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Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Yes Irabaren & Russell cost Racing the game. Think Russell played himself out of Lions contention with that performance. It is all well & good a 10 being capable of magical moments but there is a fine line between expansive and downright dull. I agree with you EO that they would probably have won if Machenaud had started. 

Exeter's efficiency with the pick and go is not a thing of beauty in my eyes but boy I wouldn't mind if we could be half that efficient at times. One very interesting thing for me was the ability of the Racing front row effecting turnovers - not something our boys seem too good at. They are, after all, the perfect shape to get over the ball & present a strong position. Wyn Jones is probably our best exponent.
The Sunday Times journalists were putting nails into the coffin of Finn Russell’s Lions chances by implication in the two articles about the match.

Incredulously, no mention of Iribaren in there. It obviously didn’t suit the narrative.

Only in the player ratings did he feature with 3 out of 10 being lucky not to have been substituted earlier than half time.
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Originally posted by Jones2004 Jones2004 wrote:

Originally posted by dr_martinov dr_martinov wrote:

Well done to exeter. Racing  will be kicking themselves though. Missed opportunities and mistakes.
Yes, not opting for the drop goal when they were only five metres out does seem pretty arrogant to me. Not going for the posts from the Francis DKO also says a lot about the confidence they had in their kicker.
If they wanted to go for the 7 points with a driving lineout maul as opposed to the 3 points, I found it slightly odd they didn't opt for the scrum 5m out and Exeter down a tight head. Exeter would have had to bring on a replacement TH at the expense of another player - a back coming off would have left RAcing with a 1-man advantage in the backs for the last 10 minutes while a back rower sacrificed would have left the 8-man Racing pack scrummaging against a 7-man Exeter pack.

Some odd calls were made by Racing during the last 10 minutes.

Also thought Slade was lucky not to cop 10 minutes in the bin for his high tackle from behind which caught the Racing player (Imhoff?) square on the chops.

As the SHC jackle goes...  better not go too in-depth on how Owens found it to be a legal jackle!!
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I thought SHC could've been called for in the side. Slade made contact with shoulder first to prevent a yellow - very close. Racing's mistakes were terrible, often from halfback, yet they really should have won in the last ten but were lacking in the last six inches. I also didn't see much passion from them, appealing ref's decisions or frustration at the end. No one really stepped up and said "we are winning this one boys". 

Exeter: limited, but effective. Low error count good fitness and every player played their part and wanted the win. 

Entertaining final all things considered. Racing really can score from anywhere (or concede from anywhere). Zebo had a hell of a game. 
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Originally posted by haydn_davies haydn_davies wrote:

Originally posted by Jones2004 Jones2004 wrote:

Originally posted by dr_martinov dr_martinov wrote:

Well done to exeter. Racing  will be kicking themselves though. Missed opportunities and mistakes.
Yes, not opting for the drop goal when they were only five metres out does seem pretty arrogant to me. Not going for the posts from the Francis DKO also says a lot about the confidence they had in their kicker.
If they wanted to go for the 7 points with a driving lineout maul as opposed to the 3 points, I found it slightly odd they didn't opt for the scrum 5m out and Exeter down a tight head. Exeter would have had to bring on a replacement TH at the expense of another player - a back coming off would have left RAcing with a 1-man advantage in the backs for the last 10 minutes while a back rower sacrificed would have left the 8-man Racing pack scrummaging against a 7-man Exeter pack.

Some odd calls were made by Racing during the last 10 minutes.

Also thought Slade was lucky not to cop 10 minutes in the bin for his high tackle from behind which caught the Racing player (Imhoff?) square on the chops.

As the SHC jackle goes...  better not go too in-depth on how Owens found it to be a legal jackle!!
Chat’s try from the maul should probably have been disallowed for truck and trailer, too.

