back, will we?

I am sure that getting guys back is being constantly discussed between Pivac and Delaney. I was hoping that we would see Liam, Patchell & Cubby for urgently needed minutes this weekend. Patchell is now a non starter as Sheedy is still with Bristol as they may be stepping in to replace Wasps. Hopefully we could see the other two. 
Patchell and Liam will likely get game time against France. I wouldn’t expect to see any of the Wales squad players until well into 2021

Surely that can't be correct Stef. What about local derbies & Europe? I agree as above about Patchell. Liam is a surprise as how on earth he is deemed fit to play France without any rugby for months is frankly nonsense.
That’s what is being suggested on the grapevine. The France game is a warm-up it’s perfect for Liam if he’s fit 
I still wake up late at night and think of what might have been when tim stimpson hit that jammy penalty1
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It should not be a surprise that we will be without the internationals until after the 6N.ots been talked about for a fair few weeks. In a normal season we would have player release if a player wasn't involved etc. We would also have them after the autumn internationals.but these are not normal times. The players will be in camp in their bubble building some team cohesion I suppose ahead of the 6N. With Europe starting is it the same weekend or the week after the last international, that should be obvious enough that we are without them for that period. We MIGHT have them for Christmas derbies, but I'm not holding my breath. Its a season without nearly 20 players. First teamers. If we have them before the end of the 6N I will look at it as a massive bonus. Its a season that is going to be huge for the likes of Tom Rogers, Ryan Conbeer, Sam Costellow, Jac Morgan, Morgan Rees etc. 
Its certainly going to be an interesting season for us. Hopefully a few of the youngsters that will have an opportunity will take it to give further selection headaches. 
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Well not having them back for Europe/derbies etc is news to me. If that is mirrored throughout the Celtic nations then we can forget any of our teams competing in Europe as I cannot see the English premiership or the top 14 standing for being without their International players for what is effectively mid October 2020 to end of March 2021 - 5 months plus.
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Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Well not having them back for Europe/derbies etc is news to me. If that is mirrored throughout the Celtic nations then we can forget any of our teams competing in Europe as I cannot see the English premiership or the top 14 standing for being without their International players for what is effectively mid October 2020 to end of March 2021 - 5 months plus.
It’s the same for the English and French sides. Nobody is getting precious about it this season. 
I still wake up late at night and think of what might have been when tim stimpson hit that jammy penalty1
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Originally posted by scarletnut scarletnut wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Well not having them back for Europe/derbies etc is news to me. If that is mirrored throughout the Celtic nations then we can forget any of our teams competing in Europe as I cannot see the English premiership or the top 14 standing for being without their International players for what is effectively mid October 2020 to end of March 2021 - 5 months plus.
It’s the same for the English and French sides. Nobody is getting precious about it this season. 

Well the French sides got pretty precious about the Autumn campaign. They only reached a last minute deal to safeguard the Wales game. Two squads of 31 players playing 3 games maximum suggest to me that they are taking their top 14 competition seriously. Sponsors may have something to say about what is effectively downgrading the European pool stages to a 2nd 15 competition also. 
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Originally posted by scarletnut scarletnut wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Well not having them back for Europe/derbies etc is news to me. If that is mirrored throughout the Celtic nations then we can forget any of our teams competing in Europe as I cannot see the English premiership or the top 14 standing for being without their International players for what is effectively mid October 2020 to end of March 2021 - 5 months plus.
It’s the same for the English and French sides. Nobody is getting precious about it this season. 

I guess we will see in December
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Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Originally posted by scarletnut scarletnut wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Well not having them back for Europe/derbies etc is news to me. If that is mirrored throughout the Celtic nations then we can forget any of our teams competing in Europe as I cannot see the English premiership or the top 14 standing for being without their International players for what is effectively mid October 2020 to end of March 2021 - 5 months plus.
It’s the same for the English and French sides. Nobody is getting precious about it this season. 

Well the French sides got pretty precious about the Autumn campaign. They only reached a last minute deal to safeguard the Wales game. Two squads of 31 players playing 3 games maximum suggest to me that they are taking their top 14 competition seriously. Sponsors may have something to say about what is effectively downgrading the European pool stages to a 2nd 15 competition also. 
This season is all about survival 
I still wake up late at night and think of what might have been when tim stimpson hit that jammy penalty1
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Originally posted by scarletnut scarletnut wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Well not having them back for Europe/derbies etc is news to me. If that is mirrored throughout the Celtic nations then we can forget any of our teams competing in Europe as I cannot see the English premiership or the top 14 standing for being without their International players for what is effectively mid October 2020 to end of March 2021 - 5 months plus.
It’s the same for the English and French sides. Nobody is getting precious about it this season. 


It's the same in some respects but for pro14 teams like us, Leinster, Munster, Treviso, Edinburgh etc. we're significantly disadvantaged because of the volume of players we've got in the national squads.
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