As Doc says, they lacked the necessary mentality to win.
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Chat's try was more like American Football with a good block enabling the score.!
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Congratulations to Exeter And Bristol for winning their trophies 
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Nigel said today On SM that SHC was a legal challenge as they were on the try line and you can approach on the side in such circumstances- just saying 🤔
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Ah the offside line was the goalline. Yes, that makes sense. Have to see it again for SHC's exact position but I understand now.
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Imagine being a bona fide Exeter fan over the last 15 years.

What a journey. Hats off.
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Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:

Nigel said today On SM that SHC was a legal challenge as they were on the try line and you can approach on the side in such circumstances- just saying 🤔
His foot was on/over the line though so still offside no?
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Originally posted by minded minded wrote:

Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:

Nigel said today On SM that SHC was a legal challenge as they were on the try line and you can approach on the side in such circumstances- just saying 🤔
His foot was on/over the line though so still offside no?
It’s certainly a borderline decision so not a shocker either way. Personally believe that all Racing players go straight off feet so therefore is still a tackle nor a ruck and then SHC just about comes in from the back. However could easily understand how some would think that it is in from the side as it’s certainly a 50-50 decision.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dr_martinov Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 October 2020 at 9:30am
Thinking more about it, that was an excellent game for the neutral and far better than many defence-dominated cagey affairs which tend to dominate top level rugby. Different day (different halfbacks) could have been 60-10 to Racing. Sure, Exeter are limited but they were still attacking and aimed to score tries so fair play to them. Russell's high risk stuff gave some awesome moments and Zebo was dynamite plus most of the Racing backs always looked on the verge of a break. Having that contrast of two very different attacking styles generated a really good watch. Lots of interesting mini-battles all over the pitch: lineout (Racing did steal a lot from Exeter's most potent weapon), scrum, breakdown as ever, contrasting halfback styles, a set of electric (and massive) outer backs versus a decent defensive group plus then the coaching and decision making - think we know Exeter won that part. Shame Racing didn't seem completely up for it, they were very French but maybe this is part of the fun as well? I still am not sure the huge numbers of substitutions is the right thing for the game but overall I really enjoyed it.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote SA14 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 October 2020 at 11:18am
Originally posted by Jones2004 Jones2004 wrote:

Originally posted by minded minded wrote:

Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:

Nigel said today On SM that SHC was a legal challenge as they were on the try line and you can approach on the side in such circumstances- just saying 🤔
His foot was on/over the line though so still offside no?
It’s certainly a borderline decision so not a shocker either way. Personally believe that all Racing players go straight off feet so therefore is still a tackle nor a ruck and then SHC just about comes in from the back. However could easily understand how some would think that it is in from the side as it’s certainly a 50-50 decision.

It’s just some people just love having a moan over Nigel Owens. 
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Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

Originally posted by Jones2004 Jones2004 wrote:

Originally posted by minded minded wrote:

Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:

Nigel said today On SM that SHC was a legal challenge as they were on the try line and you can approach on the side in such circumstances- just saying 🤔
His foot was on/over the line though so still offside no?
It’s certainly a borderline decision so not a shocker either way. Personally believe that all Racing players go straight off feet so therefore is still a tackle nor a ruck and then SHC just about comes in from the back. However could easily understand how some would think that it is in from the side as it’s certainly a 50-50 decision.

It’s just some people just love having a moan over Nigel Owens. 
 

Some ( including me now and then!) just ask for the impossible ie perfection  . All pro refs are observed  by ARs and TMO during a game and there are debrief sessions back at the office on the Monday etc ..  with further analysis. We had a Crys16 meet the refs night a few years back and it was very interesting and informative. I wish all supporters could have something like this to educate and inform ( compulsory would help 😂)
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All I can say about Nige's matches is that they usually end up being entertaining. Being a professional referee in such high profile games is no easy task and we should celebrate his achievements. He is after all one of us. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Wil Chips Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 October 2020 at 8:33am
I've always been puzzled at the level of ridicule, and sometimes vitriol, that's aimed at Nigel Owens.

He's one of a very small/elite group of Welsh citizens who has reached the very top of their profession.

The recurring narrative is actually to forensically monitor his performance to find errors.
Not much of a life that tbh. He is not immune to making mistakes.

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